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| coolie11 |
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:03 pm
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I bought it from the manufacturer.
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ICrealtime are not manufacturer 
unit made in china
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| scorpion |
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Location: Melbourne Florida
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:11 pm
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| ak357 |
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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 12:47 am
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| coolie11 wrote: |
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I bought it from the manufacturer.
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ICrealtime are not manufacturer
unit made in china
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Yes please. |
check your inbox plz
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| coolie11 |
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Posts: 90
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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:00 pm
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Look at these images.
Same Camera, around the same time, different DVR.
Both DVR's set to record D1 @7fps.
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| coolie11 |
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:44 am
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Have you guy's noticed the use of resources on the local machine while remote viewing the Flex R-30.
If I use IE to remote monitor my machine freezes if I try to monitor more than 7 channels, I've noticed my CPU usage sky rocket with each channel I add to monitor. Same with the manager center except for the freezing.
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| securitysys |
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Posts: 102
Joined: 01 Jan 2008
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 12:04 pm
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| ak357 wrote: |
| coolie11 wrote: |
| ak357 wrote: |
| coolie11 wrote: |
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I bought it from the manufacturer.
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ICrealtime are not manufacturer
unit made in china
u want me to give adress ? |
Yes please. |
check your inbox plz |
I almost chopped my LCD screen in half because of your avatar!
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| ak357 |
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Posts: 243
Joined: 16 Nov 2005
Location: Canada
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 7:49 pm
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| securitysys wrote: |
| ak357 wrote: |
| coolie11 wrote: |
| ak357 wrote: |
| coolie11 wrote: |
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I bought it from the manufacturer.
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ICrealtime are not manufacturer
unit made in china
u want me to give adress ? |
Yes please. |
check your inbox plz |
I almost chopped my LCD screen in half because of your avatar! |
hope u like it
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| danweber |
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Posts: 30
Joined: 29 Dec 2005
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 8:48 am
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Does anyone one know for sure if the ICRealtime Pro does D1 recording, and at what fps?
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| scorpion |
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Location: Melbourne Florida
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:26 pm
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Yes, it records at D1, and it records at 30 fps.
Menu > Camera
scroll down, and you should see resolution
Use your arrow buttons to make changes
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Old remote viewer
http://www.icrealtime.com/docs/RemoteClientManual.pdf
Log in as Admin
The second icon looks like two gears Network Parameter
(Remote System Parameter Config)
host system setup
camera tab
resolution (settings)
This should give you a new window where you can set each camera.
There is a pull down for each camera.
Now you can change your resolution.
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Select "full" for 30 fps
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Scorpion
http://scorpiontheater.com/troubleshooting.aspx
http://scorpiontheater.com/nubix4st.aspx
QUESTION: Why is there always enough time to go back and fix it right a second time??
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| danweber |
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:30 am
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Hmmm. I don't have that option
Menu -> Camera and I get the screen below
Below is the version I have
I do have the option in the newest NetViewer I downloaded but the recording is always the same, regardless of the setting.
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:38 am
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| cctvintegration |
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Joined: 27 Aug 2008
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:26 am
Post subject: ICRealtime Quality Vs. Mace Quality
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For the record, both ICRealtime and Mace sell the identical, exact, precise DVR line. They both come from the same manufacturer in Hangzhou , China. The only difference is they use different cases to distinguish themselves apart from one another. In fact, ICRealtime is ran by former Mace folks. Not saying thats good or bad, just stating facts. I was reading ridiculous posts as folks were critical of one model, and praised another. Knowing, both are the same units made me laugh uncontrollably.
I am further amazed at how cctv companies equate price with quality. That is a huge error in judgment.
I've installed Argus JPEG2000 units much to my disappointment, and paid a pretty penny for Geovision cards that simply are over rated and over priced. My DM units were the most expensive sold, certainly not the most powerful or reliable. Not too mention, a saturated product with no separation for resellers and installers to ever actually make a profit.
Not picking on anyone, but can we all agree that 99% of these embedded DVR, and PCI cards are all coming out of China as Korea collapses under Chinas cost structure? My current distributor in the midwest is awesome, but!!!! they are just like everyone else, they import, slap a name on a unit, and pretend they are a brand. Dont mean that in a negative way, all companies do it including Pelco now. Be careful everyone, I have learned a very expensive lesson last few years, PRICE MEANS NOTHING!!!!
I'm making great money now even in this economy we're in. My products are damn reliable, and about half the cost of what I was paying in previous times.
Someone please offer me an argument as to why pricing on dvr and also PTZ is so out of whack? I paid 1299 dollars for the exact same DVR (different nameplate of course) as my recent purchase of 545.00????????
Help me grasp this industry guys. How can this stuff happen? Both claimed to be exclusive, both used unique brands, but inside, clearly, these two units were the same overseas manufacturer, spec, and every single chip the same.
I guess it takes years to find the fairest distributor out there. I wish distributors had to bid, had to install, and could understand how competitive our market is. When I win a bid, I normally am against five other installation companies. Spec, warranty, and a darn good price wins the business.
As for my original posting of ICRealtime vs. Mace. I respect both companies, I respect anyone in this tough industry, but I stand behind my comments. Both are merely another Overseas built DVR with different front panels. As for pelco's fantastic monitors, they're simply a Taiwan (HiSharp) same as tons of ebay models, same EXACT monitor, with a name glued on the front. I wish I had a million dollars, I'd call China and buy, and glue my name on the front and charge (overcharge) installers and hope for the same (that everyone equates a high price to high quality) Actually, I'm too darn nice to do that. Best of luck everyone.
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| ilkevinli |
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Joined: 05 Feb 2008
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:58 pm
Post subject: Re: ICRealtime Quality Vs. Mace Quality
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Wow !!! An honest post from a dealer. I love it. Thanks for posting !
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For the record, both ICRealtime and Mace sell the identical, exact, precise DVR line. They both come from the same manufacturer in Hangzhou , China. The only difference is they use different cases to distinguish themselves apart from one another. In fact, ICRealtime is ran by former Mace folks. Not saying thats good or bad, just stating facts. I was reading ridiculous posts as folks were critical of one model, and praised another. Knowing, both are the same units made me laugh uncontrollably.
I am further amazed at how cctv companies equate price with quality. That is a huge error in judgment.
I've installed Argus JPEG2000 units much to my disappointment, and paid a pretty penny for Geovision cards that simply are over rated and over priced. My DM units were the most expensive sold, certainly not the most powerful or reliable. Not too mention, a saturated product with no separation for resellers and installers to ever actually make a profit.
Not picking on anyone, but can we all agree that 99% of these embedded DVR, and PCI cards are all coming out of China as Korea collapses under Chinas cost structure? My current distributor in the midwest is awesome, but!!!! they are just like everyone else, they import, slap a name on a unit, and pretend they are a brand. Dont mean that in a negative way, all companies do it including Pelco now. Be careful everyone, I have learned a very expensive lesson last few years, PRICE MEANS NOTHING!!!!
I'm making great money now even in this economy we're in. My products are damn reliable, and about half the cost of what I was paying in previous times.
Someone please offer me an argument as to why pricing on dvr and also PTZ is so out of whack? I paid 1299 dollars for the exact same DVR (different nameplate of course) as my recent purchase of 545.00????????
Help me grasp this industry guys. How can this stuff happen? Both claimed to be exclusive, both used unique brands, but inside, clearly, these two units were the same overseas manufacturer, spec, and every single chip the same.
I guess it takes years to find the fairest distributor out there. I wish distributors had to bid, had to install, and could understand how competitive our market is. When I win a bid, I normally am against five other installation companies. Spec, warranty, and a darn good price wins the business.
As for my original posting of ICRealtime vs. Mace. I respect both companies, I respect anyone in this tough industry, but I stand behind my comments. Both are merely another Overseas built DVR with different front panels. As for pelco's fantastic monitors, they're simply a Taiwan (HiSharp) same as tons of ebay models, same EXACT monitor, with a name glued on the front. I wish I had a million dollars, I'd call China and buy, and glue my name on the front and charge (overcharge) installers and hope for the same (that everyone equates a high price to high quality) Actually, I'm too darn nice to do that. Best of luck everyone. |
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| securitysys |
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:01 am
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At the same time we need to cut the distributors some slack. Distribution is a very tough market, and most of them don't make as much money as one would think. Any decent distributor works off 20 points or less, which sometimes can be difficult when you can imagine the overhead (advertising, sales, warehouse, etc.). They also give alot of their dealers Net 30, Net 60, and even Net 90, which unfortunatelly, usually leads to a lot of defaults. This all has to be factored into their cost of business. I know a small distributor thats owed a couple hundred thousand by a few different dealers, they'll probably never be able to collect that money.
Remember, if their business was that profitable, and was that easy, everyone would open the same exact business. In this country, money is not an issue, if a business is making money, wether it costs $10 or $10 Billion you can be damn sure that someone else well be opening next door as soon as they find out.
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| bricor |
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:01 am
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Care to share what dvr you got for $545?
| cctvintegration wrote: |
For the record, both ICRealtime and Mace sell the identical, exact, precise DVR line. They both come from the same manufacturer in Hangzhou , China. The only difference is they use different cases to distinguish themselves apart from one another. In fact, ICRealtime is ran by former Mace folks. Not saying thats good or bad, just stating facts. I was reading ridiculous posts as folks were critical of one model, and praised another. Knowing, both are the same units made me laugh uncontrollably.
I am further amazed at how cctv companies equate price with quality. That is a huge error in judgment.
I've installed Argus JPEG2000 units much to my disappointment, and paid a pretty penny for Geovision cards that simply are over rated and over priced. My DM units were the most expensive sold, certainly not the most powerful or reliable. Not too mention, a saturated product with no separation for resellers and installers to ever actually make a profit.
Not picking on anyone, but can we all agree that 99% of these embedded DVR, and PCI cards are all coming out of China as Korea collapses under Chinas cost structure? My current distributor in the midwest is awesome, but!!!! they are just like everyone else, they import, slap a name on a unit, and pretend they are a brand. Dont mean that in a negative way, all companies do it including Pelco now. Be careful everyone, I have learned a very expensive lesson last few years, PRICE MEANS NOTHING!!!!
I'm making great money now even in this economy we're in. My products are damn reliable, and about half the cost of what I was paying in previous times.
Someone please offer me an argument as to why pricing on dvr and also PTZ is so out of whack? I paid 1299 dollars for the exact same DVR (different nameplate of course) as my recent purchase of 545.00????????
Help me grasp this industry guys. How can this stuff happen? Both claimed to be exclusive, both used unique brands, but inside, clearly, these two units were the same overseas manufacturer, spec, and every single chip the same.
I guess it takes years to find the fairest distributor out there. I wish distributors had to bid, had to install, and could understand how competitive our market is. When I win a bid, I normally am against five other installation companies. Spec, warranty, and a darn good price wins the business.
As for my original posting of ICRealtime vs. Mace. I respect both companies, I respect anyone in this tough industry, but I stand behind my comments. Both are merely another Overseas built DVR with different front panels. As for pelco's fantastic monitors, they're simply a Taiwan (HiSharp) same as tons of ebay models, same EXACT monitor, with a name glued on the front. I wish I had a million dollars, I'd call China and buy, and glue my name on the front and charge (overcharge) installers and hope for the same (that everyone equates a high price to high quality) Actually, I'm too darn nice to do that. Best of luck everyone. |
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