Bob La Londe

My apologies... it does appear to be a multi MFG platform. Its still not quite what I was looking for according to the compatibility list though. It looks like it will work with a number of IP cameras (which is good) but does not appear to be setup to work with many(any?) DVRs.

******** is a good reliable software.

 

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Please people. If you have an answer to the QUESTION ACTUALLY ASKED fine, but I have an Android ap that works just fine and I AM NOT LOOKING FOR ONE. In fact I have three installed on my phone for demos for my clients based on what their needs are. Now I will make a point of NOT RECCOMENDING any Droid or iPhone aps trying to be hawked by vendors in this thread.

 

I am looking for a multiple MFG compatible PC and/or MAC based application for viewing and reviewing video from multiple sites. If you have one I would like to hear about it. If you know of one I would be very thankful if you chose to share that information.

 

If you just want to hawk what you have and don't have what I want. BUZZ OFF!

 

Thank you for your understanding.

 

 

I think captainpc may have misunderstood what your requirements are; it's fairly evident that he isn't trying to sell that particular brand of VMS software, seeing as the guy who develops and sells it a one-man show. Your response scored an 8 on the CreepIndex, considering the guy was trying to help you. I think you should apologize to CaptainPC, he's probably pretty broken up about it and he most likely needs to get some sleep tonight and not stare at the ceiling all night worrying about upsetting an important guy like you.

Your response rated a 9.9 on the clueless meter, and its still irrelevant.

******** is a good reliable software.

 

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Please people. If you have an answer to the QUESTION ACTUALLY ASKED fine, but I have an Android ap that works just fine and I AM NOT LOOKING FOR ONE. In fact I have three installed on my phone for demos for my clients based on what their needs are. Now I will make a point of NOT RECCOMENDING any Droid or iPhone aps trying to be hawked by vendors in this thread.

I am looking for a multiple MFG compatible PC and/or MAC based application for viewing and reviewing video from multiple sites. If you have one I would like to hear about it. If you know of one I would be very thankful if you chose to share that information.

If you just want to hawk what you have and don't have what I want. BUZZ OFF!

Thank you for your understanding.

Thanks. I will look into PSIM and see if its in the budget for the clients who have the need.

Alternatively I may suggest for just viewing they use IP Cam Viewer on PC using Blue Stacks.

I don't know if there is enough demand, but I am wondering if there are any decent multiple brand compatible PC based client programs out there.

 

There are several for Android and iPhone platforms, but I have not yet seen one for PC. What got me thinking is I use Robert Chou's IP Cam Viewer on my Android all the time for testing a variety of different remote video connections. Digi-Merge, generic H.264, Dedicated Micros, Pelco, etc.

 

Is there a client software package that flexible for PC or MAC?

 

No, the answer is not to just use the same brand of hardware and video serving equipment at every site. For a variety of practical reason that just isn't always going to happen. Particularly for a customer that has facilities across multiple cites or even states or countries. For the most part I have been lucky enough to work with clients that were savy enough to understand that a certain amount of consistency in quality hardware is beneficial for practical application and user training. Once in a while though you get into circumstances beyond your control were a client has two or three different brands of equipment each with its own client software. Sure they can just load 2 or 3 or 4 different applications or if web compatible open multiple browsers windows or tabs, but they can't easily just watch a few key cameras from multiple sites all at once on one screen like they can with just one multiple DVR compatible client program like NetVu can if you have all DM equipment.

 

A shipping manager might only want to watch a few cameras, but he might want to watch the loading docks at three or four different facilities. If they are not all the same brand they have to use their smart phone.

 

P.S. IP Cam Viewer is a $5 ap I believe, but the free lite version is still fully functional for upto 6 cameras for your really cheap clients.

 

 

Hi

Yes some App for IP camera is very cheap .

It depends on what DVR or NVR you will buy .

We will announce a new Central Management Software which can accept most Onvif protocol device .

Philip

emal : Phlip.Hdview@gmail.com

Who said anything about cheap? You didn't answer the question, and instead stated you are going to just introduce another knock off AP.

Full featured CLIENT SOFTWARE FOR PC is what is desired.

MULTIPLE MANUFACTURER SUPPORT is what is needed in it.

I ALREADY HAVE a perfectly good AP for Android and iPhone, and I don't plan to start reccomending something brand new and untested based on your stilted comments that do not answer the questions asked.

Actually there used to be some systems that would deliver EXTREMELY limited video over DIAL UP, but they sucked.

I do not think ANYBODY is making one today.

Whenever I removed one I smashed it with a sledge hammer before tossing it in the dumpster so I would never risk having to explain to a client why they couldn't have 32 1080P channels over their POTS line again.

I then sent bribes to every other installer in the world to do the same along with a 10 pound sledge.

What is the physical distance and line of sight between the empty premise and the premise where video would desire to be viewed? if a few hundred feet then a wireless transmission using a several hundred dollar wireless link MIGHT be possible. If a few miles, then a few thousand dollar wireless link might be possible. If no line of site then not possible at all. If you are one of those who hear the hundred dollars and miles because those are the only words you want to hear then you will be sadly, grossly, permanently, and irrevocabley disappointed.

I don't know if there is enough demand, but I am wondering if there are any decent multiple brand compatible PC based client programs out there.

There are several for Android and iPhone platforms, but I have not yet seen one for PC. What got me thinking is I use Robert Chou's IP Cam Viewer on my Android all the time for testing a variety of different remote video connections. Digi-Merge, generic H.264, Dedicated Micros, Pelco, etc.

Is there a client software package that flexible for PC or MAC?

No, the answer is not to just use the same brand of hardware and video serving equipment at every site. For a variety of practical reason that just isn't always going to happen. Particularly for a customer that has facilities across multiple cites or even states or countries. For the most part I have been lucky enough to work with clients that were savy enough to understand that a certain amount of consistency in quality hardware is beneficial for practical application and user training. Once in a while though you get into circumstances beyond your control were a client has two or three different brands of equipment each with its own client software. Sure they can just load 2 or 3 or 4 different applications or if web compatible open multiple browsers windows or tabs, but they can't easily just watch a few key cameras from multiple sites all at once on one screen like they can with just one multiple DVR compatible client program like NetVu can if you have all DM equipment.

A shipping manager might only want to watch a few cameras, but he might want to watch the loading docks at three or four different facilities. If they are not all the same brand they have to use their smart phone.

P.S. IP Cam Viewer is a $5 ap I believe, but the free lite version is still fully functional for upto 6 cameras for your really cheap clients.

Ok, I admit my comment was a bit strong, but thank you.

Anyway, as near as I can tell the associations are all geared towards making it easier for the generals to cherry pick (at best) and take advantage of enmasse (the average) the specialties. I looked at one, who had some pretty great sounding services, but I couldn't afford to join. When they found out all the things I could do they offered to let me "participate" in the "business side" (bids, plan room, etc) without joining. I played for a couple months until I saw how it worked and I never went back. It did give me some great insite into the two or three "mostly" honest generals in the region, and the 99% who are no better than the infamous organized crime assoicated generals in certain cites who I NEVER want to work for, with, or even on the same job site.

Ok, I guess by going in with eyes open and I did gain something. LOL.

Can we please kick these generals off the forum. Two in one thread just pushing their own self serving associations formed for the sole purpose of taking advantage of specialties is Waaaay to many.

I recently upgraded my DS2P 1st generation to a more current software revision. This is the demo unit I use in my office to show customers. Pelco-P quit working. I can control cameras using Pelco-C, but as you know that protocol is not fully implemented on the DS2 DVRs and you can not use all of the functions of a Pelco PTZ camera with C prototcal enabled.

 

The only reason I updated the software is because the first generation DS2P did not have any password protection. Now that I am frequently using my laptop or even my cell phone for demos, and I opened the DVR up to the Internet from more than a very narrow range of incoming IP addresses I decided I needed the password protection at a bare minimum.

 

None of the telelmetry settings for P were changed, and the unit has been restarted several times.

 

Any suggestions? DM did not respond to emails regarding this issue.

Apparently something changed in the variables. A factory default seemed to fix the problem. (Not a restart).

I recently upgraded my DS2P 1st generation to a more current software revision. This is the demo unit I use in my office to show customers. Pelco-P quit working. I can control cameras using Pelco-C, but as you know that protocol is not fully implemented on the DS2 DVRs and you can not use all of the functions of a Pelco PTZ camera with C prototcal enabled.

The only reason I updated the software is because the first generation DS2P did not have any password protection. Now that I am frequently using my laptop or even my cell phone for demos, and I opened the DVR up to the Internet from more than a very narrow range of incoming IP addresses I decided I needed the password protection at a bare minimum.

None of the telelmetry settings for P were changed, and the unit has been restarted several times.

Any suggestions? DM did not respond to emails regarding this issue.

Home Builders Association offers it's members benefits such as discounted insurance rates for their employees so this will help lessen the burdens on the contractors and subcontractors who already have a hard time with making ends meet and don't want to have to fire or cut back on their laborers.

 

construction company

Are you smoking dope?

Expect to be "used" by home builders with this "service".

Sheeeee-it. Expect to be used by builders if you work for them period. It is always a thousand percent better to work directly for the client. Those clients who are too stupid or too lazy to be bothered by specifying and working directly with a specialty contractor to get exactly what they want get exactly what they deserve with the like and stick (prewired for a wireless alarm) that they get stuck with otherwise.

I called the client and asked her to look and see if the manufacturer or model was visible on the unit. SHe has not called me back yet.

Several years ago I had a client ask me to install a video intercom / door station for them. It stored the last dozen or so images from when somebody pushed the button and it was easy to review them.

Anybody know what manufactuer or system that was likely to have been? I had installed the alarm in their house and the video intercom was just an after thought.

If I recall we installed two indoor monitor stations and one door box. The intercom was a gift from their kids I think, and if I recall the price they told me was pretty low for that time period.

I have a client who has 5 GV-1000 boxes running on two sites. I am having a little trouble figuring out exactly what he has. I downloaded the detection software and it says he is eligible for 6.x(something) or 7.x(something) with a USB dongle, but it does not actually say what software he is running.

All I want to do is setup webcam server for him.

He has two sites and both sites have more than one machine. As such I need to setup his router to port forward to one machine or the other.

I am going to guess here and please correct me where I screw up.

His ISP is Adelphia Powerlink and he has ordered a static IP address for each site. This should eliminate the need for any funky stuff like dealing with a dynamic dns service.

It looks like webcam server is built into the software. There are three ports to setup. Since Adelphia blcok port 80 and a number of other standard ports to prevent running a regular services server I'll have to configure non standard ports.

ie 8234,8235,8236 & 8237,8238,8239 or something like that for each machine. Then if I understand it correctly I'll have to forward all three ports to the correct machine.

Now I am not sure how the web browser is supposed to connect to this using three ports.

Punch in the base port with the IP address? 99.99.99.999:8234 ? Then what?

The etching (or burn in) I experienced was on an analog feed to an 18" cheap generic no name LCD. Somebody posted this about it over in ASA.

I did, and found this on a thread:

Create a white image in Photoshop (or similar) the same

size as your screen. Use it as yiur screen saver and let

it run for as long as possible. I had the same problem,

ran the screen saver for 24 hours and and then rebooted

and the burn-in (Apple call it "ghosting") was gone. I've

seen it recommended that you run the white image as

screensaver for as long as you've had the ghosting problem,

but in my case a week was too long for me to have no computer

access so 24 hours did the trick. The problem hasn't since

re-occured...

This solution was recommended by Apple, it's somewhere in

their knowledge base...

Here's the link:

http://docs.info.apple.com/arti...tml?artnum=88343

 

Another site desribes it as "retained pixel charge" - apparently it's

not a permanent condition as with monitor or plasma burn-in, it just

requires something to force a change of the charge.

 

Posted on ASA by Matt Ion

went out to do a site survey on an existing system. They were wanting to upgrade their system they currently have. They have 16 cameras. Well 12 cameras. 4 got stolen....twice. Its a hotel and they want a solution to these cameras being stolen. The problem is where these cameras are being stolen is on this building. Its 2 stories and the eve's are concrete and about 7 1/2 feet tall. I was thinking about putting some vandal proof domes. But I cant find a camera that I can lock into a mount. Because hell even if its vandal proof someone can take baseball bat and knock it of the mount. Anyone know of a solution?

The Silent Knight Gripless V28G 123 system should do the trick. It will take an impact from a bat or hammer, and its almost impossible to knock off unless you can hammer a prybar underneath it and jerk out the anchors holding it in place. We have used them on governemtn buildings and gotten good reviews.

Also the CSI-Speco-Provideo H.E.A.T. cameras may work for this application although they don't say weatherproof they have a published operating range upto 122F.

Another option is the Samsung SVD-4120A whish is tamper resistant and rated for wind and rain. It also is designed to take a serious impact. The picture it in their brochure laying on the ground with a tractor track over it.

The Provideo is the cheapest, and the Silent Knight has the most options. I personally think the Samsung looks like the most bang for your buck, but I have not used any of the the Samsungs as of yet.

My opinion and personal perspective on Extreme.

Extreme also has a decent looking tamper done,but I had a customer service issue with them that left me stuck with several hundred dollars worth of product I couldn't use. I got some defective products and Iwound up with several hundred dollars in stuff I can't use, and they refused to take back. Amazingly after I reamed them ut and fought with them for months they did acknowledge the problem.

For a tamper dome I think I would position the camera to have the wire enter directly int the back of the dome through the wall. Anchor the camera over the wire hole in the wall. That is what I have done on other installations.

How do you loop out a single analong camera input to a remote VGA monitor?

This is a 16 camera digital video system. The system is in a communications room on a different floor. ALL THEY WANT is a single camera looped out to this other floor several rooms away and a floor lower so they can see that one camera. That is all. There is no room for a CRT or tube type monitor.

What you say doesn't make any sense to me. I should put in something to drive a VGA monitor just so I can convert an analog signal to VGA?

P.S. I appreciate the EXTRA feedback, but all I want is an analog LCD monitor that won't etch. I want one like the little Sharp I use for a test monitor.

This on a "PC" based system, but this monitor need to be anaalog becasue it will just have the single camera looped out to it.

I did a video job a couple years ago where the customer insisted on buying their own LCD flat screen monitors. I don't recall what brand they used, but they stared to suffer from etchig almost immediately. When I was looking into that I was told almost all LCD monitors will etch fairly quickly when used i that type of application. Usually within days and with some within hours the bright text will start to etch.

I have a little ten inch Sharp LCD I have had for many years that I use for a test monitor and occassionally for part of a loaner system when I have to send a monitor off for repairs. It has always had a great picture and has never shown any signs of etching even when operated on a fixed quad system for over six months.

I have a customer who wants me to loop out and install a flat screen for one of their cameras. Naturally I thought of Sharp.

As I flip through my TV catalog I notice that Sharp seems to have two lines. One is just Sharp and the other is Sharp Aquos. Anybody have any recent experience with either of these for fixed view CCTV applications regarding etching or lack thereof?

Just got off the phone with NVT. American Fiber Tek is closed already. NVT says I should have no problems with an overall shield such as direct burial telco cat 3 cable.

Ok, I took a quick look at the American Fibertek website and all I see is fiber technology stuff., Nothing for twisted pair.

I have a couple reasons for preferring twisted pair technology, price and capability.

I know I can get twisted pair fairly reasonabley. Even for direct burial. I do not have the tools to terminate fiber. I also have a fair amount of experience with twisted pair installation having done i as a contractor and in the past as a phone company employee. I also have all the right tools, and know how to properly use underground splice kits etc for future applications.

In reading up on this several peole refference UTP. The U in UTP stands for unshielded. With any decent direct burial cable it will be shielded by its very nature. Usually there is a copper or in some cases an aluminum armor/shield between the outer jack and the pairs inside. Is this a problem?

Gophers are a problem in this area. I wouldn't even consider installing a non-gopher proof cable.

Use Multipair UTP twisted pair, or Cat5.

 

For underground?

If there are many bends half inch will be difficult to pull, and with fiber the 90s maybe to tight to be able to do it without puttingto much strain on the fiber.

Use Multipair UTP twisted pair, or Cat5.

For underground?