I had been running Geovision v6.0 for awhile and then finally got my usb security dongle in the mail and immediately upgraded to v7.0. I opened the multicam program and realized I forgot my password. I read the Geo user's manual and it sad something about running a reset password exe located in a file folder. I did that but it said I can't reset my password. Now do I really have to reinstall windows if I forgot my password??? Help!!!

NO you dont.

Use the ultimate boot CD or Winternals.

PM me if ya need

Wait, sorry. You were talking about the GEOvision password or your windows password??

I am talking about the main GV800 multicam program, not windows.

give me minute and ill check it out

Any update?

Did you check the box 'Allow Removal of P/W System' when you originally set up the GEO?

If not, even after going 10 rounds with Geo Tech Support we had to format and start over...

not yet, but i think i know how, will update you this afternoon, i actually reset it by mistake last night .. so now i have to figure how i did that!!!

The password was in the registry last I checked. Seek and ye shall find. But, a reinstall is probably your best bet since you don't really want to be mucking in the registry unless you know what your doing.

andy

Are you speaking of a Geovision reinstall or an entire Windows reinstall?

i got it .. give me a sec and lemme see if i can get it for you ..

cctv dude

No I did not check the 'Allow Removal of P/W System'.

The user manual now says I need to reinstall WINDOWS!

Do I have to??? Or can I get by with a Geo reinstall???

send me a PM/Email ..

A format and reinstall of windows only takes an hour at most.Then 30 mins to setup Geo

Can you get in the system at all?

Start over and you will bet rid of all the c--p on the machine and it will run a lot sweeter.

Then you can remember your password for next time :wink:

what version of the software do you have? There is a program that does it for you .. if not, there is another program I have that also does it as a stand alone app. Check the Geo main folder first.

When it happed to us, we uninstalled & reinstalled Geo like 10X and nothing worked. We eventually had to format and reinstall win then reinstall Geo...

i got the program here that fixes it. Its a geo program file actually. Reinstalling the software wont do it.

rory

If you are saying to run "PassUnInStall.exe" in the main GV800 folder then I have tried that. I get an error message that says, "not enough privilages". I guess I didn't check the box to allow this when I installed the first time. If you have another program that will do the trick I'd love to try it.

I sent you a PM with my email address.


Thanks!

One of the things the Geo tech people recommended was the PassUnInStall.exe file, but it didn't work for us either...

Yeah, the passuninstall will only work if you had the allow removal .... option checked. For the programmers out there remember that that value has to be written somewhere... Also, yeah I mean a windows reinstall.

There's another program that clears it though (doesnt come with the default install), and im checking something else out right now that may be easier

I suppose we could find it out using REGMON and FILEMON from Sysinternals, but I haven't had enough time to look more thoroughly.

Currently I'm not aware of any possibility to reset the password when "Allow removing password" option is disabled.

For all people who have this "small" problem, I prepare such short article:

I cannot login to MultiCam system. What can I do?
http://www.polvision.com.pl/faqs.asp?lang=en&id=58

And I will try to find out some other possibilities when I have more time.

Well, like i said, the program I have (and alot of you guys too) works ..

Does Geovision know about it? Their support didn't mention its existance which is not a suprise - it simply means their password system is vulnerable :?

Very interesting. Is it some kind of registry modification? :lol:

Would it be possible for you to send me a link to this utility? I could publish it with neccessary information (not forgetting you are the author). in my article. I'm sure it will help many people in such stupid situations like forgetting the admin password :)

Sent you a PM .. dont know if they know, i think it was something they may not have counted on, so far I havent found where the actuall pass is contained but doesnt appear to be the registry. My search on windows is having problem so I cant do a full search, when i get some more time ill check it out ..

If you have physical root access to the system you can't design a password system that isn't crackable.

Yeah ive been searching everywhere for it, but it must be hidden somewhere .. could be some file with another extension like .dll and they just encrypt it and then call it a different name ... its not in the registry cause i tried that .. anyway, no worries, found a program by Geo that does it.

My Windows Search crashes so im using a Text Search program but that crashes the PC also if you try and search the whole HDD .. bummer .. ;-(

I agree. Even passwords contained in Windows local security subsystem can be reset in just few seconds (considering physical access). Cracking passwords is a completely different case, it takes months/years - even on powerful machines, because system does not keep passwords but password hashes which are impossible to revert. They must be compared to other password hashes in a loop. Finally, if one of these hashes comply to a hash stored in the security account database - password is found and cracked. This process can last very very long, depending on the password complexity and the machine CPU power.

In my opinion, Geovision should think about running their systems on a user account instead of powerful administrator account. But I'm affraid it's science fiction for now - they have a weird security point of view. For example, they prefer not to differentiate between capital and small letters in their passwords, because most Geo users are having trouble remembering the passwords :cry:

Fortunately, we can always use KeyLock utility to protect our Geovision systems, while not giving admin priviledges to system operators.

Did you ever get into the multicam?

I have just received the BSOD and a clicking hdd .


Full Windows re-install, drivers etc and Geo, 45mins, so not too bad.

Yes, I got back in. I used the program from rory.

Thanks everyone!

Tomasz, heard of that incident in Poland, dont think you are near it, but please check in with us.. thanks

rory

Hi,

Katowice - it's 400 km (250 miles) from me. Something terrible happened, the hall roof fell down during some big exhibition. About 1000 people were inside (fortunately not 8000 people like couple hours before the accident). 128 people are in hospitals fighting for life and 65 people are already dead. The numbers are still increasing while removing building parts.

I know these numbers cannot be compared to other terrible tragedies like WTC, but still this is the biggest tragedy in Poland since 1986 when some plane crashed. Poland is in mourning for 3 days.

Thanks for asking.

ok thanks, good to know you arent near there and are safe, also sad for the people involved, condolences to the families.

"Yes, I got back in. I used the program from rory.

Thanks everyone!"

Where can I find this program to unlock our system?

[quote:f9e98d9fa1="CCTVDude"] When it happed to us, we uninstalled & reinstalled Geo like 10X and nothing worked. We eventually had to format and reinstall win then reinstall Geo...