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f05bf1c2 - 26 Oct 2008, 12:19 pm
hi there, i am going to install 6 PTZ camera in my farm sheds so to monitor the cows when calving. the PTZ cameras would be placed between 50 metres to 150 metres away from the house. my question is what would the best way of getting the signal back to the house? The cables are all going underground. As far as i can see i can either use cat5 of RG59 but i dont no which one would be best? i need to use cat5 in the house as i can hide these easily. the signal needs to be sent to three rooms in the house. If anyone can help me then please get in touch, thanks
jeromephone - 26 Oct 2008, 03:45 pm
depending on what size of conduit it really would not make much difference I would probably run multple runs of cat5 direct bury as that will give you some spares and the baluns are not that much whatever you run make sure it is underground rated as even if you have it in conduit the couduit will get moisture in it and you may soon have problems.
alanjh1965 - 27 Oct 2008, 04:26 am
Another option for you is to install the DVR in the Shed (if there is somewhere suitable)
Most DVR's have a remote Keyboard option where you can control all the functions of the DVR/Dome.
Then in theory all you need to run back is one CAT5 for picture and keyboard data. Althought I would would run a cat5 and RG59 for picture.
Something to think about !
f05bf1c2 - 27 Oct 2008, 01:26 pm
QUOTE:
Another option for you is to install the DVR in the Shed (if there is somewhere suitable)
Most DVR's have a remote Keyboard option where you can control all the functions of the DVR/Dome.
Then in theory all you need to run back is one CAT5 for picture and keyboard data. Althought I would would run a cat5 and RG59 for picture.
Something to think about !
I had a look on ebay and all i could find are DVR with an RS485 output but no input, the only input is through the internet. Im guessing you would need an input from the Keyboard controller so the DVR would change to the channel you choose on the keyboard controller. Have you any idea where i could find a DVR like what your talking about and for ok money? I like your idea as it would save alot of hassle.
wattwire - 27 Oct 2008, 09:32 pm
Question: What about power to the cameras? Can that be done locally or are you going to power them from near the DVR as well?
I usually use a single combination cable that has power + two twisted pair for video and PTZ control. However, I have not seen a direct burial version of this cable so you'd have to use conduit. Perhaps an easier way would be to run two separate cables to the camera--direct burial power (16/2 or 18/2) + direct burial cat5e.
You mentioned that the output had to be piped into 3 separate rooms. Do you need to control the cameras from three separate rooms as well? Whatever you do, don't try to split a single video out (from the DVR or camera) using a simple passive splitter or "T" connector.
-dw
wattwire - 27 Oct 2008, 09:41 pm
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Another option for you is to install the DVR in the Shed (if there is somewhere suitable)
Most DVR's have a remote Keyboard option where you can control all the functions of the DVR/Dome.
Then in theory all you need to run back is one CAT5 for picture and keyboard data. Althought I would would run a cat5 and RG59 for picture.
Something to think about !
I had a look on ebay and all i could find are DVR with an RS485 output but no input, the only input is through the internet. Im guessing you would need an input from the Keyboard controller so the DVR would change to the channel you choose on the keyboard controller. Have you any idea where i could find a DVR like what your talking about and for ok money? I like your idea as it would save alot of hassle.
This is a good idea.
Virtually all DVR have a connectors for RS-485 PTZ control. The wiring is just 2 conductors (1 twisted pair of 24awg networking wire). This will not be an isssue with your DVR. Man, if you're buying 6 PTZs, you should invest in a decent DVR.
alanjh1965 - 28 Oct 2008, 07:14 am
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alanjh1965 - 28 Oct 2008, 07:16 am
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I had a look on ebay and all i could find are DVR with an RS485 output but no input, the only input is through the internet. Im guessing you would need an input from the Keyboard controller so the DVR would change to the channel you choose on the keyboard controller. Have you any idea where i could find a DVR like what your talking about and for ok money? I like your idea as it would save alot of hassle.
I would quote Dedicated Micros as this is what I use when installing PTZ/Domes. You can put the DVR anywhere and the Keyboard can run on a cat5 upto 1KM away ! The Keyboard is fully functional with joystick, you can select single/quad/multi screen, playback, event log. Only drawback is these do hurt the pocket.
You should get some feed back from other Guys who have used a similar set up with a budget DVR. Tying looking at some of the advertisers on this site.
f05bf1c2 - 28 Oct 2008, 08:30 am
QUOTE:
Question: What about power to the cameras? Can that be done locally or are you going to power them from near the DVR as well?
I usually use a single combination cable that has power + two twisted pair for video and PTZ control. However, I have not seen a direct burial version of this cable so you'd have to use conduit. Perhaps an easier way would be to run two separate cables to the camera--direct burial power (16/2 or 18/2) + direct burial cat5e.
You mentioned that the output had to be piped into 3 separate rooms. Do you need to control the cameras from three separate rooms as well? Whatever you do, don't try to split a single video out (from the DVR or camera) using a simple passive splitter or "T" connector.
-dw
yeah i need a keyboard controler in each room, i was hoping to just wire all three controlers into the one set of wires going down to the shed, do you no wheather this will work? Also what would be the best way of displaying the image on all three monitors?
f05bf1c2 - 28 Oct 2008, 08:44 am
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QUOTE:
Another option for you is to install the DVR in the Shed (if there is somewhere suitable)
Most DVR's have a remote Keyboard option where you can control all the functions of the DVR/Dome.
Then in theory all you need to run back is one CAT5 for picture and keyboard data. Althought I would would run a cat5 and RG59 for picture.
Something to think about !
I had a look on ebay and all i could find are DVR with an RS485 output but no input, the only input is through the internet. Im guessing you would need an input from the Keyboard controller so the DVR would change to the channel you choose on the keyboard controller. Have you any idea where i could find a DVR like what your talking about and for ok money? I like your idea as it would save alot of hassle.
This is a good idea.
Virtually all DVR have a connectors for RS-485 PTZ control. The wiring is just 2 conductors (1 twisted pair of 24awg networking wire). This will not be an isssue with your DVR. Man, if you're buying 6 PTZs, you should invest in a decent DVR.
alanjh1965 - 28 Oct 2008, 10:39 am
You could take a look at American Dynamics
You could use a Touch Tracker linked by two wires to their Multiplexer (cheaper than a DVR) which is fully functional and will control pictures. But you will have to use their Domes. £££ $$$
http://americandynamics.net/WebApps/getDocument.aspx?filename=8200-0306-01_C_E.pdf
You can only have two Keyboards though.
wattwire - 28 Oct 2008, 11:29 am
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QUOTE:
Another option for you is to install the DVR in the Shed (if there is somewhere suitable)
Most DVR's have a remote Keyboard option where you can control all the functions of the DVR/Dome.
Then in theory all you need to run back is one CAT5 for picture and keyboard data. Althought I would would run a cat5 and RG59 for picture.
Something to think about !
I had a look on ebay and all i could find are DVR with an RS485 output but no input, the only input is through the internet. Im guessing you would need an input from the Keyboard controller so the DVR would change to the channel you choose on the keyboard controller. Have you any idea where i could find a DVR like what your talking about and for ok money? I like your idea as it would save alot of hassle.
This is a good idea.
Virtually all DVR have a connectors for RS-485 PTZ control. The wiring is just 2 conductors (1 twisted pair of 24awg networking wire). This will not be an isssue with your DVR. Man, if you're buying 6 PTZs, you should invest in a decent DVR.
f05bf1c2 - 28 Oct 2008, 01:51 pm
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QUOTE:
Another option for you is to install the DVR in the Shed (if there is somewhere suitable)
Most DVR's have a remote Keyboard option where you can control all the functions of the DVR/Dome.
Then in theory all you need to run back is one CAT5 for picture and keyboard data. Althought I would would run a cat5 and RG59 for picture.
Something to think about !
I had a look on ebay and all i could find are DVR with an RS485 output but no input, the only input is through the internet. Im guessing you would need an input from the Keyboard controller so the DVR would change to the channel you choose on the keyboard controller. Have you any idea where i could find a DVR like what your talking about and for ok money? I like your idea as it would save alot of hassle.
This is a good idea.
Virtually all DVR have a connectors for RS-485 PTZ control. The wiring is just 2 conductors (1 twisted pair of 24awg networking wire). This will not be an isssue with your DVR. Man, if you're buying 6 PTZs, you should invest in a decent DVR.
wattwire - 28 Oct 2008, 08:24 pm
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QUOTE:
Another option for you is to install the DVR in the Shed (if there is somewhere suitable)
Most DVR's have a remote Keyboard option where you can control all the functions of the DVR/Dome.
Then in theory all you need to run back is one CAT5 for picture and keyboard data. Althought I would would run a cat5 and RG59 for picture.
Something to think about !
I had a look on ebay and all i could find are DVR with an RS485 output but no input, the only input is through the internet. Im guessing you would need an input from the Keyboard controller so the DVR would change to the channel you choose on the keyboard controller. Have you any idea where i could find a DVR like what your talking about and for ok money? I like your idea as it would save alot of hassle.
This is a good idea.
Virtually all DVR have a connectors for RS-485 PTZ control. The wiring is just 2 conductors (1 twisted pair of 24awg networking wire). This will not be an isssue with your DVR. Man, if you're buying 6 PTZs, you should invest in a decent DVR.
wattwire - 28 Oct 2008, 08:42 pm
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QUOTE:
Another option for you is to install the DVR in the Shed (if there is somewhere suitable)
Most DVR's have a remote Keyboard option where you can control all the functions of the DVR/Dome.
Then in theory all you need to run back is one CAT5 for picture and keyboard data. Althought I would would run a cat5 and RG59 for picture.
Something to think about !
I had a look on ebay and all i could find are DVR with an RS485 output but no input, the only input is through the internet. Im guessing you would need an input from the Keyboard controller so the DVR would change to the channel you choose on the keyboard controller. Have you any idea where i could find a DVR like what your talking about and for ok money? I like your idea as it would save alot of hassle.
This is a good idea.
Virtually all DVR have a connectors for RS-485 PTZ control. The wiring is just 2 conductors (1 twisted pair of 24awg networking wire). This will not be an isssue with your DVR. Man, if you're buying 6 PTZs, you should invest in a decent DVR.
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