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kaysadeya - 24 Apr 2005, 03:57 pm
This is my long-promised review of the Kodicom KSR516. This is my first CCTV DVR, so I can’t comment on how the unit compares to anything but the Lorex timelapse VCR it replaces.

I’ve focused on the shortcomings in this review, but that’s because when I research a product I want to understand where it falls short. What it does right, unless it’s exceptional, is taken for granted. Overall I’m more than very happy with this DVR! It’s very solid and its basic operations are reliable.

My setup:

• 12 cameras at various locations outdoors.

• 4 monitors: one VGA and three standard TVs. Each TV location has a Xantech IR receiver that relays remote-control commands to an IR emitter on the DVR. The remote control is an important feature in my system. There are actually two versions of this DVR. The version with the black front panel and the big knob in the middle does not have a remote control; my version is the one with the silver front panel with the knob on the right.

• Communication between the DVR and my PC client is over a wireless network, so I can monitor and playback from any location on my laptop.


Highlights:

• Solid, reliable operation
• Linux OS
• Remote control (necessary for my home installation)
• Mouse (accelerates admin tasks in setup menu)
• Monitoring outputs: 1 VGA, 1 BNC composite, 1 S-Video
• 112 fps recording (NTSC)
• Resolution: 352 X 240 or 740 X 240 (NTSC)
• Compression: Proprietary ‘Engine-X’
• CD-RW backup or remote USB device


Documentation:

What looks like a good user guide turns out to be a disappointment when you try to figure out how to set and use certain features. It appears that Kodicom was really serious about trying to produce a good document. The presentation is really very professional, but the writer was unable to effectively communicate how configure and use the DVR. Specifics below.


Setup:

Truly plug-and-play. Connecting the cameras and setting the basic recording features is easy and intuitive. However, configuring some of the motion-detection features and getting the unit to talk to the PC client over the network is another story (see “Recording” and “Networking”).

The first unit I received had a defective ‘Camera 1’ input, but my supplier immediately sent a replacement unit. I was able to keep my original unit until the replacement unit arrived and they paid all return shipping, so there was really no pain there.

The unit comes with an 80 GB drive. One of the great things about this unit is that you can expand the storage with as many as four off-the-self drives up to 1 TB. I ordered two Western Digital 250 GB drives from Amazon and threw them in one Saturday morning. They worked perfectly from day one. However, there was some confusion over whether the third disk should be designated as ‘Secondary Master’ or ‘Secondary Slave.’ Another deficiency with the user guide.

The DVR has two fans that do an excellent job cooling the circuits and drives, but they also generate a lot of noise. This isn’t a problem for me, but it might be for someone who installs the unit in an occupied room.


Monitoring:

You can monitor all 16 cameras in realtime, or any subset in either 9, 4, or 1 camera displays. You can also set an ‘auto channel rotation’ mode that will cycle through either 9, 4, or 1 camera displays. One drawback is that you can’t disable camera inputs, so you have to cycle through unused camera displays. You can use the loop-out/input jacks to duplicate displays, but I would hope that Kodicom offers a more elegant work-around in their future DVRs.

You cannot view the setup menu from both the monitor and VGA screens. Rather you have to set the dip switch in the back to one or the other. I understand that in most commercial installations it's probably desirable to have only one central control; but in my particular installation it would be useful to have the option to set the unit so the menu can be accessed from either the VGA or any of the three TVs.

Every time you use the remote control to select a different camera or view to monitor, the unit BEEPS. Makes you want to rip out the speaker!! One the plus side, the DVR also beeps when it loses a camera signal.

Monitoring from the PC client is easy and convenient, but the display is not realtime, as you’d expect when a network is in the middle.

This is a nit, but it would be nice if the unit supported more PTZ protocols, or at least provided the ability to input a custom protocol. I have two PTZ controllers that the DVR does not recognize.


Recording:

You can set the resolution, color, brightness, contrast, and motion sensitivity level for each individual camera. In addition you can alert other cameras when motion is detected on a different camera. For example, if motion is detected on Camera 1, you can start recording on Camera 1, as well as Cameras 2 and 3. Though I haven’t made any use of this feature, you can trigger recording from external sensors and alert the PC client when an event occurs. You can also trigger external alarms based on certain events. Sweet features, but I don’t know if they are standard for all DVRs.

The Engine-X compression appears to be efficient. With 12 cameras set at full sensitivity motion detection over the entire image (almost always recording) and at the highest resolution, the DVR stores about 10 days of video on 580 GB of storage. (I used these settings to test to maximum limits of the DVR and will be readjusting them later for more efficient storage.)

When setting up motion-detection, it’s unclear how to block segments of the view area from motion detection. The default display in “Recording Setup” is a grid of rectangles that partially mask the image. Clicking on a rectangle presents a clear, unmasked image for that rectangle. The user guide indicates that the “highlighted areas” are the ones that are blocked from motion detection, but that seems counter-intuitive. A more intuitive setup would be that the partially masked areas are the ones that are blocked from motion detection and the clear areas detect the motion. So I’m not sure whether the user guide is wrong or they muffed the interface.


Playback (“search mode”):

You can playback stored video while the system continues to record current views.

The playback image is very good and can be done in either 16, 9, 4 or single camera views. On the PC client, you can select all cameras or any combination of cameras for playback. Selecting a single camera view presents a small view the same size as that camera in the quad view, only alone with a lot of black space around it. You must zoom in to get a full view of a single screen. Once zoomed-in you can proceed with playback in the full screen view. On the PC-client, you need to first stop playback to zoom in, but the zoomed-in setting remains when switching between multi-camera and single-camera views. However, when playing back directly from the DVR, you have to zoom-in each time you revisit the single-camera view. Very annoying. It would be much better to make zoom-in the default when switching to a single view.

The PC client provides much more control over the playback than the menu on the DVR, which is odd because playback directly from the DVR to a VGA monitor provides the best image. From the PC client, you can change the sharpness, brightness and other settings for each view. You can even rotate the view and use a ‘digital zoom’ feature to zoom into a portion of the image during playback. Nice, but these features are not available from the DVR menu.

In general, I’ve encountered fewer problems playing back from the PC client than directly on the DVR. In either environment, it takes some time to learn how to playback without messing things up. Going forward and then backward and vise versa can be a frustrating experience. I’ve also discovered that, if you play back a large number of cameras and then select one or a subset of those cameras for further playback, after a long period of time, the cameras that weren’t in that subset are “left behind.” For example, if you’re playing back 8 cameras and at the “12:00” timestamp switch to 4 and playback until “3:00,” when you switch back to 8 cameras, you discover that the other 4 are still stuck at “12:00.” What’s worse is that, rather than catching up to “3:00”, all of the cameras go back to “12:00.” If less time elapses, the cameras with the older timestamp will catch up with the cameras with the newer timestamp, so the fall-back-to-the-older-timestamp behavior appears to be a bug.

I've noticed a few freeze-ups on playback directly on the DVR unit (VGA display and using the front controls). This occurs mostly when displaying a quad screen and varying the playback speed. Seems to happen frequently when playing back in reverse.


Networking:

There’s a special PC client, called the “Center Program,” that you install on a PC. I don’t know if there’s a Mac or Unix client and I’m not aware of any generic browser-based client. I can’t compare the PC client to others, but it’s good enough. As Rory knows, I had a really hard time configuring everything to get it to work, but that’s because the needed information is strewn all over the users guide and most of the necessary bits and pieces of information I could assemble weren’t very clear. Once I got everything working, the PC client is more-or-less solid. I’ve had it freeze up a few times and crash twice, but that’s better than most of the apps I run on WinDoze.

Backup:

I haven’t yet used the CD-RW drive or a remote USB device to do any backups, but will report back when I do.
DataAve - 01 May 2005, 01:13 pm
Thanks for the review bud. Anything more to add?
kaysadeya - 01 May 2005, 02:07 pm
What more would you like to know? :|
DataAve - 01 May 2005, 02:08 pm
Have you hit it with a hammer yet? :(
Cooperman - 03 May 2005, 04:59 pm
Thanks for the review kaysadeya,

Would you consider scoring marks out of ten for various features?
It might be useful for anyone wanting to do a quick comparison if in the future, others do the same.

Just a thought.
rory - 03 May 2005, 05:10 pm
what we need to do is set up a list of common features, 2 seperate ones, 1 for PC DVRs and another for stand alones ... maybe should start a new thread on this ..?

once we get a list then we can use it to rate the DVRs ..
kaysadeya - 03 May 2005, 09:01 pm
Great idea Rory. If we can compile all of the feature information into one place, that would be very useful. The problem is how can different users with different needs and experiences rate the features?

Cooperman, I'm not qualified to score the features because I haven’t had experiences with any other DVRs (only a lowly Lorex VCR). :cry:
rory - 03 May 2005, 09:12 pm
Yeah, Im thinking more of just a feature list, not personal opinions, then if that DVR has that feature or doesnt, that could make the difference from someone buying it or not . ..

things like, does it have MPEG4, USB, Movie or Image only to USB/CDRW, etc etc etc ...
kaysadeya - 21 Jan 2006, 10:19 pm
My Kodicom is still going strong. No long-term problems.
rory - 21 Jan 2006, 10:24 pm
where you beed bud ? welcome back
heloder - 21 Jan 2006, 10:43 pm
GOOD TO HEAR! OUR KSR(DVW)816 is even better than the 516.
kaysadeya - 21 Jan 2006, 10:55 pm
Thanks Rory. I went through some major career/life challenges, but now finally have some free time to focus on more interesting topics.
Cooperman - 23 Jan 2006, 03:40 pm
Hi kaysadeya,

Long time no hear - welcome back!

If you do have "...free time to focus on more interesting topics", we won't be discussing CCTV then! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Daryl733 - 11 Feb 2006, 10:35 am
Good review.

More information. (Used this DVR as I've carry it as well).

Dual Monitor
You can choose to use either 1 monitor or 2 monitor setup with this DVR.
(3 Monitor also can, but 3rd monitor's a call/spot out monitor, so no point mentioning it).
In Dual monitor mode, you'll need a VGA monitor and a BNC/SVideo Monitor. One monitor will just display the cameras in split screen mode. The other monitor (VGA) will enable user to enlarge any of the camera, do setting, playback. This will enable users to review setting/recording while keeping an eyes on the current live video feed.

Multisite.
It does have multisite capabilities. I.e. connect to multiple dvr over network and view them on a single remote client. But it's not a single click things. Got do a few click before you can get the multisite up. And if a site loss connection, it doesn't reconnect back automatically. You gotta do that manually. Used to think it is ok till i used another dvr. It'll just connect auto to all sites and try reconnecting if any site loss connection.

Remote Client
It doesn't comes with Mac/Unix Client. Nor does it have IE/Java based Browser Player. The only way you can get it to work in network is to install the Wintel's Client.
Software does crash sometimes. But it's only the client. But it could be because of the windows pc it was used on is not stable.

Backup to CDRW.
Backuping up can be done in 2 format.
1. Kodicom's own format. Viewable in it's own player.
Backing up in the CDR also include the player in. So you can basically just pass around the CD and the person would be able to playback from it with the accompanied software.
2. AVI file.
Backup to avi file. But the minus part is that encoding to AVI files takes quite a long time. The last time i tried, it's much longer than real time. I gotta check again, but from what i remember, it's about 1 hr to backup ard 5-10mins of video to avi format. I thought it hang and went on doing something else, only to come back much latter to discover that it is actually backing up and almost completing after a long time.

PocketPC.
It does support remote viewing on Pocket PC Client as well. You didn't mention it. :)

FYI, the one i carried and implemented was the black one with the knob in the center. with CDRW drive.
Daryl733 - 11 Feb 2006, 10:44 am
QUOTE:
GOOD TO HEAR! OUR KSR(DVW)816 is even better than the 516.


Yup. Major difference.

1. Support up to LIVE recording on all 16 Cameras.
2. Nicer front panal.
3. Support 16 Audio Recording.
4. Support 7 Monitor Mode.
a. 1 for LIVE 16 Channel Display
b. 1 for Setting/Playback/Review/PTZ Control.
c. 1 for Call/Spot Monitor
d. 4 Monitor to split the 16 Channels Display to 4 x 4 Quad Display.
e. Support Firewire and SCSI ( Haven't try this feature yet)
msecure - 12 Feb 2006, 03:00 am
[quote="Daryl733"]
Remote Client
It doesn't comes with Mac/Unix Client. Nor does it have IE/Java based Browser Player. The only way you can get it to work in network is to install the Wintel's Client.quote]

Actually the latest firmware upgrade will include an activex IE browser support.
heloder - 12 Feb 2006, 11:07 pm
http://asgdvr.com/KSR816.htm

a better look at the 816
kaysadeya - 05 Jan 2008, 01:45 am
After almost three years, my KSR-516 finally gave out. :(

My part of the SF Bay Area had an extended power outage today. When the power finally came back on, the KSR-516 refused to power up. After almost three years of flawless service, it's completely dead.

I don't see a fuse and have long ago lost the instruction manual. Does anyone know how to troubleshoot a power-up problem? :?:
heloder - 05 Jan 2008, 08:32 am
Sounds like a bad Power Supply. Give us a ring, and we'll take a look at it. Or we can point you to a site to buy a new power supply.

J
kaysadeya - 05 Jan 2008, 06:38 pm
QUOTE:
Sounds like a bad Power Supply. Give us a ring, and we'll take a look at it. Or we can point you to a site to buy a new power supply.

J


That's what I was thinking. Maybe I'll crack the case and test the output from the power supply (I assume I'm looking for 12v). Is there anything I should know before doing this?
heloder - 05 Jan 2008, 07:58 pm
I'm at home, so I don't have the model number of the PS you need. But if you open the case, the PS should show the correct Model number.

Cheers
kaysadeya - 06 Jan 2008, 02:37 pm
QUOTE:
I'm at home, so I don't have the model number of the PS you need. But if you open the case, the PS should show the correct Model number.

Cheers


Hi Jason, I sent you a PM.
kaysadeya - 13 Jan 2008, 02:40 pm
I just installed a new power supply and am now back in business. \:D/

Thanks Jason!
Daryl733 - 28 Jan 2008, 06:40 am
Now it's me who have a prob. :)
Got a unit of KSR516, basically boot up to show the 16 multiplexing screen with the cameras showing, but that's it. Doesn't boot up anymore.
I suspect it's the IDE Flash memory that's giving the prob, the firmware's lost, that's why it couldn't boot up.

Anyone else faced the same prob ? Or any one can send me a copy of the firmware image for to try copying back to the IDE Flash mem ? Basically kodicom just say the system's spoil, need to send back. But as all old equipments goes, out of warranty, doesn't really worth the $$ to get it repair. Already got the customer to change the DVR to another brand and model, they was pissed off with kodicom local agent services. :D
heloder - 07 Feb 2008, 11:30 pm
Hi Daryl,

Sorry to hear about your experience with Kodicom. You are correct with regards to the flash memory. If you replace it, you should be good. Let me know if I can help. I know you’re not in the USA, but we’ll do what we can.
Daryl733 - 14 Feb 2008, 06:07 pm
QUOTE:
Hi Daryl,

Sorry to hear about your experience with Kodicom. You are correct with regards to the flash memory. If you replace it, you should be good. Let me know if I can help. I know you’re not in the USA, but we’ll do what we can.


We had sent it to the local kodicom distributor (we were last time, but stop since they wasn't interested to coporate to take legal action against pirated kodicom card user/seller). They wasn't able to assist, and informed have to send back to korea for repair, i.e. huge shipping cost with no promise of repair.

Anyway, anyone has a ghost image the flash memory ? we could get the ide transflash mem to replace it if we have the image of the firmware.
koolclit - 05 Jul 2008, 03:31 am
My serial number is 516S06E22013E. Please do help me i have this DVR and it is a great product. It was running at my branch office for last many months. Now I am having problem in it that its OS does not respond when i switch it off it never boots the software correctly. It displays the cams but the any operation does not start like recording or any other. When i used to start it, it used to give a message "PROCESSING" After 60 seconds or so and after thaT THE dvr STARTS ITS NORMAL FUNCTIONALITY BUT now that Processing message never appears and it only displays the cams without any function.

Please do tell me the remedy as i found your web site very helpfull and informative.
kaysadeya - 25 Jul 2008, 12:50 am
I'm happy to report, that my DVR is still chugging along like a champ.

For a complex device that serves non-stop for YEARS, I have to say I'm impressed!
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