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 Post subject: Question about recording quality: D1, 720p, 1080p
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 10:30 pm 
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I'm very green to CCTV, but with the research I've done, it seems D1 is the best quality most DVRs can record. My understanding is D1 is 704 X 480. On YouTube I see video from security cameras that are in 720p - 1080p. Are they using a NVR to get this quality?

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If most analog DVR's can only record up to 480 lines, what is the reason to get a camera better than 480TVLs if you don't plan to watch it live? Am I not understanding something?

I see a lot of pictures comparing 400TVL cameras to 600TVL cameras, but I'm not understanding how they are able to get the 600TVL images when using a DVR that records at D1.

Can someone please help shine some light on this topic for me. Thanks!


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 Post subject: Re: Question about recording quality: D1, 720p, 1080p
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 10:46 pm 
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ConstantChange wrote:
I'm very green to CCTV, but with the research I've done, it seems D1 is the best quality most DVRs can record. My understanding is D1 is 704 X 480. On YouTube I see video from security cameras that are in 720p - 1080p. Are they using a NVR to get this quality?

If most analog DVR's can only record up to 480 lines, what is the reason to get a camera better than 480TVLs if you don't plan to watch it live? Am I not understanding something?

I see a lot of pictures comparing 400TVL cameras to 600TVL cameras, but I'm not understanding how they are able to get the 600TVL images when using a DVR that records at D1.

Can someone please help shine some light on this topic for me. Thanks!


In few words :)
in all ref material
All reference is about HORIZONTAL res
meaning when u see 480 tvl or 720 pix its all about horisontal resolution
and u raise good point which was discussed here few times
so do forum search and then comeback here if u still need more info

My personal opinion

NO DVR on market will record true 720x480
what they will do DVR will create windows that size ( 720x480)
without actually resolving each pixel
and its very easy to prove :)

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 Post subject: Re: Question about recording quality: D1, 720p, 1080p
PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 10:01 am 
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ConstantChange wrote:
I'm very green to CCTV, but with the research I've done, it seems D1 is the best quality most DVRs can record. My understanding is D1 is 704 X 480. On YouTube I see video from security cameras that are in 720p - 1080p. Are they using a NVR to get this quality?

Analog video is limited by the analog standards that have been in use since the 50s - usually NTSC in North American (525 scan lines, 483 of those visible) and PAL (625 lines, 576 visible) in most of the rest of the world.

For higher resolutions you need to use digital transmission of some kind - most common is network (IP) transmission to record to an NVR or hybrid DVR; less common is HD-SDi (Serial Digital Interface), which is based on a broadcast standard. HD-SDi currently supports up to 1080p (1920x1080, or 2MP resolution); IP resolutions are theoretically unlimited, although they do run into practical limitations of network speed. Still, there are cameras commercially available up to 29MP.

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If most analog DVR's can only record up to 480 lines, what is the reason to get a camera better than 480TVLs if you don't plan to watch it live? Am I not understanding something?

It's got nothing to do with live vs. recorded - analog video is limited to about 480 lines (in North America), PERIOD.

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I see a lot of pictures comparing 400TVL cameras to 600TVL cameras, but I'm not understanding how they are able to get the 600TVL images when using a DVR that records at D1.

One word: MARKETING. In the days where 480TVL cameras were pretty high-end, 280-380TVL was more common, and going with a higher number always meant higher resolution. Marketing has kept up that trend, and most people have bought into the idea that "more TVL is always better". Of course, there's always weakest-link theory and having a higher-TVL camera ensures that the camera's resolution will never be the weakest link in the chain... but as you've discovered, that only goes so far.

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 Post subject: Re: Question about recording quality: D1, 720p, 1080p
PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 3:17 pm 
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Thanks for the replies. That helps a lot.


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