ank - 08 Oct 2007, 09:19 am
hi, everybody
i am trying to build, pc based dvr system for my c-store, i have following components for pc in my mind. intel DP35DP, intel q6600, corsair 4x1gb 4-4-4-12 (4gb), xfx gts 8800 320mb XXX edition, seagate sata-3 500 x 5 (2.5 terabyte), 650 watts power suppy, vista 64 or vista 32. I already build same configuration system 6 months back for home pc, only difference is motherboard which was 975 chipset with vista ultimate 64, and i am quite happy with my home pc which is happens to be media center pc also with ati 650 wonder.
intel dp35dp because intel recommand for media center pcs, i figures dvr is kinds of media center. Q6600 is really good for media encoding at really cheap price tag. seagate 4x500gb with raid 0 and 1x500gb for system. haven't decided vista 64 or vista 32 or even xp but kind lean towards 64 bits OS for avoiding 3gb limits on 32bit os.
important one i am making mind between 8 to 12 cams setup, and also atleast 240 fps recording, can't decide avermedia or geovision, i personally had good experince with avermedia's video capturing products. but when i started looking online for dvr cards every where is geovision, so must be good.
please all suggestion are welcome except motherboard nothing else except intel MB. because i had bad experience in past with asus, abit, msi all and quite happy with intel and their support. three years ago they changed my 915 with shipping and new processor without any cost.
CollinR - 08 Oct 2007, 09:34 am
You are way WAY overkill on the specifications.
Intel motherboards are good, stick with that. Find one with ON BOARD video.
Get an E6600 CPU, quad core isn't needed.
1 GB RAM is plenty.
Go Windows XP Pro, Vista isn't ready yet.
Although there are many similarities between a media center or media client PC or theater PC and a CCTV DVR the biggest difference is NO display adapters offer hardware support for the encrypted video decompression. So don't spend the money on a nice video card, it won't be doing much of anything.
I have had much luck with the Intel GMA X3000 onboard graphics.
Geovision vs. Avermedia is a toss up, really depends on your specific requirements as each does certain things better then the other.
ank - 08 Oct 2007, 10:21 am
thanks very much for really really quick reply, you are right, but all of those components doesn't really going to cost to much its under 1000 bucks with case and 20x dvd drive also. i am getting 35% discount from somebody. i will look for mb with integrated graphics. and OS is like i have Vista ultimate lic. copy some where i haven't used yet so.
i really appreciate if you help me decide dvr card for 12 cams with atleast 240 fps with good quality and also which cams i should look for like hi res for outside with night vision etc etc. please collinR
rory - 08 Oct 2007, 12:25 pm
With Geo, the more memory the better, but I just did a system with the Corsair DDR2-800 C4, 2GB Dual Channel, and an E6750, and it was super fast, all that you will ever need for a DVR. So essentially I dont think you need more than 2GB.
The 6750 is actually cheaper than the 6600, and its a faster and cooler CPU . Make sure to turn off the CPU Power thing in the Bios though, or it would run at under 2 ghz most of the time.
All you really need is something like a Sapphire Radeon 1550, its cheap, but has the DVI output you will want for the DVR. If you do use an ATI based card, dont use their drivers, use the Omega drivers.
If you dont need the DVI output (which just gives higher quality LIVE video), then onboard video is fine, at least once its not something like SIS.
Like Colin said, dont use Vista.
In days gone by, Geo would run great on next to nothing, but with versions 8.1+ you need a powerful system now.
JOINDVR - 08 Oct 2007, 12:36 pm
QUOTE:
With Geo, the more memory the better, but I just did a system with the Corsair DDR2-800 C4, 2GB Dual Channel, and an E6750, and it was super fast, all that you will ever need for a DVR. So essentially I dont think you need more than 2GB.
The 6750 is actually cheaper than the 6600, and its a faster and cooler CPU . Make sure to turn off the CPU Power thing in the Bios though, or it would run at under 2 ghz most of the time.
All you really need is something like a Sapphire Radeon 1550, its cheap, but has the DVI output you will want for the DVR. If you do use an ATI based card, dont use their drivers, use the Omega drivers.
If you dont need the DVI output (which just gives higher quality LIVE video), then onboard video is fine, at least once its not something like SIS.
Like Colin said, dont use Vista.
In days gone by, Geo would run great on next to nothing, but with versions 8.1+ you need a powerful system now.
Hi!
Why use Omega drivers instead of ATI Rory?
Also Rory is right about the 8.1+ version, and Geovision have released the product leaflet for 8.2 where they specify that 8.2 will use even more resources if you enable new features like IP cam and Video analytics that will come with 8.2
JD
rory - 08 Oct 2007, 12:44 pm
QUOTE:
Hi!
Why use Omega drivers instead of ATI Rory?
Much faster ..
With the ATI drivers, at least if you want to make any changes to the quality and performance settings, you need that memory hungry catalyst control center which also needs that other system resources hungry .Net.
When tweaking the Windows XP PC for a DVR, there are services I turn off which are typically used by .Net. .Net can run without them, but it fills up the event log. Either way, until Geo starts to use .Net, we dont need it on the DVR. Use Omega and you will be most impressed with how much faster the system will run. Especially useful for the slower 1.8-2.4 Core 2 Duos. ;)
And yes, 7.xx use to take perhaps under 1 minute to start up on my PC here, 8.1+ takes more like 3 minutes and even hangs the PC most of the time. I have a 2.0Ghz AMD. This is not a DVR specific PC though, just my home/development PC ;)
JOINDVR - 08 Oct 2007, 01:56 pm
[quote:1811609c48="rory"]
QUOTE:
Hi!
Why use Omega drivers instead of ATI Rory?
Much faster ..
With the ATI drivers, at least if you want to make any changes to the quality and performance settings, you need that memory hungry catalyst control center which also needs that other system resources hungry .Net.
When tweaking the Windows XP PC for a DVR, there are services I turn off which are typically used by .Net. .Net can run without them, but it fills up the event log. Either way, until Geo starts to use .Net, we dont need it on the DVR. Use Omega and you will be most impressed with how much faster the system will run. Especially useful for the slower 1.8-2.4 Core 2 Duos. ;)
And yes, 7.xx use to take perhaps under 1 minute to start up on my PC here, 8.1+ takes more like 3 minutes and even hangs the PC most of the time. I have a 2.0Ghz AMD. This is not a DVR specific PC though, just my home/development PC ;)
Thanks!
Where can I find the omega drivers for a ATI Radeon X1650 PCI Express card?
And then will I have a test!
I have jsut bought a new Demo & Test PC:
Chieftec BH-02 ATX Medium Tower Sort m/USB, Firewire og Audio, m/400W PSU
Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3R, P35, Socket-775, ATX, GbLAN, DDR2, ICH9R, PCI-Ex16
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHz Socket LGA775, 8MB, BOXED m/vifte
Kingston DDR2 HyperX PC8500 2048MB CL5, Kit w/two matched HyperX 1GB DDR2
Microsoft Windows XP Pro SP2 Eng OEM
NEC DVD-brenner AD-7170S Black OEM SATA
Samsung SpinPoint T166 250GB SATA2 16MB 7200RPM
Samsung SpinPoint T166 500GB SATA2 16MB 7200RPM
Sapphire Radeon X1650PRO 256MB GDDR3, PCI-Express,Tv-Out,2xDVI-I,Lite-Retail
So far it seems ok, only concern is that the 8 SATA slots is/can be in conflict when using GV-2004/GV-2008 and HikVision DS-40XXHC cards.
JD