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Suggestion for mini indoor flush mount PTZ
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| alpine0000 |
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Posts: 74
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Northern Virginia, USA
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Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 6:22 am
Post subject: Suggestion for mini indoor flush mount PTZ
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Hey all!
I'm shopping for a PTZ camera for my home. It'll be used indoors, in my living room. (i'll be able to move it around to see my front door, back door, living room, dining room, and part of the kitchen, all from one PTZ!) My cameras now arent complete garbage, but they arent really that great either. I'd consider them lower-end, and I'm slowly trying to replace them with more mid-level stuff that is respectable.
However, I dont want a large intrusive one. I want one on the smaller side, and I'll be flush mounting it in the ceiling, if possible.
Please make some suggestions based on my criteria:
*budget ~$1000 (but am willing to go a bit higher if needed to get what i want, but couldnt see myself paying more than 1400-1500 at the very most for one cam  and thats at the absolute top end)
*i would like one that has good night capability, as i often login and monitor my home from the other side of the world, and all the lights are usually out in my house, and its usually night time.
*good resolution (500 lines of res or more)
*reliable
*size more on the compact side than large side
*be able to return to a certain position after a certain amount of time of inactivity (aiming at the back door), and also maybe a few tour modes.
My current equipment is in my sig line.
I was looking into the ICRealtime ICR100X Day & Night Mini PTZ. Obviously, ICRealtime DVRs are very loved on this forum, but not sure if the cameras were in the same boat. Has anybody used this camera? Thoughts on it? Should i steer clear because its 1/4" instead of 1/3" ccd? It looks like it goes for ~$1000 online. Any other suggestions i should consider? Would a full size PTZ give me any better of a picture than a mini PTZ (assuming all other variables are the same)? I know Bosch, Panasonic, and Pelco make some nice stuff, too. I am also looking into the panasonic WV-CS574 and pelco spectra III SD53TC, but i have no experience with any of these cameras
I'd love to hear your thoughts! 
Happy new year!
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--G4-8RTA-D1 DVR w/ 500g HDD
--(3) G4-400HPT Infrared Color Camera
--G4-9CH-10AMP power supply
--IntelliPix IPX-520-DN DPS WDR Day/Night Camera w/ 2.8-12mm Manual Iris Varifocal Lens
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| ilzu |
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Joined: 17 Nov 2006
Location: UB, Mongolia
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Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 10:45 am
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I'd recommend you to have a look at Pelco Spectra Mini though its resolution is 470 TVL in NTSC.
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| ispy4u2 |
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Posts: 27
Joined: 29 Dec 2008
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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:41 pm
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As a dealer of IC Reatltime products, we are pleased with the 100X PTZ.
Once in a while, depending on the frequency and duration of AUTO TOUR, specifically if you use for more than 100+ hours non stop, the camera might just stop at it's last pre-set during the AUTO TOUR until you resend the AUTO TOUR command, which is preset 71!
When determining which PTZ (indoor/outdoor) will best suit your requirements, look at the optics of the camera first, before thinking a 22X will work better vs the 10 X optical.
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| coolie11 |
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Location: New York
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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 11:17 pm
Post subject: 6 inches in diameter and 5.5 inches in height
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SPECIFICATIONS
PT 950
Camera CCD 1/4” Interline Transfer CCD
Max. Pixels 811(H) x 508(V) 410K
Effective Pixels 768(H) x 494(V) 380K
Horizontal Resolution 500 TV Line(Color)
570 TV Line(B/W)
S/N Ratio 50 dB (AGC Off)
Zoom x10 Optical Zoom
x10 Digital Zoom
Focal Length F1.8, f=3.8~38mm
Min. Illumination 0.7 Lux (Color) / 0.02 Lux (B/W), 50 IRE
Day & Night Auto / Day / Night (ICR)
Focus Auto / Manual / SemiAuto
Iris Auto / Manual
Shutter Speed x128 ~ 1/120,00 sec.
AGC Normal / High / Off
White Balance Auto / Manual (Red, Blue, Gain Adjustable)
BLC Low / Middle / High / Off
Flickerless Selectable
SSNR Low / Middle / High / Off
Pan / Tilt Range Pan : 360° (Endless)
Tilt : 180°(Auto-Flip), 95° (Normal)
Pan / Tilt Speed Preset : 360°/sec
Manual : 0.05 ~ 360°/sec (proportional to zoom)
Swing : 1~180°/sec
Preset 127 Preset (Label, Camera Image Setting)
Pattern 4 Pattern, 1200 commands (about 5 minute) / Pattern
Swing 8 Swing
Group 8 Group (20 action entities per Group)
Other Functions Auto Flip, Auto Parking, Power Up Action etc.
General Communication RS-485
Protocol Pelco-D, Pelco-P selectable
Privacy Zone 4 Zone
Alarm Input 4 Input
OSD Menu / PTZ information etc
Rated Power DC Type : AC 24V
Dimension Dome : Ø4.53 in
Housing : Ø5.8 in x 5.55(H) in
Weight Approx. 2.2 lbs
Operating Temp. 32°F ~ 104°F(0°C~40°C)
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| alpine0000 |
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Posts: 74
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Northern Virginia, USA
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Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:09 am
Post subject: Re: 6 inches in diameter and 5.5 inches in height
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| ispy4u2 wrote: |
As a dealer of IC Reatltime products, we are pleased with the 100X PTZ.
Once in a while, depending on the frequency and duration of AUTO TOUR, specifically if you use for more than 100+ hours non stop, the camera might just stop at it's last pre-set during the AUTO TOUR until you resend the AUTO TOUR command, which is preset 71!
When determining which PTZ (indoor/outdoor) will best suit your requirements, look at the optics of the camera first, before thinking a 22X will work better vs the 10 X optical. |
Great to know, and thank you for posting! So, would you still recommend this product? Is there anything else youd recommend me taking a look at?
I've heard of Telpix, but haven't studied up on them. Are they a respectable company overall for cameras?
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Also, should I be looking more at 1/3" ccd, as opposed to 1/4" ccd? I am willing to go with a slightly larger PTZ dome with a 1/3" ccd if it means a much improved picture quality. but if its something that i'll barely notice, then a smaller dome with 1/4" ccd would be ok.
Additionally, now that I am slowly replacing cameras and adding PTZ's, i know that over the next year I'll spend a few thousand dollars doing this, and I keep wondering if id be better off spending the few thousand dollars on IP cams, or if i should just stick with analogue cams and my current dvr... tough decision! 
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--G4-8RTA-D1 DVR w/ 500g HDD
--(3) G4-400HPT Infrared Color Camera
--G4-9CH-10AMP power supply
--IntelliPix IPX-520-DN DPS WDR Day/Night Camera w/ 2.8-12mm Manual Iris Varifocal Lens
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| coolie11 |
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Posts: 229
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Location: New York
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Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:58 am
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Well I've been using them for a few years now without any major issues.
I've also had my eye's open for small PTZ's.
Compared to the prices out there I think it's worth using Telpix,
they also have a 470TVL 1/3" Color Sony Super HAD CCD here http://telpix.com/camera/speed/901/
just keep in mind these are indoor.
If you can afford it, I would recommend upgrading to IP Megapixel Cameras,
nothing less than 5MP, you'll be blown away with the difference in the quality.
This one here http://www.avigilon.com/products/cameras-video/#dome
is also available with IR, something I've been waiting to see in IP Camera's. Unfortunately it's to rich for my pocket.
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| scorpion |
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Location: Melbourne Florida
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Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:22 am
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