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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 6:40 pm
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| And today confirmed 9 more systems ( 4 4 channel systems and 3 8 and 1 16) |
Um.....4+3+1=8 
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 6:54 pm
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typo it was 8 not 9
but hey the day is not completely over
just kidding. My wife says it is 
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:43 pm
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Okay, someone asked some questions, others responded, thats all.
... since you asked .. yes a Real Time Geo System will sell for less and can be used by anyone, for example I have a system in a night club here, it was previously a Kalatel Stand Alone System which he had for 5 odd years, upgraded to get higher evidence sharing and Real Time Video on all Cameras.
The manager has never used a PC and still does not, he was given an IR Remote to control only the live video. It is recording 640x480 30fps per camera, right now doing 7 days as it is Spring break and its packed every night - extra motion and high quality color cameras in certain places. He has extra removable HDD slots for additional Hard Drives for further storage. It is connected to a 21" Color CCTV Monitor, as well as an LCD - the CCTV Monitor is for the extra high quality. The monitor has Inputs A, B & C - A is the Output from the DVRCard's DSP output. The SVideo on the Video card goes to Input C on the monitor for high quality playback in Full Screen. It is churning away without any issues ... ofcourse i wouldnt trust that kind of app with lower end DVR PC Cards/Software though.
But i dont think this thread is the place for a PC DVR Review ... 
I myself have posted many kalatel Clips over the years on here, but since last year have been phasing them out to replace with the Geo System for many reasons generally pertaining to my locale. Lets face it, brands like GE (was Kalatel) arent just talk, they are proven for many years now, way before I got into this industry. If you want to know how picky I am, I still dont trust the Bosche yet .. it's still new to the business in my book.
But like our american friend said, whats important is are your clients happy .. thats the main thing .. and yeah gotta make some money while your at it. Also opinions here at CCTVForum.com are just that, opinions, we have that little blurb in the sticky at the top of each forum.
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jisaacmagee wrote:" So when it is all said and argued and this is still up in the air, who can move the most product? Having the capapbily to be a dealer of a machine wont do you much of good if you cant get people to buy them. So it comes down to Whats The Best Product for what your prospects will say yes at the table for."
I would assume 99.9% of you on this forum have no idea who I'am and bares no importance either. But having two unique and separate company's that sell and install both GEO systems and Mace systems, I can write with 100% accuracy that for a company of 14 employees we are the largest distributor of Mace products in the USA and our sister company moves a lot of self-made GEO systems and various manufactuer embedded DVR's and recently installed five (5) 16 channel IC Realtime DVR's.
The point? Simple, it shouldn't matter the name brand of the product line you represent, it's your confidence in the gear you promote that will WIN you your customers TRUST and their business.
Unless you dealing with Fortune 500 Security Departments, 99.99 % of your clients will have no idea who Pelco, Sensormatic, Bosch, Sanyo, Mace, IC Real Time, etc are. They are relying on your expert advice to recommend the right product(s) to them based upon individual requirements and their budget requirements.
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 10:41 am
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I couldn't agree with you more....well said..
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 10:45 am
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exactly, what it comes down to is not the best specs available. its the best specs available at a price and reliabilty that you are able to sell them.
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Isaac and Spyman, I wish more people had your mentality. I agree, confidence among the products you sell is key. Even from a manufacturer’s point of view, this still stands true.
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 11:10 am
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after installing 5 what is your take on the icrealtime pro dvr's. Especially after you push so much other products. What is your customers take also
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 11:38 am
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I'm tryinig to remain neutral on this forum, having wrote that, I can't give a 100% honest answer until I see the machine running for 6 months solid.
Image quality is good, and some of the functions I like. For example the multiview of several DVR's on one free included program is a nice feature for a embedded system. Most of the PC systems have this functionality and very few embedded systems do, so I like that feature with ICR.
Have to empahsize that it's my sister company who purchased the 5 systems from ICR and they have since purchase more from ICR, as well other MFG DVR's. So, I would say thus far they are happy with ICR.
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 2:04 pm
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connected audio today...........both WEB and client work perfect.
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 10:50 pm
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I went through the demo and saw the same motion artifacts. It honestly did not look as good as a correctly set up Geo or Aver system.
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Well, VJD this is a thread in the Stand Alone Embedded section of this forum. We are not trying to compare to GEO or Avermedia(Totally different world). And look at the cost of a Realtime Geo or Aver DVR with Audio on every channel, comperable in specs, not even close. So having that said, I would like someone to post a clip of a StandAlone DVR or comparison to a S/A DVR that looks better than this unit. I honestly have not seen one,  Especially for the money.
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Hey Kand, I like the way you selectively quoted me. What happened to the next sentence where I said "Now if you are comparing it to other stand alones..."? 
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I think if you approach the job as if you were doing for yourself, you will do the job to you and your clients satisfaction. You have to really get to know your clients needs and situation regarding their site. When you use solid products from time tested companys like GE, Sanyo, Panasonic, ect, it pays off with repeat contracts and referals.
"any job worth doing is worth doing right." an old quote.
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| jisaac |
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Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 9:01 am
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i dont think that is a good comparison for me. Because if "I" was doing the install for myself then I wwould want good equipment but would not do as good of a job with securing wire and faceplates and all that jazz.
Just kidding
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| spyman99 |
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Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:52 pm
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blowrabbit You statement referring to only using "TESTED COMPANY'S" is in my oppinion a little offbase. As we know in the security world, you can find the so called test company's products directly at www.globalsources.com and since most of the big boys basically re-package (OEM) each other's products, everyone is basically on the same playing field.
I have used just about every product line available from Kaletel to DM's to GEO, again it comes down to your CONFIDENCE in the equipment you chose to elect to promote to your clients that generates refferals and repeat business.
I have personally purchased in FY 2005 a little over $1 MILLION in security products from Mace directly, yet everyone knocks the product line, yet I chose to use it. Yet, my sister company uses everything but Mace. My GM of the sister company likes ICR, Nuvico and no name DVR's from Intellicam.
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