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| Jasper |
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Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 3:20 pm
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SpyMan, I think blowrabbit meant that in his case he is going to purchase what he considers the more established brands with a good reputation rather than taking a chance on a miss with some other brands. I'm not saying any of the brands you mentioned are not good.
I think you pretty much summed it best earlier when you said:
"The point? Simple, it shouldn't matter the name brand of the product line you represent, it's your confidence in the gear you promote that will WIN you your customers TRUST and their business.
Unless you dealing with Fortune 500 Security Departments, 99.99 % of your clients will have no idea who Pelco, Sensormatic, Bosch, Sanyo, Mace, IC Real Time, etc are. They are relying on your expert advice to recommend the right product(s) to them based upon individual requirements and their budget requirements."
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| scottj |
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Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 3:27 pm
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Hey Jasp,
How about you put your skirt back in storage and come join Rory and I (among others from the forum) in Vegas?
Scottj
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| Jasper |
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Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 3:53 pm
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| scottj wrote: |
Hey Jasp,
How about you put your skirt back in storage and come join Rory and I (among others from the forum) in Vegas?
Scottj |
I'm broke, don't do this for a living, not near an airport and don't drink. I can be real entertaining sometimes though.It would be nice to meet all of you who would be there, but I really can't make it. Maybe somebody can take pictures, conduct interviews, etc. 
And I refuse to put my skirt in storage.
Thanks for the invite though, very much appreciated. 
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| coolie11 |
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Posts: 140
Joined: 05 Oct 2007
Location: New York
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 4:57 pm
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I really don't see what all the hype is about this DVR.
I just bought the Flex R30 which I received two day's ago, setup wasn't that bad, despite no manual shipped with unit.
Remote view using web browser is terrible, this unit makes my cameras look like toy's, I went from an acceptable picture to a fuzzy day, they all look out of focus now, and at that price I would preffer use an Eyemax.
I mean all I did was move the connections from my existing DVR to this Flex R30.
Now my grass looks like a big fluffy blanket, live view appears to be about 5-7FPS, not to mention the recording.
When I view the DVR over IE it locks up when I switch between live, Playback and setup.
Forget about the remote client, this one makes Samsung look really good right now.
I was told by my sales guy that this unit records all 16 Channels @30FPS @ Full D1, the only thing he said was that I would only be able to view 4 Cameras at a time in real time on playback, which I really don't mind, when I set the unit to D1 the max FPS is 7.
Now I just tried setting the unit to record on motion, forget it, I'm tiried of this unit already and I've only been running it for about four hour's now.
I could never recomend this unit to any of my clients.
Sorry to say, but this unit really suck's right now, I'm really hopping It's user error based on all the positive feedback on this forum.
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| scorpion |
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Posts: 2972
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Location: Melbourne Florida
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 5:59 pm
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I am an AVTech guy myself, and I have sold some ICRealtime units, but what you are describing is not an ICRealtime.
I am curious as to where you bought it?
If you do not have a clear video over the internet then something is really wrong, and I mean really really wrong.
My first thought when you said that you have a poor video over the internet is that you do not have an ICRealtime machine.
I could see where a mistake has been made of some sort in the chain, and you end up with a Flex, rather than an FlexR30, and mistakes can happen, and Lord knows I make enough of them to make my distributor double check my needs!
I hope I am not sticking my head out too far, but I will stand behind ICRealtime.
Do you have an 8, or a 16, or a 32?
If I pay for the shipping will you send it to me?? I really want to take a look at this. I wonder if this might be a knock off!
SPECIFICATIONS
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ICR 4/8/16 FLEX SERIES
FLEX 4 R30
FLEX 8 R30
FLEX 16 R30
Main Board Processor
AMD SC1200/266 Multi-Media microprocessor
Video Processor
Philips Tri-media video processor
Operation System
Embedded LINUX
Video Input
4 Channel Input
8 Channel
16 Channel
Video Input Signal
NTSC/PAL, BNC (1.0Vp-p,75 Ohms)
Video Output
1 Channel PAL/NTSC, BNC video signal (1.0Vp-p, 75Ohms) video signal, 1 Channel VGA output (Computer Monitor)
Video Display Mode
1,4 windows
1,4,9 windows
1,4,9,16 windows
Audio Input
4 Channel Input
8 channel
16 Channel
Audio Input Signal
20-3000mv, 10,000 Ohms (BNC)
Audio Output
1 Channel Output, 20-3000mv, 1000 Ohms (RCA)
Video Standard
NTSC (525 line, 60f/s), PAL (625 line, 50 f/s)
System Resource
Triplex operations: recording, one channel playback, network real-time monitor, network playback simultaneously
Image Resolution
Live View 704x480(NTSC) 704x576(PAL),
Playback 704x480, 352x240(NTSC) ; 352x288, 704x576(PAL)
VGA output 704x480(NTSC) 704x576(PAL)
Motion Detection
Area setting: 192 detection areas on the screen; detection sense setting: 3 levels detection sense for e/area
Video Compression
MPEG-4 CBR (fixed frame rate) / MPEG-4 VBR (variable frame rate) / MPEG4 Part 10 (H.264)
Audio Compression
ADPCM G.723 8K
Video Recording Speed
1-30(NTSC) 1-25(PAL) fp/s Variable per channel
Total Recording Speed
120 FPS (4)
240 FPS [8]
480 FPS(16)
Image Quality
6 Levels selectable
Hard Disk
4 IDE ports, Total 8 Devices, Upto 4-Terabyte internal storage; External Raid storage can be expanded to 8-Terabyte.
Buili-in CD/DVD Burner
Optional SONY CD-RW/DVR-RW Burner
USB Port
Built-in USB1.1 port supports USB mouse, USB Flash, USB Harddrives and USB CD/DVD burners.
Alarm Ports
3 channels output, output in open/close contact (the third channel is controllable +12V output); 8 Channels input.
Alarm Relay
30VDC 1A, 125 VAC 0.5A (relay output)
Network Connection
RJ45 10M/100M Ethernet connection
Modem Connection
RS232
Pan-tilt Control
RS485
Power
110VAC 60Hz / 220VAC 50Hz
Power Consumption
25Watt (w/o HD)
40Watt (w/o HD)
40Watt (w/o HD)
Working Temperature
-10°C ~ +55°C (
Working Humidity
10% - 90%
Barometric Pressure
86kpa - 106kpa
Size
2U standard industrial case, 17.4”(lenght) x 16.9”(depth) x 3.5”(height)
Weight
25 LB (w/o HD)
27 LB (w/o HD)
27 LB (w/o HD)
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http://scorpiontheater.com/troubleshooting.aspx
http://scorpiontheater.com/contactus.aspx
QUESTION: Why is there always enough time to go back and fix it right a second time??
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| coolie11 |
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Posts: 140
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 8:27 pm
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It's an icrealtime Flex R30.
I bought it from the manufacturer.
This is the discription from the invoice:-
1 DVR FLEX16E H.264E 16-CH FLEX R-30 REALTIME SERIES DVR W/BUILT
IN DVD BURNER 480FPS/480FPS, SATAHARD DRIVES
1 250G SATA250GB SATA HARD DRIVE
And this is what it looks like.
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| coolie11 |
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Posts: 140
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Location: New York
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 8:40 pm
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This unit really behaves funny.
If I login, look around for a while then log out and try to log back in it says The User Has Logged In and I'm not able to do anything.
Before when i tried to change the rights of the user group it gave me some message about I don't have right, even tough I'm logged in as admin.
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| scorpion |
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Posts: 2972
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
Location: Melbourne Florida
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 8:42 pm
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| coolie11 |
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Posts: 140
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 8:48 pm
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No.
The unit came in on Wednesday and I've been in the field for some long hours.
I basically do most of my testing on the weekends unless I have time during the week.
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| ak357 |
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Posts: 317
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 8:53 pm
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| coolie11 wrote: |
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I bought it from the manufacturer.
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ICrealtime are not manufacturer 
unit made in china
u want me to give adress ?
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| coolie11 |
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:13 pm
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Well I called them up after reading all the good post in this forum about there equipment and they said that they manufactured there equipment and that the founder of the company was some guy who is involved in the development of new technology for CCTV.
He went on to say a whole lot more ear candy, then we did a remote demo for which he insisted I used the DVR Manager Center and not the Client Software or the Web Browser even tough I mentioned that I will like to demo the unit the same way my customers will be using it which is mainly through a Web Browser which is a high point of the sale.
"REMOTE MONITORING FROM ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD."
'As long as you have a Computer and High speed Internet.'
So I gave in and ordered a Demo. My exact words was I will like to Demo the best unit you have to offer.
He told me about the Flex R-30M which is the R-30 with built in matrix.
Even tough he didn't send the unit I ordered I really didn't mind, since I was so excited to finally have put my hands on a "Full D1 30Fps Per Channel DVR I just couldn't wait to take it out and set it up.
The really mest up part of this, is that I stayed home to setup this unit and missed my sons game and had a little fight with the wife about it
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| ak357 |
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:31 pm
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| coolie11 wrote: |
Well I called them up after reading all the good post in this forum about there equipment and they said that they manufactured there equipment and that the founder of the company was some guy who is involved in the development of new technology for CCTV.
He went on to say a whole lot more ear candy, then we did a remote demo for which he insisted I used the DVR Manager Center and not the Client Software or the Web Browser even tough I mentioned that I will like to demo the unit the same way my customers will be using it which is mainly through a Web Browser which is a high point of the sale.
"REMOTE MONITORING FROM ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD."
'As long as you have a Computer and High speed Internet.'
So I gave in and ordered a Demo. My exact words was I will like to Demo the best unit you have to offer.
He told me about the Flex R-30M which is the R-30 with built in matrix.
Even tough he didn't send the unit I ordered I really didn't mind, since I was so excited to finally have put my hands on a "Full D1 30Fps Per Channel DVR I just couldn't wait to take it out and set it up.
The really mest up part of this, is that I stayed home to setup this unit and missed my sons game and had a little fight with the wife about it |
this is pix of model which according to true manufacturer should give D1
res at all 16 ch real time
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| coolie11 |
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:43 pm
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This is my first time with this brand and all I know is what I was told and what was sent.
I only choose this unit because of the great feedback from here.
I've been using Open Eye for almost 5 Yrs with no issues, Eyemax for 3 Yrs with some issues, Everfocus poor quality, Samsung Poor Quality, and the list goes on and on and on and on and on and on .....
Originally started out with Bosch and Pelco System's but straid away because of pricing.
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| scorpion |
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Posts: 2972
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:57 pm
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| coolie11 wrote: |
Camera 1 & 2 is 480 tvl Day/Night Panasonics which i know ain't that great, they are just there because they were sitting in my garrage.
Camera 4 is a 380tvl 12 IR I had about 4 years now and it's up for the same reason.
Camera 3 is a KT&C KPC-N700NH Day/Night Integrated Camera 550TV Lines 48IR LEDs which I know give and exceptionally great picture with my Eyemax. |
The video looked good over the internet from what I saw.
I took some screen shots but I will not post them without permission due to security concerns.
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Scorpion
http://scorpiontheater.com/troubleshooting.aspx
http://scorpiontheater.com/contactus.aspx
QUESTION: Why is there always enough time to go back and fix it right a second time??
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| coolie11 |
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:00 pm
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