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 Post subject: Mini nvr questions
PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 12:33 pm 
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Apologies this is posted in two separate catagories as I wasn't sure which one was best

I'm in the process of upgrading an analogue system on my home which currently runs 4 700tvl unbranded chinese cameras
They've been running approx 2 years and I've been happy with the peformance.

I'm looking at getting 2/4 of the hikvision 3mp bullets to run an ip based system. Now I know everything from cables to dvr will need upgrading.
Whilst for the moment I will initially get 2 hiks it will in time be running 4 max

Looking at the nvr side of things has anybody any experience with mini nvr's from china
Looking at the spec sheets they seem to be able to do what I want them to.
Aldo I have been unable to identify if they can run internal drives or are they only external as they do only look small

I've been searching for any information I can on them but haven't been able to find any

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 11:36 am 
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I'll save you all the headaches and searching and research. If your buying a hikvision IP camera, buy a hikvision NVR.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 12:56 pm 
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Feel free to post a link of one of those mini NVRs.

I purchased one for testing, and it is quite good as a brick. It was supposed to work with ONVIF cameras, but I was unable to get it working with any of the cameras I tried.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 1:24 pm 
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Link of one here:

m.aliexpress.com/item/1393000601.html

I will be wanting to use with hikvision cameras


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:08 am 
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luckyfella wrote:
I'll save you all the headaches and searching and research. If your buying a hikvision IP camera, buy a hikvision NVR.


Thanks for the reply
Is there any particular reason for that other than the motion detection compatibility?


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:53 am 
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reeves1985 wrote:
Link of one here:
m.aliexpress.com/item/1393000601.html

I will be wanting to use with hikvision cameras


I did try one unit that looks like that one, but the external enclosure is black. It did not detect any camera I tried it with, Hikvision, Dahua, other ONVIF cameras... It was junk.

I am sure there are different manufacturers, so results may vary. If you try one, please post back with your results.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 10:50 am 
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If i do get one I will definitely post the results

I'm debating whether to take a gamble and see what happens or just pay out the extra for a hikvision nvr

I was assured it will work with hikvision but not the motion detection which is irrelevant to my needs


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 Post subject: Re: Mini nvr questions
PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 6:01 pm 
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reeves1985 wrote:
Aldo I have been unable to identify if they can run internal drives or are they only external as they do only look small
I've been searching for any information I can on them but haven't been able to find any Thanks guys

It is way too small for a hard drive... It is just a little larger than a pack of cigarettes. I have been looking at them too but I have an idea that they are not going to detect many if any cameras automatically. I have one on order to see if you can configure the cameras manually. I guess I will know in a few weeks...


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 Post subject: Re: Mini nvr questions
PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 6:19 pm 
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Ooops, allow me to update on this. I got a firmware update for my unit, and now it works fine and detectes all my Hikvision and Dahua cameras. I still have not been able to test recording on the unit. Here are some thoughts so far:

- I still do have 2 ONVIF cameras that are not detected. I don't care about them.
- The menus suck. I am used to Hikvision and Dahua interfaces/menus; the ones I have on this unit are a lot worse.
- I still have not been able to do any recording. The USB pendrive is there, but I just have not figured out on this interface how to record.
- The streams on the cameras have to be the same, or they won't work. That is, you have 4 cameras? They better be able to work all of them at the same resolution (1920x1080, 1080x720) or it won't work. You can not have 2 cameras at 1920x1080 and 2 cameras at 1080x720.
- I still did not try any remote access... but it is supposed to be there.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 6:46 pm 
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Who or where did you get the updated firmware???

This is good news for me and gives me more hope that it might really work.. :)


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 6:50 pm 
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MindTwist wrote:
Ooops, allow me to update on this. I got a firmware update for my unit, and now it works fine and detectes all my Hikvision and Dahua cameras. I still have not been able to test recording on the unit. Here are some thoughts so far:

- I still do have 2 ONVIF cameras that are not detected. I don't care about them.
- The menus suck. I am used to Hikvision and Dahua interfaces/menus; the ones I have on this unit are a lot worse.
- I still have not been able to do any recording. The USB pendrive is there, but I just have not figured out on this interface how to record.
- The streams on the cameras have to be the same, or they won't work. That is, you have 4 cameras? They better be able to work all of them at the same resolution (1920x1080, 1080x720) or it won't work. You can not have 2 cameras at 1920x1080 and 2 cameras at 1080x720.
- I still did not try any remote access... but it is supposed to be there.


Thanks for the update as I haven't yet pulled the trigger and am debating if I should just use it as a excuse to build another pc dedicated to ip cameras

Food for thought though as this would have to pass the mrs test first as it would be substantially bigger than a dedicated nvr

Which would be in the bedroom as I like to keep a monitor on 24/7 for viewing pleasure! (My area seems to be nocturnal)


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 Post subject: Re: Mini nvr questions
PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 3:02 am 
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xmas2000 wrote:
Who or where did you get the updated firmware???

This is good news for me and gives me more hope that it might really work.. :)


I got it from the manufacturer. I really don't think they actually manufacture the unit, it is probably from some other factory, since I have seen these units sold by a few companies already. But they are the company that provided me the sample back at CPSE. They contacted me to ask if I liked the unit, I told them I was unable to use it at all, and they have been helping me troubleshoot some issues. I still think it is not a mature enough unit and I can still not call it "good", but now it is not "bad" also. I also did not get any useful manuals/software with the unit (everything on the included CD was in chinese).

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Which would be in the bedroom as I like to keep a monitor on 24/7 for viewing pleasure! (My area seems to be nocturnal)


One thing I did think was that the unit at least would be great as a 4ch 1080p decoder. You just want to view 4 cameras 1080p on a VGA computer monitor? This would be a cheap way to do it, and hey, if it can also do recording on USB stick, that would be even better.


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 Post subject: Re: Mini nvr questions
PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:22 pm 
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Well, I got my Super Mini NVR and have had a little time to play with it. (Not enough time)
Some thoughts:

On my network I have 5 different brands of cameras and the "auto detect" did not find any of them. (I kind of expected that) I have now manually configured 3 cameras and 2 of the 3 work great! (So far still working on that third one)

Note: None on the network were Hikvision or DaHua..

The menus are very intuitive and so far everything I have tried works like it should. I have recorded to the eSATA HHD and can play it back without problems. It records and plays back in full 1920X1080 so that is good.

I wish I had more time to play with it but that is all the information I have for now.... More when I get the time!


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 7:38 pm 
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Well after playing with the mini NVR a little more I am impressed with its capability’s and the smoothness of operation. More than I thought I would be.
If it would detect the cameras, I have, it would be much nicer but once you have them configured, they work great! Except the cameras, that I have that do not support duel streams. They work but do not show in preview mode. Once you click on the camera you can see the full stream @ 1920X1080 and it will record, you just cannot see them in preview. The other cameras, when in the preview mode, show you the Sub stream, set to 320x176, and then switch to the main stream when you double click on them for full screen viewing. All recordings are in 1920X1080. You can only view one channel at a time in the playback mode. I have not gotten the motion detect to work on any camera and for now just recording all cameras 24/7.
This mini NVR is as good, if not better, than the DaHua 3216 that I was using.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 1:34 am 
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That's good to know they work ok

I ended up using an old laptop an set it up with nas4free and use that as a server for motion recording but I am still undecided what to use for 24/7 viewing/monitoring I may actually get one for that sole purpose

It's either going to be one of these mini nvr or use an android pc but I can't seem to find any reviews on the android pc to see how well they can handle multiple cameras

If i do go down the android route I can use hikvisions ivms android client to view the remote recordings from nas


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