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 Post subject: Help selecting Security surveillance to my home
PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 2:10 pm 
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Hi i never saw anything about security cameras, i read this forums and googled some brands, however i don't have a clear idea what to buy, i have clear that i need:
4x Outdoor cameras need to be good quality because i live a sea side zone and if not good all iron in 2 years is completely damaged by saltpeter, each one to cover one side of house, with night vision.
1x Indoor cameras one no need to be placed in garage, also with night vision.
1x Indoor Camera to be placed in one zone of house ( i would like a discreet one).
1x DVR preferable if support some tool that export records to some cloud tool that keep sending in case power or cable internet get cutted.

Can someone recommend me some tool for this?


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 3:06 pm 
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I dont have any budget defined but till 2000 USD will be great


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 3:18 pm 
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colombino wrote:
Hi i never saw anything about security cameras, i read this forums and googled some brands, however i don't have a clear idea what to buy, i have clear that i need:
4x Outdoor cameras need to be good quality because i live a sea side zone and if not good all iron in 2 years is completely damaged by saltpeter, each one to cover one side of house, with night vision.
1x Indoor cameras one no need to be placed in garage, also with night vision.
1x Indoor Camera to be placed in one zone of house ( i would like a discreet one).
1x DVR preferable if support some tool that export records to some cloud tool that keep sending in case power or cable internet get cutted.

Can someone recommend me some tool for this?


Well there are some cameras disguised as 'smoke alarm', 'Passive Infrared Alarm', 'Teddy Bear', 'Spy camera', 'clock' or as a 'small bullet camera', but the main problem is that they most of the time lack of infrared leds, so at night they are worthless without enough light. You can always try to find something that look like a dropcam (or an other camera that is flat) and put it behind a (dark colored) painting (with a hole in it). Put an infrared illuminator bulb in a desk lamp and switch it on at night?

For the fourth point, you will need an UPS (Uninterruptible power supply). You will need at least 2, since one is used for your modem (to upload the images to the cloud) and one for the DVR (for uploading the images). If you buy POE cameras, you even can use a third UPS for the POE switch, so you can record at least 10 minutes more (after a power fail) depending on the power it can provide. Well in case that your internet cable has been cut, the solution to upload to the cloud would be to have a modem (read something about a Draytek router but other routers/modems may also support this) which supports a 3G/4G modem as a backup line (with preferred unlimited data)? In that case you will still need an UPS.

But besides a camera system, it would useful to install an alarm system (with a backup battery) so the alarm can send a sms or call you or your neighbour when the power is down or the alarm has been triggered.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:03 pm 
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Thanks for answer,

At outdoor i cannot put movement sensors because of Dog... it will be all night party :D
Yes i know had to buy a router with 3G, but this is the easy part, i need some insight about which Cameras Buy and NVR or if make a PC with NVR sw.


Thanks for help!


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:40 pm 
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colombino wrote:
Thanks for answer,

At outdoor i cannot put movement sensors because of Dog... it will be all night party :D
Yes i know had to buy a router with 3G, but this is the easy part, i need some insight about which Cameras Buy and NVR or if make a PC with NVR sw.


Thanks for help!


If you have a dog, you can use active infrared detector. Place it at a certain height that your dog cannot reach as this sensor works with a line in sight between the two detectors.

I think you better off visiting a specialist, since the coating of the cheaper cameras will be damaged when I read your description... Maybe someone else can give his/her point of view.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:58 pm 
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Hi Unix issue is in my place all "specialists" just have 4 cameras + DVR 600 euro KIT :( that i don't trust at all!


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2015 12:32 pm 
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You need to have a wide angle illuminator. IR illuminators tend to have very narrow beams. Here's one with 120 degrees coverage.

http://www.amazon.com/CMVision-Wide-Ang ... B00EDRQEOW

That also has the benefit of being 850nm LEDs which produce IR that is invisible to the naked eye. Not all cameras can see 850nm, though, so you'd have to check your camera specs or experiment with some until you find one that works.

The problem with this illuminator is that it looks like an LED illuminator to the experienced eye. Maybe burglars wouldn't catch on. You could try to find some IR transparent covering or something to make it look more like a standard light fixture, I suppose.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2015 12:36 pm 
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dalepres wrote:
You need to have a wide angle illuminator. IR illuminators tend to have very narrow beams. Here's one with 120 degrees coverage.

http://www.amazon.com/CMVision-Wide-Ang ... B00EDRQEOW

That also has the benefit of being 850nm LEDs which produce IR that is invisible to the naked eye. Not all cameras can see 850nm, though, so you'd have to check your camera specs or experiment with some until you find one that works.

The problem with this illuminator is that it looks like an LED illuminator to the experienced eye. Maybe burglars wouldn't catch on. You could try to find some IR transparent covering or something to make it look more like a standard light fixture, I suppose.

You have it backwards...850 is the standard IR that glows red and is visible by most cameras that are sensitive to IR light...940 is the one that does not glow but its range is much shorter...


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2015 12:38 pm 
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dalepres wrote:
You need to have a wide angle illuminator. IR illuminators tend to have very narrow beams. Here's one with 120 degrees coverage.

http://www.amazon.com/CMVision-Wide-Ang ... B00EDRQEOW

That also has the benefit of being 850nm LEDs which produce IR that is invisible to the naked eye. Not all cameras can see 850nm, though, so you'd have to check your camera specs or experiment with some until you find one that works.

850 is still visible to eye

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2015 12:56 pm 
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dalepres wrote:
You need to have a wide angle illuminator. IR illuminators tend to have very narrow beams. Here's one with 120 degrees coverage.

http://www.amazon.com/CMVision-Wide-Ang ... B00EDRQEOW

That also has the benefit of being 850nm LEDs which produce IR that is invisible to the naked eye. Not all cameras can see 850nm, though, so you'd have to check your camera specs or experiment with some until you find one that works.

The problem with this illuminator is that it looks like an LED illuminator to the experienced eye. Maybe burglars wouldn't catch on. You could try to find some IR transparent covering or something to make it look more like a standard light fixture, I suppose.



That is total junk

Built-in 84 high power IR LEDs, Supports 12V DC input voltage
Ideal for indoor as well as Indoor applications, special for PTZ indoor camera
Infrared range up to 100 feet (10 square meters),wave length 850,view angle 100-140degree
Low operating costs, auto-switch to ON when available light is under 10Lux by CDS
Size:¢105 x 72(H) mm Power: 12V DC MAX 20W Weight:450g


Ideal for PTZ :lol:

Range 100ft :^o

Some people just type crap in there DISCRIPTION
10 square meters ......... Have a think about that statement


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 Post subject: Re: Help selecting Security surveillance to my home
PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2015 1:11 pm 
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Do the more experienced people have something to write about the damage done by saltpeter?


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2015 1:23 pm 
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Think op means salt air not saltpetre


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2015 2:39 pm 
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Think op means salt air not saltpetre


Probably he is :P, but maybe he lives near a coal power plant that could also be at the coast?


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2015 2:54 pm 
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tomcctv wrote:
Think op means salt air not saltpetre


Probably he is :P, but maybe he lives near a coal power plant that could also be at the coast?



From sea or from air .... Op would be best moving .breathing saltpeter is bad.


Only other option is ........... Op has flying cows going over his home and cameras and taking a pee.


Saltpeter (commercial made in mass) is made from cow pee


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