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DinoSteel - 29 Jan 2008, 03:02 pm
I was told by a local vendor / contractor that in order for a contractor to install Video Camera’s that they need to be certified to do so.

My question is this, is there really a law requiring a cable / camera installer to be certified to install Video Cameras, and if so what is the certification called?

I have a feeling my vendor was blowing smoke but wanted to ask the professionals. I reside in Texas if this would make any difference.

Thanks for your response.
Lolo Wolf - 29 Jan 2008, 04:07 pm
http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/psb/alarm.pdf Texas law requires any person or company who provides investigations or security services in the state to be properly licensed to offer or to engage in such services. This requirements of law was originally passed by the Texas Legislature in 1969 and has been in effect ever since. To offer or provide a service required to be licensed without a license carries criminal penalties of up to a year in jail and a $4,000.00 fine.
Hiring or employing a unlicensed company also carries this penalty. info link:
http://www.tbfaa.org/html/licensing_info.asp#BALicensing
WizCam - 29 Jan 2008, 05:30 pm
How about in NJ? In NJ they have a list of all certifications and licenses on their website. None of them include CCTV surveillance installation. For burgular and fire alarms yes.

I've seen a whole assortment of different types of companies installing CCTV ... they don't list licenses .... everything from Home Theater, Security, contractors, home automation and electricians with CCTV services ... true enough that Security (burgular alarm companies), contractors and electricians are licenesed ... but they are licensed in a specific discipline.

I've called local gov't municipalities, lawyers and the state gov't but none could specify a license for CCTV .... they do mention burgular alarms, electricians and the such .... Of course to do business in this state you have to be registered as a company. That is all they could confirm.

Just trying to do due diligence. If anyone knows for sure can they link the statute... Thanks.
DinoSteel - 29 Jan 2008, 05:41 pm
:D :shock: :D

Thanks Lolo Wolf for the quick and accurate reply. I appreciate your time and this forum.

DinoSteel
Lolo Wolf - 29 Jan 2008, 07:00 pm
Your welcome Dinosteel, Wizcam, Been outa the North East for awhile but fairly certain in New Jersey electrical work must be done by a licensed electrical Contractor, anything with a potential of more than 10 volts there are exemptions (http://www.nj.gov/lps/ca/laws/ElectricLaw.pdf )if you abide the rules in the exemption you can perform work that falls under but is not limited to NEC article 800. Example: 45:5A-18 Exempt work or construction. But be aware there are towns and counties where a permit must still be pulled along with a inspection dependent where you are located, so its always good to check local.
Rebco - 30 Jan 2008, 08:25 am
Lolo Wolf is right about NJ Law, I had a run in with a town (Which shall remain nameless) electrical inspector and from the speech i got :o . I left there thanking god my partner is a licensed electrical contractor.
fredsterp - 01 Mar 2008, 11:14 am
HI, I just read that some states require licensing to install cctv equip as a business. Is New York one of those states? Where could I find out that info? Thanks, Fred
Lolo Wolf - 01 Mar 2008, 06:26 pm
Division of Licensing Services
84 Holland Ave.
Albany, NY 12208-3490
Phone: (518) 474-4429
Fax: (518) 473-6648
E-mail: licensing@dos.state.ny.us

License Types:No individual may engage in the business of installing, servicing or maintaining security or fire alarm systems or hold him or herself out as being able to do so unless he or she is licensed by the State of New York.

Security or Fire Alarm Installer
fredsterp - 01 Mar 2008, 09:04 pm
Thanks so much for your help.
Lolo Wolf - 01 Mar 2008, 09:53 pm
Your welcome, also check with local building codes as New York, its counties and City proper have varied municipal enforcement by region.
fredsterp - 02 Mar 2008, 12:59 pm
who's better than you?

Thanks,

haGd,

fred
Lolo Wolf - 02 Mar 2008, 03:36 pm
well thanks.... not better...just older. Regards
Lolo Wolf - 02 Mar 2008, 05:13 pm
Fred, been outa the Tri-state area for awhile, a contractor buddy of mine noted to me that the The Division of Licensing Services Albany Office has moved to the Alfred E. Smith Building 80 South Swan Street - 10th Floor
Albany, New York Here is updated Link http://www.dos.state.ny.us/lcns/install1.htm Regards
fredsterp - 02 Mar 2008, 05:23 pm
thanks again.

U R 1 conscientous person.

haGd,

Fred
Rebco - 02 Mar 2008, 06:01 pm
QUOTE:
well thanks.... not better...just older.

Not Older, I call it just Wiser. :)
Lolo Wolf - 02 Mar 2008, 06:52 pm
Well yeah....I quess we lose the pucker factor as time goes by....A great Irishman said it well.. "youth is wasted on the young"...George Bernard Shaw regards
Tbar - 31 Mar 2008, 01:45 pm
A friend and I do some cat 5 work here in Texas and are looking into doing CCTV jobs.

Do we need a license to do this work and if so what specific license is required to hook 4 cameras to a DVR for customers???


Tbar
CollinR - 31 Mar 2008, 05:34 pm
The very first reply is for TX.
Tbar - 31 Mar 2008, 08:49 pm
QUOTE:
The very first reply is for TX.


I have read through the post and the corresponding TXDPS site and they do not specifically say what license is required.

I was hoping some one could pin point it for me.


Tbar
culpepper - 10 Apr 2008, 12:52 am
How bout California?
mr.verbal - 10 Apr 2008, 11:37 pm
anybody know if in the bronx, ny area requires certified technicians to install cameras?
Rebco - 11 Apr 2008, 07:42 am
Last time i heard Yes it does....
Tbar - 11 Apr 2008, 11:34 am
[quote:319966a24e="Tbar"]
QUOTE:
The very first reply is for TX.


I have read through the post and the corresponding TXDPS site and they do not specifically say what license is required.

I was hoping some one could pin point it for me.


Tbar


We have determined that a class B license is required.

This is a very complicated, confusing bureaucratic gauntlet to negotiate. Its a real shame we have to recreate the wheel here.

We want to get our license and not have work under the radar.........just wanted some one that has gone through it before to give mentoring information. Step 1, step 2, step 3, step 4, etc.........


Tbar
crirvine - 12 Apr 2008, 06:27 pm
State laws for alarm contractors are good things and working under the radar in the state of Tennessee will get you a $5000.00 fine for your effort. I have turned people in for not having the proper papers. We go to classes, we need to know the state laws as it deals with cctv, we have to have insurance to cover our work. So there are proper ways to get in the cctv busness I would ask you do things proper or just try to work in Arkansas not only will they fine you, they will take your car and lock you up in jail.
Tbar - 17 Apr 2008, 11:38 am
So no one is willing to help..........

Thought that was what these forms were for.


Tbar
C7 in CA - 18 Apr 2008, 01:37 am
QUOTE:
So no one is willing to help..........

Thought that was what these forms were for.


Tbar


This pdf was on the page of the link given in the first reply:

http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/psb/forms/forms/CompleteCompanyLicenseApplicationsInstructions.pdf

It is the complete company license application. This looks like the step by step instruction you asked for. All the forms are there and it tells you all the fees and requirements to get your license.

So welcome to the business world. Obtaining your license is just the tip of the iceburg when it comes to the confusing bureaucratic gauntlet. But don't feel bad. I sub out about 90 percent of my bookkeeping. if you need help filling out the forms you should check into hiring an administrative assistant for a day or two through a temp agency.
si_kungs - 19 Apr 2008, 11:35 am
for canada? what certification is needed?
videosecure - 09 May 2008, 04:59 pm
How about Florida, is there a license requirement to install cctv cameras in the state of Florida?
crirvine - 09 May 2008, 09:22 pm
Florida is a state that is very big on certification for the security industry.
scorpion - 10 May 2008, 10:20 pm
Florida:

DBPR (Dibeeper is the trade slang) Home page
https://www.myfloridalicense.com/dbpr/index.html

Department of Business, and Professional Regulation
https://www.myfloridalicense.com/NewApplicationInstruct.asp?Page=intentions2.asp&SID=

FAQs
https://www.myfloridalicense.com/faq.html#ComingSoon


Florida Alarm Association
This needs to be cut and pasted in to your browser
http://www.fla-alarms.org/Consumer/licensed contractors.asp

Alarm Ordinances
http://www.fla-alarms.org/Member/Mind Your Business/False Alarms/index.asp


Starting a Business
http://sunbiz.org/startbus.html

Business Registration
http://sunbiz.org/register.html

OnLine Fictitious Name Registration
https://efile.sunbiz.org/ficregintro.html

Florida Small Business.com
http://www.floridatrend.com/small_biz.asp


Florida State Statues
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?mode=View%20Statutes&SubMenu=1
scorpion - 10 May 2008, 10:22 pm
Here is to find out about the guy who under bid you and the price was to good to compete with.

https://www.myfloridalicense.com/wl11.asp?mode=0&SID=
gfdcxgfd - 11 May 2008, 01:58 am
QUOTE:
Florida:

DBPR (Dibeeper is the trade slang) Home page
https://www.myfloridalicense.com/dbpr/index.html

Department of Business, and Professional Regulation
https://www.myfloridalicense.com/NewApplicationInstruct.asp?Page=intentions2.asp&SID=

FAQs
https://www.myfloridalicense.com/faq.html#ComingSoon


Florida Alarm Association
This needs to be cut and pasted in to your browser
http://www.fla-alarms.org/Consumer/licensed contractors.asp

Alarm Ordinances
http://www.fla-alarms.org/Member/Mind Your Business/False Alarms/index.asp


Starting a Business
http://sunbiz.org/startbus.html

Business Registration
http://sunbiz.org/register.html

OnLine Fictitious Name Registration
https://efile.sunbiz.org/ficregintro.html

Florida Small Business.com
http://www.floridatrend.com/small_biz.asp


Florida State Statues
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?mode=View%20Statutes&SubMenu=1


Thanks alot for the link buddy. I am from tallasshaee florida, and am interesting in starting my own part time CCTV installations. This will help me a bunch. once again thanks, these are some great links.
scorpion - 11 May 2008, 09:55 am
Congradulations! You want to start your own business!

http://www.cctvforum.com/cms_view_article.php?aid=31
vin2install - 12 May 2008, 05:17 pm
You might need a C-7 low voltage contractor license
scorpion - 12 May 2008, 05:20 pm
In Florida an alarm license comes with a low voltage license.
brianoftheforum - 08 Jul 2008, 05:21 pm
Division of Licensing Services- Security or Fire Alarm Installers Walk-In Examination

The exam is multiple choice, based on the 60-hour prelicensing curriculum.

was trying to see where you can do the 60 hr curiculum in nyc
anyone know?
rory - 08 Jul 2008, 08:05 pm
QUOTE:
Congradulations! You want to start your own business!

http://www.cctvforum.com/cms_view_article.php?aid=31




:lol:
digitlman - 17 Jul 2008, 12:42 pm
What if you are a business (in FL) and want to install just a video surveillance system yourself on your own property for anti-theft purposes? Would you need a license then?
gfdcxgfd - 23 Jul 2008, 11:49 pm
QUOTE:
What if you are a business (in FL) and want to install just a video surveillance system yourself on your own property for anti-theft purposes? Would you need a license then?


Nope, just as long as YOU own it and its all done by YOU then I am pretty sure you cant get in trouble, but then again hell it is always good to make sure before you have to pay for it later, Just call up DBPR, I am sure they can help. 850.487.1395

Infact, I think I am gonna go pay them a visit tomorrow, Still debating.
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