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| Erock509 |
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:02 am
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Acer X223Wbd 22" Widescreen LCD Monitor. I'm looking for a decent price monitor for my 4 channel dvr system and found this one. Not to sure if it would work and if not what do I need to look for?
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| Erock509 |
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 2:30 pm
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| scorpion |
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:55 pm
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We do not know what DVR you are using, and what output for video you are using.
Assuming that you are just using a regular video output from the DVR then you will need a BNC to RCA adapter and then you can use a regular video cable from your hometheater collection and plug this in to your LCD TV. You will be plugging it in to the yellow connector (composite).
If you are using a VGA output from the DVR then you hook it up to the VGA input of you LCD. Note that some DVRs may require you to buy an adapter to use the VGA output. Check your DVRs owner manual.
Other than that I cannot say as I am not familiar with you LCD that you listed.
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| Erock509 |
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Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 3:57 am
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The dvr is a Digital Watchdog Max stand alone 250g. The monitors can be hooked up through video or vga. The reason I was asking was because the LCD monitor I listed is used for computers. I wasnt sure if cctv needed a specific type of monitor or you can just use anything with the corresponding video hookup.
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Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 7:46 am
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| bobby1471 |
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Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 5:07 pm
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If the DVR supports VGA then you have no problems should be as simple as plugging in the back just like a computer.
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| Okinawamike |
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Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 5:44 pm
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As Bobby1471 said, VGA connection should give you a DVR output. But the monitor you want to use does not have any other connections besides the VGA/DVI. I have found that computer monitors using the VGA only are not the best for a detailed picture.
The TVL is what you want to go for. More the better. If you look at a LCD monitor and then look at a made for CCTV monitor with a BNC inout, it's a world of differance. The LCD will work and is cheaper.
Example I just picked this up on EBay for $300: Designed for the CCTV security marketplace, the Bosch MON201CL monitor includes two looping composite video inputs, two looping audio inputs, and one looping Y/C input. Additionally, this model includes an analog VGA input to accommodate the increasing use of ‘PCs’ and digital video devices in security applications. The MON201CL has been tested for compatibility of operation with analog output
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| Erock509 |
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 2:33 am
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| Okinawamike wrote: |
As Bobby1471 said, VGA connection should give you a DVR output. But the monitor you want to use does not have any other connections besides the VGA/DVI. I have found that computer monitors using the VGA only are not the best for a detailed picture.
The TVL is what you want to go for. More the better. If you look at a LCD monitor and then look at a made for CCTV monitor with a BNC inout, it's a world of differance. The LCD will work and is cheaper.
Example I just picked this up on EBay for $300: Designed for the CCTV security marketplace, the Bosch MON201CL monitor includes two looping composite video inputs, two looping audio inputs, and one looping Y/C input. Additionally, this model includes an analog VGA input to accommodate the increasing use of ‘PCs’ and digital video devices in security applications. The MON201CL has been tested for compatibility of operation with analog output |
Thanks for the info. i looked all over for that monitor and found none for under approx $1200, thats about 1k out of my price range  . I guess I'll keep looking.
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| vin2install |
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 12:54 pm
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The VGA monitor you have should be fine. The only problem is that the pictures might look stretched due to the monitor being widescreen
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| Lolo Wolf |
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I picked up a few of those Acers - (Newegg has them on sale jus now excellent price with free ship) I found that if you use the Acer e-color Management (bult in with the monitor control) and use the Movie Mode it helps with any ghosting. Been lucky with the ones I got no dead pixels and overall a fine Monitor. A lot of real estate for split screens and quad setups. Im using the DVI-outs - of puter-DVRs - no issues, havent tried with a stand alone DVR but I am satisfied with the PIC quality compared to others Ive used.... regards
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| Erock509 |
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 9:37 pm
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| Lolo Wolf wrote: |
| I picked up a few of those Acers - (Newegg has them on sale jus now excellent price with free ship) I found that if you use the Acer e-color Management (bult in with the monitor control) and use the Movie Mode it helps with any ghosting. Been lucky with the ones I got no dead pixels and overall a fine Monitor. A lot of real estate for split screens and quad setups. Im using the DVI-outs - of puter-DVRs - no issues, havent tried with a stand alone DVR but I am satisfied with the PIC quality compared to others Ive used.... regards |
Hey thnx, yeah newegg has them for 149.00 now with free shipping. Cant beat that!
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Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 2:51 am
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| vin2install wrote: |
| The VGA monitor you have should be fine. The only problem is that the pictures might look stretched due to the monitor being widescreen |
That would be my main concern.... unless the DVR can support widescreen resolutions (1440x900, 1680x1050, etc), I'd stick with standard 4:3 aspect LCDs.
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| 3RDIGLBL |
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I just got a 4:3 ACER monitor for a DVR I picked up. Plugged in the cameras and picture was horrible....thought I had bad cameras or a crappy DVR....I then took the same DVR and plugged in my desktop CRT monitor and picture was great no fuzzyness or pixelation at all.
My whole thing with LCD's is if the output to the LCD is not the native LCD resolution then the picture will be horrible. Works that way on laptops. CRTs can adjust for this so is the reason why the CRT picture was good.
The output on my DVR is 640x480 and the native resolution on the Acer I believe is 1280x1024. Would be great if I could change the DVR output to match but since it is a standalone I am stuck with the resolution provided. Since the prices for these LCD's are cheaper than a Color CRT and they consume much less power I just tell my customers that this picture is normal and if they plan to sit there and watch the video regularly that they may want to go with a CRT. No one has taken a CRT yet...
Anyone have any successful experience here. From what I been reading this is what I understand the differences to be.
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| 3RDIGLBL wrote: |
I just got a 4:3 ACER monitor for a DVR I picked up. Plugged in the cameras and picture was horrible....thought I had bad cameras or a crappy DVR....I then took the same DVR and plugged in my desktop CRT monitor and picture was great no fuzzyness or pixelation at all.
My whole thing with LCD's is if the output to the LCD is not the native LCD resolution then the picture will be horrible. Works that way on laptops. CRTs can adjust for this so is the reason why the CRT picture was good. |
CRTs don't really "adjust" for different resolutions... they just display pixels differently than LCDs (and plasmas and DLPs and LCD-based projectors, for that matter). With LCDs, there are very sharply-defined edges between pixels, and each "hard" pixel can display the full range of color in itself. With CRTs, each "display pixel" is made of three discrete "hard pixels", one each for red, green, and blue. If an image covers more than one pixel, the color components tend to blend together, rather than being separated by hard edges.
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| The output on my DVR is 640x480 and the native resolution on the Acer I believe is 1280x1024. Would be great if I could change the DVR output to match but since it is a standalone I am stuck with the resolution provided. |
Are you sure? I've set up some VERY CHEAP, VERY CRAPPY off-shore standalones, that had selectable VGA resolutions (granted, limited to 640x480, 800x600, and 1024x768).
Another thing I've found with some cheap standalones is their "VGA output" isn't really VGA... their internals are outputting a composite signal at MAYBE 420TVL, but they have an internal card that converts THAT to VGA... and does a very poor job of upscaling it. Their internal software isn't actually creating a VGA/XGA/etc.-resolution image direct to the VGA port.
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| 3RDIGLBL |
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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:34 pm
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| Soundy wrote: |
| Are you sure? I've set up some VERY CHEAP, VERY CRAPPY off-shore standalones, that had selectable VGA resolutions (granted, limited to 640x480, 800x600, and 1024x768). |
Ya. I called the supplier where i get them and they stated there is no adjustment. If I could get it up to 1024x768 it would be a great improvement. Heck I've installed about 4 different kinds of standalones and none have had selectable VGA resolutions. Interesting to know that there are some out there. It would make the LCD monitors more tolerable.
Was at a customer today and brought along my Acer to hook up to their DVR (they didn't want a monitor) and I had to explain that the quality was crappy due to the monitor. I MEAN IT REALLY LOOKS AWEFUL.
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