Avtech. i got a 4ch AVtech 780w and some of the buttons stop working
i gotta reboot it then they work and then sometimes don't.

would it be a defective unit or crappy firmware?

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Back to the Korean DVR, does it record at 720px or 360 resolution?

Does it support recording in 720x resolution or is that only for display?
I think Everfocus does 720, anyone else?

Is this the GE Kalatel DVMR 8CD??
IF so yes. It is much higher quality video than Everfocus as well.

They are calling it a Samsung but I think only the CD drive in that thing is a SAMSUNG as I cannot find the actual DVR on their site.

GEN IV?


lots of info on the specs except for what I need

That Dvr is made by Sys-tek, www.sys-tek.co.kr its an oem, a lot of manufacturers re-brand this DVR and sell it on, Very Cheap but stable as a rock, have not yet had a single problem with them. PM me the price you're paying for, i'll let you know if you're getting a good deal

Piece of advice, don't buy of a company who trying to make a few hundred $$ of you by telling you its a samsung DVR!

Where can I find a 16-channel version of this DVR. I would like to see the cost of one since you describe the 8-channel as "cheap, but stable."

Thanks

My impression is that only the CD-R unit is Samsung. A bit misleading, but that's what you have to expect when you shop for a "rebranded" DVR. Here's the 16ch version with price:

http://www.intellicamusa.com/dvr-series.htm

can you say - Lock up .... cause thats what they do.

no,it is not a Samsung, not even close, just look at the ugly thing!!

Rory, you're not the first guy to say that, definitely a very ugly DVR!

I'll be honest, ive never had one lock up on me, well not yet anyway! For the price you can't complain, all of them come with TCP/IP connection as standard. The only problem i had was once i was only getting 7 channels out of the 8 to work, thats about it.

I used the avtech 16 channel before this and they really let me down, PSU issues!!!!. I mean there were times where i was installing a DVR one week and going a week after to replace the PSU! you can imagine what my customer was thinking. My supplier tells me they've sorted out the problem, maybe they have, but i refuse to go back to a manufacturer once they've let me down!! also its a 18fps, this one's 25fps, motion is easier to set up, its got a CDRW, remote control making it more user friendly for the customer.

18fps?


Avtechs i use are 30fps...

Anywayz, whats the US price on the 4 channel?
And who makes it in Asia..?

the CD feature is nice, but does it work properly?

I Have seen uglier though, like the sanyo and some Asian OEM ones .. just take a stroll over at ASMAG.com.. ;-)

thanks
Rory

Come on, the Sanyo one is perty. Makes me all warm inside, like when I see an 8 track player.

:lol:

i think its just that beige colored DVRs look cheap ..they should at least change the color .. :D

you have to hit stop to get into the menu for sure. Basically once its recording you have to stop the recording to do any menu stuff.

On that "Samsung" they are coming out with a new version with dynamic IP setting and more options. Supposed to be a solid unit. I will let you know as soon as it comes.

we need to make a CCTVFORUM branded DVR .. :-)

Sounds good. I am thinking of my own BUBBADVR with the Best Digital Surveillance System software.

nah, the "BESTEST" Digtal surveillanse vidoe software

got to get the typos and grammer right :-)

JPEG-2000???
http://www.sys-tek.co.kr/pro/products_1610a.htm

ha ha ha hhhhaa .. :-)

it uses the HiSharp OEM software, same as every other OEM Asian DVR ..no diff .. "da best in da wurld market" .. dey mussee hittin some of dat kurean chronic :lol:

uh oh... they are the "BEST IN THE WORLD MARKET".

You beat to me to the bestest quote rory.

Oh well, since they are the best, I can longer look at GEO since they are only 'better'. :lol:

:lol:

thats why im coming out with "the Best of the Bestest software in da video surveillance univerise market" ..

That DVR is made by Argus in Korea I think. We talked about this DVR only a million times before. We put in 10-15 of them in the beginning. The recording quality is really bad, and you can't adjust it. The network viewer keeps locking up all the time. Real cheap stuff. Interesing about the Samsung brand theory. it. I am going to start buying SONY CD-RW to put in the the DVR's so I can sell them as SONY DVR's.

From Intellicam support (4/4/2005), in response to several questions I asked about the 16 channel version of this player:

-Our DVMR machines do not utilize DVR cards. These are not PC based systems. They are true stand alone systems that operate on a proprietary RTOS.
-Sir, we are not your run-of-the-mill fly-by-night PC shop selling DVRs. We are a very successful US distributor of professional security products. We will be around for a very, very long time. If at any time there is a bug fix for the units we will send out a firmware upgrade at your request if required.
-The DVR itself comes with client software that allows for remote live viewing and playback only via the Internet. There is an additional module that we have developed solely for this product that allows complete control and viewing as if you were standing at the machine itself. It is accessible through Internet Explorer with no client software and also supports free, full dynamic IP.
-There is a 300 cell grid that you can mask off or on per camera.
-There is either schedule record, motion record, alarm record, or 24/7
-The type of record mode is for ALL cameras and cannot be configured per camera.

They don't list the recording speed for some reason......

FredB, the ASD-1610 is listed as "new". Is that the model you installed?

Also from Intellicam support:

My question: who is the OEM?

Answer: We are.

http://www.arguscctv.com/

Intellicam being the OEM. Don't think so.
We use to install the 4 and 8 channel version. They just added the cd burner. Other then that it is the same dvr.

Cheapest DVR out there with a cd burner. Telpix carries it in Los Angeles also.
www.telpix.com


You get what you pay for.

ask him if he speakes korean ... :-)

This is their "Basic Warranty Statement".
"It will take approximately 3 to 4 weeks to process, from the date of receipt. The repaired or replacement unit will be delivered to the customer by UPS. Please make sure the return address is deliverable by UPS. (NO PO BOX Please)" -it goes on to say- "There are no advanced replacements on products and defective items will be returned via UPS Ground. There are no exceptions".


This says alot about the caliper of the company. :roll:

what!?

So if it goes bad, I have to wait 4 weeks to get a new one?

That's what it says...where does the buying line start? :shock:

Read here, while we are off the topic:

http://www.cctvforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=1826

DataAve,

My CCTV application is a residence and my first impression on the cost of DVRs and cameras was similar to most homeowners. One's first impluse is to compare the price of a multi-channel security DVR to that of a TiVo. But it would be more accurate to compare the price of a security DVR to a high-end computer. When you get into that range, $1000-$3000 doesn't seem that unreasonable.

However, only a few years ago, TiVos cost $600 or more. So, if we see a growing demand for security DVRs for the residential market, we can expect prices to come down and quality go up.

Like any investment in technology, the question is: spend more to get something pretty good now or wait to get something better for less later.

Tell that to a client (home owner) and he'll show you the door.

That would make being a residential installer a tough business. Besides, the future of residential CCTV is probably DYI anyway. The winners in this market will be those who focus on volume, price, packaging, and support.

Think: Dell of CCTV.

...with da support from Bangalore! :shock:

ive maybe sold 10 (?) $3000 DVRs in the past couple years ... they just dont sell, they just dont care how good it is ..they'd rather a VCR or nothing down here ..

No. The plan is to offshore to the Bahamas. 8)

Oh well that's ok then I guess.

Its already a screwed up business. I get this email every month from this place in Miami that sells dead cheap OEM stuff, I mean DVRs for $175, color cameras at $30, PTZ for $500, etc.

But they sell to anyone that walks into their shops. I have clients here that are on their dealer mailing lists! They have even forwarded me emails from them to me, that ofcourse I already had, on the monthly specials, in otherwords saying why is my stuff so expensive!!!

Anyway, the majority of people selling them here, have no clue about the technical side of CCTV, really nothing at all, they just plug anything in. So there is still a need there, as well as volume for DIY stuff in retail stores to resell, and high end clients.

On that note guys, I just got the approval on a $70K quote that has been in the works for a year now ..!

If you look at the evolution of the computer industry you can see the parallels. In 1975, who would imagine almost everyone (in the "first world") would have a computer 30 years later? And you can see the trend accelerating: cell phones, HDTV, DVRs... and let's not mention the web. The evolution of and adoption to new technologies is happening faster and faster.

I'm sure CCTV fits somewhere in this, but still trying to figure out to what degree and how soon.

they have to start by getting rid of ActiveX and making it all Java .. :-)

Did anyone get it to work hooked up directly to the high-speed modem?
So far I've only been able to get it to work behind a router

You have to change the port from incoming port 80, to another port that is not being used. Your ISP most likely blocked incoming port 80, whereas, on your network you have that port available.

Also check to see if the modem itself has a firewall. The Westells that the baby bells seem fond of have them.

I had a nEverfocus on it before it was working ok on Port 80

This DVMR uses port 8000 as default. I cannot ping the machine either.
It's a static IP too, it supposedly supports dynamic IP but I was never able to get it to work. With a static IP it doesn't work either unless its a 192.168 number.

Go to no-ip.com and read on. Sign up for the free account.

We all heard of Pelco. Do they make cameras?? Usually Sony/Pelco or Panasonic/Pelco. It pays to dig until it hurts until you finally find that name brand that fits your needs. A unit, that you know the menus so well, you can guide a troubled customer through the menus from your couch. The pay part I found, is the same head end unit, same software (linux) and a $2000 price difference because of the name on the front of the unit as well as some changed soft touch controls.

Does this make sense??

:?: :?: :?: :?

hiccup...drink me another pour? :shock:

I can be more specific

Yes, The DVMR is manufactured in Korea as all decent standalones are all presently made in Korea. Quality out of China and Taiwan is still not up to par. I just returned from Korea, China, and Japan. We are still going to OEM from Korea even though price levels are higher.

The reason many cctv companies (Not Us) brand this DVMR as Samsung is because GVI/Samsung also OEM's the exact same DVR using the exact same case from the exact same manufacturer. Most of these threads contain sporadic if not completely incorrect data. Intellicam has always marketed this standalone as a very stable, yet entry DVR model. Some of our resellers over sell our unit. However, we're quite confident when compared side by side using price as a barmometer, it offers exceptional value. Maybe thats why over 80,000 are in use today worldwide.

As for Rory, and his notion that this unit is a Hi-Sharp, I urge him and any other cctv supplier who intends on being in business a while, to fully compare internal hardware. There are significant differences. You can start with the fact that Hi-Sharp only supports a 250gig Drive, that speaks volumes for their processor. In addition, playback quality is not as good as the Gen IV unit. Recording in full 720 X 480 resolution for our unit is 60fps. Our competition advertises real-time, not advising the market that in many instances, they are referring to 320 X 120 pixel recording. Thats bad form.

If all of you would start using IBM/Hitachi drives instead of the less expensive Western Digital, Samsung, and Maxtor Drives, you would realize a one per 300 failure as opposed to one to three per hundred.

We are an investor in our manufacturer. In the USA we are the largest distributor for this manufacturers standalone series. Combined with our sister company in the UK, we are third worldwide in volume sales of standalone dvr units. Our goal was to offer a price level to installers that eliminated their necessity to import. To give independent cctv companies and distributors a fighting chance in this market.

We now have staffed offices in Canada, The Midwest, and California opens soon. We are also increasing our presence in Asia to two additional staffed offices as we are adding Shenzhen as a distribution point for container shipments. I urge all of you that try to "guess" what separates one dvr from the next, to go overseas, visit the manufacturers, tour their smt facilities, and demand component certifications. When you're done, you'll find that 98% of "manufacturers" you visit are not manufacturers.

We will continue to offer entry level products at prices our dealers, installers, and distributors can successfully install and distribute. I ask that you fairly compare our products in their perspective price range, and then follow our engineers recommendations for HDD units, etc. We've created multi-million dollar distribution partners throughout the USA and most of our dealers are doing very well over the last two years. No one in this forum can send any of you to a distributor with better pricing. Beginning this summer, we are introducing extremely high end products as requested by several thousand of our strategic partners in the USA. Watch Out Pelco.

All due respect, Gen IV is Garbage.

Dave, in that price point, what is close in performance? And do you own a cctv company or just in a bad mood?

This is from a non-biased Security Installer. Gen IV is junk.

Don't mess with DATA, He;s in the Union!!!!! :twisted: :twisted:

And you know what that means, okey?

You know something? I just read his post. Watch out PELCO? haha!!

3 Offices? two in ASIA? 1 in the UK? Multi-Million Dollar Transactions?

oh yeah, and my name is Osama.


Do you believe ur own BS? I have not seen you in any trade shows, have not even heard your name other than eBay, and what's worse, you are insulting me over $1500 bucks that I don't even owe you? man, tell us that you work for that show "PUNK'D" and show us the cameras. :lol:

Although I would admit the price is okay, the best stand alone DVR on the market is still GE (Kalatel).

Oh yeah, I never said it was a HiSharp, I said it uses the HiSharp software, whether the software is theirs or not, its the same thing, almost all low end DVRs use the same software.

Personally I believe in quality over quantity.

I've got one of these in a business I just bought, but don't have any manuals. It has 8 channels, a 160Gb hard disk and a CD-R drive and Ethernet port. Although it is working in the standalone mode, I need to learn more about it, especially how to connect it to the network and back up images to the CD drive. I am also looking at increasing its capacity...Does anyone have a VALID location where I can download a set of manuals (I think it has a User Manual and a Config guide) so I have something to use?
Thanks!!!!

Yes, I just picked up one of these GEN IV 8 Channel DVR's 160gb drive.
I paid $200 shipped. Too much ?

ALso I have no documentation and no power supply. What is the amp output of your PSU ? I'm planning to add a 12V 5A I think that should be enough.

If you find any DOCUMENTATION software etc for this unit, please let me know....

Thanks

I think they are 12V 8.5amp but don't quote me on that....

Thanks for good information.