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Post Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:59 pm     Post subject: IP panel-free access control
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http://www.isonas.com/




Anyone using their products? This stuff looks like it is alot easier to install then panel based systems. Hell one of their products is P.O.E. ready and you can use it to power the locks, that's alot less wiring.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSed2K4BMuY

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Post Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:48 pm     Post subject:
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pelco has an Ip system but have not used it. SOme locking systems use more power than a poe system can supply.
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Post Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 6:44 pm     Post subject:
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i have used the HID Edge stuff and it works great
but i think im gonna take a good look at isonas i think i like thier software better
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Post Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 11:32 am     Post subject:
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I just ordered one of there Powernet readers with a keypad to test. I have a 2 door install I would like to use this system on.
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Post Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 1:51 pm     Post subject:
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For a two door system I would recommend this:

http://eclipsecctv.com/ECL-ACC950_door_controller.html


CLICK ON WIRING DIAGRAM AND LOOK AT THE BOTTOM RIGHT OF THE PAGE.
http://scorpiontheater.com/access.aspx
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Post Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 6:21 pm     Post subject:
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scorpion wrote:
For a two door system I would recommend this:

http://eclipsecctv.com/ECL-ACC950_door_controller.html


CLICK ON WIRING DIAGRAM AND LOOK AT THE BOTTOM RIGHT OF THE PAGE.
http://scorpiontheater.com/access.aspx


Looks like a nice product but I like Isonas because we are keeping everything IP based.
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Post Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 11:41 pm     Post subject:
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The PowerNet reader with keypad came today. Very cool product. Very easy to install when using a strike. Run one cat5 to the reader then splice the strike to the wire pigtale. Alot less wire and labor.

The software is very powerful but unless your using it everyday you would need to keep the manual handy and your normal person would have a hard time rappin there head around it.

They need to make there software more end user friendly other wise it is a great product.

I was on the phone with there tech support for about 2 hours very helpful I enjoyed talking with them.

I think with this product I could do the same install as a panel system ( talking strikes) for hundreds less per door.
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Post Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 1:58 am     Post subject:
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I was on the phone again with Isonas tech support. Everything is running perfect I just had some questions about the software and I didn't feel like reading the manual. Once again I was one the phone for about an hour and I think I made a friend. I will sell this product and put my name behind it.

I also found out you can power maglocks with POE. The POE output for mags/strikes is 12 volt min .5amps you even have power left over for the REX motion and/or lighted REX button.

I found many maglocks that use less then .5amps even 1600lb ones.
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Post Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 7:39 pm     Post subject:
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I did not know that you could run that much power from a poe system. Does anyone know if you can run like a double latch retraction device with POE?
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Post Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:25 pm     Post subject:
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jeromephone wrote:
I did not know that you could run that much power from a poe system. Does anyone know if you can run like a double latch retraction device with POE?


Isonas can power anything 12dc up to .5 amps
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Post Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:27 pm     Post subject:
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jeromephone wrote:
I did not know that you could run that much power from a poe system. Does anyone know if you can run like a double latch retraction device with POE?


Clause 33 of IEEE 802.3-2005 (commonly referred to as IEEE 802.3af)

selectable current of 10–400 mA subject to a maximum load power of 15.40 W.
Only about 12.95 W are available after counting cable losses
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Post Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:32 pm     Post subject:
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jeromephone wrote:
I did not know that you could run that much power from a poe system. Does anyone know if you can run like a double latch retraction device with POE?


Clause 33 of IEEE 802.3-2005 (commonly referred to as IEEE 802.3af)

selectable current of 10–400 mA subject to a maximum load power of 15.40 W.
Only about 12.95 W are available after counting cable losses


Isonas told me there is 1amp total power available for power.

He said the the reader uses .2amps, strikes/mags can use no more then .5amps, and the left over .3 is used to power motions, REX buttons, and anything else you would need.

I have one reader installed in my office for about 2 weeks with a strike. I haven't had any problems at all. Great product
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