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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:54 pm
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| Gesualdo wrote: |
 old location view
 new view daytime
 new location changeover
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Photo #2 indicates good lighting and full color. No problem except maybe a little out of focus.
Photo #3 indicates good switching of the IR Cut Filter to B&W Mode. Probably dusk. Still, a little out of focus but otherwise good.
If Photo #4 is a photo of the same shot as #2 & #3, then you have absolutely Zero IR illumination or absolutely Zero Camera sensitivity at your IR Illumination bandwidth.
I'd try external 850 nm IR illumination and external 940 nm IR illumination sources if possible. That is such a close shot, that any illumination or sensitivity at the proper bandwidth would reflect greatly and show a much more detailed shot than the "Stucco Wall" image that you posted.
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| Gesualdo |
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:17 pm
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yeah All picture are from the same camera and your assessment of time was correct. The ir on the camera is visible (barely) on a cell phone camera. I am hoping to adjust the ir output (if possible). I hung a droplight with a 75 watt bulb out an attic window and it cleared up the image. shouldn't the IR from the 18 LED's be enough in this situation, if adjusted correctly?
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Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:01 pm
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| Gesualdo wrote: |
| yeah All picture are from the same camera and your assessment of time was correct. The ir on the camera is visible (barely) on a cell phone camera. I am hoping to adjust the ir output (if possible). I hung a droplight with a 75 watt bulb out an attic window and it cleared up the image. shouldn't the IR from the 18 LED's be enough in this situation, if adjusted correctly? |
At that distance, only a few L.E.D.s should suffice. Illuminating the area at night with visible light really doesn't tell you anything - you already know that the camera functions well in the visible spectrum.
Definitely try to adjust the IR output. Then, what I'd try next:
1. If you have a camcorder with NightShot, take it outside and point it toward the middle of your brick sidewalk and either have someone watching the monitor or review the recording of your CCTV Camera. If you see detail, then you know your camera is sensitive to IR illumination. Something must be wrong with your IR LEDs. Maybe low amperage, maybe an open in the LED circuitry portion of your camera.
2. Take a few remote controls (television, VCR, DVD, etc...) and press buttons, aiming at the same area - look for the same results.
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| Gesualdo |
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:59 pm
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HELP!!!
It has been several days and several attempts to sove the problem. I have adjusted the ir sensitivity control from one end of the adjuster to the other with no change. Took it down and bench tested ir and the dial doesn't change anything. the IR work but seems to stay the same no matter what I do and it's way to low for my small 8x12 cluttered workshop no matter what setting. I am now going to send it back for repair. I will then keep it as a spare.
I really need a good suggestion for a bullet camera to replace it, with comparable specs if possible. less expensive prefered.
To refresh everyones memory, I am going to be replacing an extreme EX40MNX day night camera.
Spec page: http://www.extremecctv.com/pdf/productspecsheets/EX40N_TS_080101.pdf
in this area: 8'wide x 20' long
I am considering the Speco HEAT series
Please help
Thanks,
Gesualdo
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Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 6:08 pm
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should I stick with extreme and go with EX27, or go with speco ht-7715, or the eclipse ecl598him or some other camera? suggestions please
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| rory |
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Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 6:58 pm
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save your money, just get a "True" Day Night bullet, any OEM brand, they are basically all the same. Otherwise try the EX82 
In fact, if all you are looking at is that in the picture above, then a Color IR camera should suffice.
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Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 7:37 pm
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 Ex82 replaced this ex40 out in front of the property covering the stairs and cars and have another out back. yeah, this is all it has to look at. I wasn't worried too much about it until I just had word that some less than desirable neighbors are moving in next door and will be parking in the driveway that is picked up in the edge of camera view. That is the only reason for putting a camera on this side and over this entry gate. I have another ex40 covering the front entry for close ups and front yard view with the ex82.
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Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 8:06 pm
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Oh, and have the sm1 mic on the front door with cam 1 ex82 view.
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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:10 pm
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is the CB-SD3895N-L overkill for this spot? I like the reviews but think the ir will be too much. Any specific less expensive camera suggestions you can recommend. temp maybe perminent replacement for above site.
Based on the information given in this thread, What do you think the guestimated repair for the EX40 should be? What is the warrantee period? I thought it was 5 yrs but the website says 2 yrs. I have had it just over 2 yrs and will probably wind up paying for it.
Thanks
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:03 pm
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no guesses or other specific camera suggestions?
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:28 pm
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:13 pm
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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 7:50 pm
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well... it's been a while...
I took the camera down. contacted Spytown, where I purchased it, and found out it was indeed off warrantee. However, Lori from Spytown, took it upon herself to contacted Extreme for me and made arrangements to have it sent in for estimate for repair. I was directed to send it to Extreme directly and Spytown did all the calling to follow up on repairs and details about problem. When Lori from Spytown called to inform me of the charge and confirm the repair was to cost $220. and Extreme wanted the money upfront. Now, I am not one to use my credit card online and seldom use it on the phone. Actually, my purchases with them were paid with personal checks only. Understandng this she arranged payment of Extreme's bill to have the repair expedited and I could send them the payment after I received the camera back from Extreme and invoiced. I immediately cut a check to Spytown.
I just received the camera today and will set it up on the bench tonight and mount it tomorrow. Picture to follow.
I can not praise Spytown's service enough and have to say that Howard has a HUGE asset in customer service in Lori. She should get a raise.
Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU
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Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:08 pm
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OK. installed it yesterday and unfortunately there is no change in the night picture. still goes to same black snowy picture. How many led does it take to light up a 15X20 space outdoors? there are 18 on the camera and 4 are prtially covered by the side of the dome.
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Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:11 pm
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OK. installed it yesterday and unfortunately there is no change in the night picture. still goes to same black snowy picture. How many led does it take to light up a 15X20 space outdoors? there are 18 on the camera and 4 are prtially covered by the side of the dome.
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