|
Author |
Message |
crow
|
Post subject: BEST PLACE TO INSTALL CAMERAS Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:52 am |
|
Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 136
|
hi where would you install cameras on this shape building can use upto 6 fixed cameras or 5 fixed and 1 cheep ptz plenty of light at front and left side but no light at right or back also what cameras would be good to use £600 camera budget cheers  building is 200 feet x 60 feet
Last edited by crow on Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:07 pm, edited 1 time in total.
|
|
Top |
|
 |
Soundy
|
Post subject: Re: BEST PLACE TO INSTALL CAMERAS Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:02 pm |
|
Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 8538 Location: The Burbs of Vancouver
|
Not enough information.
Are these cameras going inside or outside?
What's around the building?
What are the areas of concern? Doors? Parking lot(s)? Storage areas?
Are you worried about internal theft, external theft, car break-ins, building break-ins?
Is it all open? Fenced? Gated? Paved? Overgrown? Forested?
_________________ Matt Ion, Omnigeek ------------------ (\__/) (='.'=)This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your (")_(")signature to help him gain world domination.
|
|
Top |
|
 |
crow
|
Post subject: Re: BEST PLACE TO INSTALL CAMERAS Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:25 pm |
|
Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 136
|
the cameras are going on the outside and then 1 or 2 will be fitted later on the inside its just the outside for now there is a carpark to left of the building just open land around the rest of it all way round the outside needs to be covered to protect whats inside there is open land on 3 sides and carpark on 1 . thanks for any sugestions  would this be ok or can it be planed better
Last edited by crow on Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:07 pm, edited 2 times in total.
|
|
Top |
|
 |
crow
|
Post subject: Re: BEST PLACE TO INSTALL CAMERAS Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:57 am |
|
Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 136
|
a better picture of the building if thats any better
Last edited by crow on Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:07 pm, edited 1 time in total.
|
|
Top |
|
 |
PaulsonLaw
|
Post subject: Re: BEST PLACE TO INSTALL CAMERAS Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 9:53 am |
|
Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 151
|
Well.... & I only play a professional on the internet  If you can only handle 6, make 1 a PTZ & make one a fish eye 180 degree 180 cam example only.... Clover HDC500 Panoramic E.T. Color Camera CCTV camera - fixed - weatherproof Good luck This assuming your DVR can auto scan w/ the PTZ & has motion tracking option....
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post. Please sign-in or register to view or download.
|
|
Top |
|
 |
ljarrald
|
Post subject: Re: BEST PLACE TO INSTALL CAMERAS Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:23 am |
|
Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 487 Location: North West England
|
PaulsonLaws idea is good, the fisheye won't catch detail though. i would put the PTZ on the corner, where PaulsonLaw placed the fisheye, you get a LOT more coverage then.
_________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/flamesecureUK
|
|
Top |
|
 |
Soundy
|
Post subject: Re: BEST PLACE TO INSTALL CAMERAS Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:33 am |
|
Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 8538 Location: The Burbs of Vancouver
|
The tough part of all this is the area you need to cover. Unfortunately, any camera in that price range that covers the entire area, won't give you any usable level of detail: you'll see people moving about and might even see them perpetrating, but it will be virtually impossible to identify anyone. Unless you have someone watching and monitoring the live video who can call the cops when they see something hinky going on, I'm afraid there's a good chance the results will be useless.
Remember that a PTZ will only record what it's looking at, and without a person operating it, it will be of very limited use in a situation like this: even if you have it on a constant tour, it will still only catch a small area at a time and miss the rest.
_________________ Matt Ion, Omnigeek ------------------ (\__/) (='.'=)This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your (")_(")signature to help him gain world domination.
|
|
Top |
|
 |
tomcctv
|
Post subject: Re: BEST PLACE TO INSTALL CAMERAS Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:35 am |
|
Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 8652
|
with a ptz you will miss something if it happend ........... i know you say you only need 6 cameras but you would have to buy a 8 way dvr anyway so i would go to 8 cameras for more coverage.
|
|
Top |
|
 |
crow
|
Post subject: Re: BEST PLACE TO INSTALL CAMERAS Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:22 pm |
|
Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 136
|
thanks for the sugestions ill take them on board will have to have extra cameras if possible a couple of extra varifocal to zoom in on the hot spots
what about this also the house max 6 fixed cameras or 2 ptz and 2 fixed there is a upvc conservatory to the right garden cheers
Last edited by crow on Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:08 pm, edited 1 time in total.
|
|
Top |
|
 |
PaulsonLaw
|
Post subject: Re: BEST PLACE TO INSTALL CAMERAS Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 6:04 pm |
|
Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 151
|
True, never thought about the detail of a fisheye, 2x the data on the same channel would have to mean 1/2 the detail.....
I agree, 8 cams would set you fine there...
Have you bought a system yet?
|
|
Top |
|
 |
crow
|
Post subject: Re: BEST PLACE TO INSTALL CAMERAS Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 6:23 pm |
|
Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 136
|
PaulsonLaw wrote: Have you bought a system yet? not for my friend yet my friend for the house and large building above is thinking of 2 x apollo 8 hd's and we are going to see a local instaler to price all the cameras and cable and power suplys e.c.t tomorrow we are in the uk wheres a good place to buy from at a good resonable rate and what price do we need to be paying for an apollo hd 8 channel 500 or 1000 gb? thanks for all your help and advice 
|
|
Top |
|
 |
ljarrald
|
Post subject: Re: BEST PLACE TO INSTALL CAMERAS Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:59 pm |
|
Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 487 Location: North West England
|
PaulsonLaw wrote: True, never thought about the detail of a fisheye, 2x the data on the same channel would have to mean 1/2 the detail..... in places where i need a wide FOV i have used two (sometimes even more) cameras on channels next to eachother on the DVR (1 and 2, 3 and 4, etc) it works well.
_________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/flamesecureUK
|
|
Top |
|
 |
shockwave199
|
Post subject: Re: BEST PLACE TO INSTALL CAMERAS Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:20 pm |
|
Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 2222 Location: New York
|
Quote: Remember that a PTZ will only record what it's looking at, and without a person operating it, it will be of very limited use in a situation like this: even if you have it on a constant tour, it will still only catch a small area at a time and miss the rest. I've come to realize that as I recommend ptz's to my employer as well. That's why I think if you're talking ptz, it must have auto tracking. That's the best shot at honing in on something and getting useful ID. And it would seem like the ptz would actually serve better mostly parked fairly wide, or with a few wide overlapping presets so motion will kick auto tracking in. And from what I've seen, auto tracking ptz's are pricey. There are some down in the 800 or so range, but it's usually more like 1,300 and up. But I still think a ptz with auto tracking is the ultimate way to go to cover large expanses. The auto tracking serves as the person working the camera when no ones there, and you still have nice control for the person who will be there on security shifts to zero in on things as needed. I'm all but convinced well placed auto tracking ptz's is the only way to cover large, multiple areas and have a shot at anything for ID. Other than that, like Soundy says- all you do is see it, with no ID capability. I only post this link for the video footage of the ptz auto tracking vids- http://www.skywaysecurity.com/auto-trac ... -video.cfmDan
_________________ My DIY Residential System Videos
|
|
Top |
|
 |
Soundy
|
Post subject: Re: BEST PLACE TO INSTALL CAMERAS Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:48 pm |
|
Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 8538 Location: The Burbs of Vancouver
|
Auto-tracking looks like a good idea... until you have more than one object to track. Then you'd better hope it chooses the right one. Or hope that there IS only one.
_________________ Matt Ion, Omnigeek ------------------ (\__/) (='.'=)This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your (")_(")signature to help him gain world domination.
|
|
Top |
|
 |
shockwave199
|
Post subject: Re: BEST PLACE TO INSTALL CAMERAS Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:54 pm |
|
Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 2222 Location: New York
|
|
Top |
|
 |
Who is online |
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 6 guests |
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot post attachments in this forum
|
It is currently Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:54 pm
|