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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:03 pm
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| http://cctv.files4u.info/ICR_Kand_Front_PTZ.avi |
Blank black screen for me....anybody else?
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:09 pm
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Wow!! There's been aload of talk about this IC realtime dvr..... Got an idea, If anyone has not been satisfied with the performance thus far or has been seeing "green"(green with envy if ya ask me) why not call IC Realtime and take a couple of minutes and have a professional demonstration of the product done with Matt or one of the techs?? We all know there are lots of little issues that contribute to a DVR's performance, so if you've experienced something undesireable call the manufacturer and get it resolved instead of speculating about it. Then make a informed post after you've had the demo. Now don't get me wrong, Constructive criticism is always appreciated and if there is a problem I'm sure ICR would like to know about it as would I...but I think you need to have a demo done for ya to truly appreciate and understand what this product offers.
Just a thought...
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| kandcorp |
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:24 pm
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Blank black screen for me....anybody else? |
No, works fine here. Did you try to save first and then play?
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:36 pm
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I went through the demo and saw the same motion artifacts. It honestly did not look as good as a correctly set up Geo or Aver system.
Now if you are comparing it to other stand alones that are out there, then I would say it compares favorably. Feature wise it is very impressive.
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:51 pm
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Thanks for the honest informed post. This DVR can't be everything to everybody( nor can any dvr being marketed today) but the arguement stands that for the money it is one of the best overall, high performance, advanced feature, and stable dvr 's that we've ever sold. You can't ask for much more than that in todays market.
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 1:01 pm
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| Thanks for the honest informed post. This DVR can't be everything to everybody( nor can any dvr being marketed today) but the arguement stands that for the money it is one of the best overall, high performance, advanced feature, and stable dvr 's that we've ever sold. You can't ask for much more than that in todays market. |
You are welcome. And thanks for the responsive sales pitch. 
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| kandcorp |
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 1:06 pm
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I went through the demo and saw the same motion artifacts. It honestly did not look as good as a correctly set up Geo or Aver system.
Now if you are comparing it to other stand alones that are out there, then I would say it compares favorably. Feature wise it is very impressive. |
What motion artifacts are you in reference to. I see clear fluid movement with no artifacts at all. Have you looked at this clip yet.
http://cctv.files4u.info/ICR_Kand_Front_PTZ.avi
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 1:06 pm
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no prob bob...... 
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 1:56 pm
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The motion artifacts being referred to are if you look anywhere in the video,live or playback where you have vertical or horizontal lines, you will see the artifacts as very light blue/orange hues .
This is mainly typical of all embedded DVR's as they do not have there own graphics card driving the video feeds!
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 4:43 pm
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I went through the demo and saw the same motion artifacts. It honestly did not look as good as a correctly set up Geo or Aver system.
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Well, VJD this is a thread in the Stand Alone Embedded section of this forum. We are not trying to compare to GEO or Avermedia(Totally different world). And look at the cost of a Realtime Geo or Aver DVR with Audio on every channel, comperable in specs, not even close. So having that said, I would like someone to post a clip of a StandAlone DVR or comparison to a S/A DVR that looks better than this unit. I honestly have not seen one,  Especially for the money.
Rory, do you have any clips from the GE dvr's you have used, and love  ?
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 4:53 pm
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Rory, do you have any clips from the GE dvr's you have used, and love ? |
Yes but they are in their format so you need the Player. Their quality at 352x240 is much crisper and distortion free, than the ones you posted, but anything over that becomes more pixelised. On the local monitor though they are clear at full resolution, but then what decent stand alone isnt .. Course i set all my DVRs to highest quality available.
I cant speak for their new Wavejet compression DVRs though, which I believe is probably Jpeg2000, it maybe better in higher res on the PC file, than the Wavelet versions I use/d.
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 5:26 pm
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Post them Rory. As far as the player, let us know where it can be downloaded or host the .exe yourself.
Thanks.
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 5:29 pm
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 5:48 pm
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Ok, thanks. I would definately like to see them.
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ya know talk is cheap and heard alot of talk. And my opinions and rorys and kandcorps and any other "professionals" opinion really does not matter. We can sit here and debate this all day and not make a dime more while we do it. Who's opinion that matters is the person who signs the checks of the people who have recieved our proposals. Ya know I am sure that someone could build a 50,000 dollar machine and blow alll of ours out of the water. And then they would win, right? wrong because we cant sell 50,000 dollar machines to our prospects. So when it is all said and argued and this is still up in the air, who can move the most product? Having the capapbily to be a dealer of a machine wont do you much of good if you cant get people to buy them. So it comes down to Whats The Best Product for what your prospects will say yes at the table for. Man I know for me I sold 11 pro dvr systems without them ever seeing the actual machine. Just saw the remote viewing features and ability to do what fits their needs. That works for me. How are those geovision in comparison to how easily you can sell the average joe on them? I am talking the comparible geovision not the bottom of the dirt barrrel. And today confirmed 9 more systems ( 4 4 channel systems and 3 8 and 1 16) .
If I can keep selling and installing that much solelly based off the way the customers feel of its value, then I will be doing good.
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