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DVR MAN



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Post Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 4:59 pm     Post subject:
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whitemotel wrote:
sweet....ill def do that....

you guys have been a great help.......


oh yeah, does anybody know why my bullet camera fried when i plugged it in?


I bet that if you read the install manual, you will see 12 to 24 Volt DC !
I have seen 12-24 volt AC cameras. I have seen 12 Volt DC, or 24 Volt AC. I have also seen cameras state 12-24 volt DC in spec's, then when you read the whole manual you may find that that particular model is only 12 OR 24 volt DC. Please check before smoking another camera. Good luck! Shocked
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Post Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:50 pm     Post subject:
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I normally use the same 2.1mm connector to power up either 24vac or 12vdc cameras. On the box-type cameras, I put the pigtail end on the camera. I ALWAYS hang my Fluke Voltohmeter right next to the camera , and check incoming voltage before putting camera to the test. On 12vdc cameras, the center of the plug is always "positive" DC. My Fluke is a model 322, which has a "clamp around" feature, for when I am checking amp draw. The clamping feature works on just about anything to hold it while I read the display.
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Post Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:21 pm     Post subject:
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yeah, i actually read the manual, but not too familiar with "power"...the manual says accepts DC 12V/AC 24V......but something went wrong with i powered it up to the power supply.....

i do have a multimeter but dont have a manual for it.....its a greenlee digital multimeter...can i test the volts or whatever to see if its really 12 volts of power the power supply is pushing out?
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Post Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:34 pm     Post subject:
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You don't need to. Here's the specs for the unit you're using.


ALTV2416ULCBX
UL/CUL Listed CCTV AC Wall Mount 16 Output Power Supply

Overview
Model ALTV2416ULCBX provides 24VAC distributed viasixteen (16) PTC protected outputs
.

Agency Listings
• UL Listed for Commercial CCTV Equipment (UL2044)
• CUL Listed - CSA Standard C22.2 No.I-98, Audio, Video
and Similar Equipment
File # E148639.
• CE Approved.

Features/Specifications
• 24VAC output.
• 7 amp (175VA) supply current.
• Sixteen (16) PTC protected outputs.
• Output PTCs are rated @ 2.5 amp.
• 115VAC 50/60Hz, 1.8 amp input.
• In-line fuses are rated @ 3.5 amp.
• Surge suppression.
• AC power LED indicator.
• Power ON/OFF switch
• Unit maintains camera synchronization.
• Lifetime Warranty.

Enclosure
• Dimensions: 13”H x 13.5 ”W x 3.5”D.
• 1/2" and 3/4" combination knockouts.

Applications
• 24VAC power for CCTV cameras, heaters, and other video accessories.
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Post Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:11 pm     Post subject:
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well...two cameras gone...one left....tried to hook up the camera again to the power supply....its zapped it.....either i have a really cheap camera or my power supply is pushing too much power
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Post Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:19 pm     Post subject:
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Dude post the model of your camera, or the exact specs.

Scan and post the spec sheet.

Provide a link to the product info.

I'm truly believing you have DC Cameras not AC/DC Cameras/
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Post Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:22 pm     Post subject:
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Post a picture of your exact hookup.
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Post Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:27 pm     Post subject:
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here is the spec to the camera...

http://www.acesuppliers.com/Supplier_Company/Bullet-Miniature-Camera_Product_Showroom_43077.html
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Post Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:33 pm     Post subject:
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If this is the camera

"Bullet Miniature Camera(TS-1822)"

Sorry to say, You did fry them.

The specs clearly state's

Power supply: 12V DC, ¡À10% and 120mA
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Post Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:35 pm     Post subject:
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I'm sure these use a 3.5mm plug for power, which is used by most DC Cameras.

And I sure hope you didn't buy them from flebay.
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Post Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:42 pm     Post subject:
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damn....check this out....i scanned the manual...i guess the manual gave me the wrong spec...

is there anyway i can use the power supply for that last camera i have?

unable to attach pic...check it out on my webserver: www.beatmanproductions.com/pic.jpg
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Post Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:50 pm     Post subject:
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no, didnt by them on ebay....bought them from a website from china...i sent them an email saying they went bad....they say i have a one year warranty...we will see...
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Post Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:26 pm     Post subject:
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As an installer, you really need to get familiar with the volt/ohm meter. Probably the most used troublsehooting device. Voltage and resistance/continuity make a big difference in any installation.
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Post Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:33 pm     Post subject:
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Power supplies do not "push" out amperage. Your devices (cameras, DVR's, etc) "draw " amperage. Again, amperage is based on resistance. I always try to use the largest ( in terms of VA) power supplies. VA= Volt Amperes. Motors, lights,coils, etc. etc, use different amperage (current) based on this resistance. Don't purchase cheap meters. Buy one decent volt/ohm meter that will last you a lifetime.
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Post Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:55 pm     Post subject:
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If that is the manual that came with that camera, then something went wrong some where.

That manual is far a Box/Brick type camera like the one below.

The camera you provided the link to would of had to look something like the bullet .jpg.

Hope your warranty works out.

Are you an installer, or hobbyist.

I suggest you make this site and google your personal friends, and use all the spare time you have to read, read, read,.

Don't be disappointed we all went through some sort of setback at start up.
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