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2 hours ago, tomcctv said:

Hi. If recorder is connected to internet then no it’s not just local….

???

2 hours ago, tomcctv said:

You don’t even need face detection it still collects that data

Well that means it should be using a lot of bandwidth if it keeps recording faces and sending data to Chinese data centers... Damn Chinese people. That's sooooo weird and spooky. Is this new? I mean is it to the new chips of newer XVRs / NVRs ?

2 hours ago, tomcctv said:

To stop others watching your system …. While on internet your system is connected to a server 1000s miles away

 

Well technically I am...

Edit: I just unplugged my XVR ahahahahah

On 9/20/2021 at 6:40 PM, tomcctv said:

Hi. Yes the system is good …. However the data protection is not for everyone that visits your home ……. You can’t control that side of your system dahua does

 

i tell people now to have a switch that allows you to turn off your recorders network while your home and only switch network on when your home is empty 

 

if you have not installed it yet I would hold off as you can’t send it back once used

 

dahua sent me some kit offers $125 for recorder and 10 cameras …. That’s a reduction of $600 on same kit last month 

most countries are still waiting for the ban result

 

Hi again. When you talk about "Data" you mean face recognition? Because I don't use that and I don't think I am going to. I also thought that the face database was local. Isn't it?

My system cost me about 500 dollars.  DAHUA XVR5116HS-I2 + 5 cameras for now + some cables + adapters and more. I am adding 3 more next month.

Could you please explain to me a little bit more about the part of "the recorders network" ? I never used ethernet/internet on my previous dahua XVR but now I thought I would start to. Why should we shut it down / cut the connection when in home?

Thank you.

17 hours ago, tomcctv said:

Hi. Yes you need a analytics camera and if recorder which attributes your looking for 

but if your looking at buying wizsense (Ai)

I would not buy just yet ….you could be wasting your money

 

Waste? Omg... Well I bought a DAHUA XVR5116HS-I2 a few hours ago along with 5 cameras and other tools for the setup. I am upgrading btw. My system so far - not thanks to dahua - but due to its existence has helped me in a few cases that people stole things from my yard. So yeah... If half of false alarms work I will be happy enough. I might post here or in a new post my thoughts after a couple of months. Thank you.

Hi forum,

as a follow up to my previous post that hasn't been answered (here) I keep trying to understand a few things about Dahua and their Wizsense system. Reading this page  doesn't really clear all the terms how / if / when and why some characteristics are in a device or not. (too many terms god). According to their product selector Wizsense can be found in: IP cameras - XVR Recorders -NVR Recorders.

1. MUST I use an IP Camera to have a "Wizsense" or not?

2. Can I have an XVR Wizsense used with a camera that does not have Wizsense?

3. My thought is that: (tell me if this is correct please)

IP cameras with Wizsense integrated > use with any NVR without Wizsense integrated.

XVR/NVR recorders with Wizsense integrated > use with any camera without Wizsense integrated.

Please someone my head is about to explode. ?

Thank you.

Hi Forum,

Before I start I apologize for any mistakes you might find in my writing. I am not a native speaker so please be patient. This is probably going to be a big post but I am currently freaking out by the depth of the research I have made and still I am still unable to decide my final choice.

I own a kind old DAHUA 4 Camera 720P CCTV system that have been working non stop for over 4 years now but it is time to change it. It has helped us before. Stolen items from our yard etc. But the house was secure. Main reason is the 720P and second reason the sooooo many false alarms I get all the time. Even when cars pass by and their lights hit my yard or my windows the alarms won’t stop.

Searching dahuasecurity.com I came across an amazing number of DVR/XVR/Whatever VR recorders and a lot  A LOOOOT of cameras.

Having in mind that I HATE IP cameras (don’t know why I just like “analog” better) I went on to check “HDCVI Recorders”. So trying to break down and understand what I need and why I looked up for the meaning of their series. (that took me a week lol)
PoC Series – Power Over Coaxial so I will use less cabling. LOVE IT!
Lite AI Series – Artificial Intelligent series that I am still confused about
Cooper Series – Whatever this series does. Don’t know. Haven't found.

More than IP cameras I hate cables. Since we can’t avoid at least 1 cable – so wireless isn’t an option since power is needed – I thought OK let’s go for the POC series.
BUT…

The POC series (according to a person I asked) does NOT have AI chip. Still supports SMD & IVS but NOT SMD Plus or Perimeter Protection.
So I am thinking. Ok Dahua show me the differences between SMD and SMD+. Nothing. Not online not on youtube nothing!
Then I get this: The Face Capture, Perimeter Protection, and IVS functions cannot be used at the same time, only one Analytics+ or IVS function can be used at a time. In addition, the Smart H.265+ and the Smart H.264+ cannot be used simultaneously with either an Analytics+ or an IVS feature. A sentence that I can not fully comprehend. Why? Why can’t I use perimeter protection and also use IVS? Isn’t that perimeter thing “INTELIGENT”???

And then this image:

That doesn’t make things 100% clear though I understand that I need some kind of IVS/SMD? Isn't SMD Intelligent again? Please Dahua make things easier for stupid people like me.

So… after research I’ve made 3 groups of products. 1 POC, 1 normal with AI (for pricing reasons) and 1 POE with AI. (Yes I know I hate ethernet but whatever). Some of the items you might see here may be outdated but this is what exist in my marketplace at the moment.

So closing my post the big question is. Will POC work for me? Will I be able to eliminate false alarms and search only for people after a day or so in my XVR even with no SMD+? (Sorry I find it confusing to understand the differences between SMD, SMD+, IVS)

Thank you in advance.

I have a 4 camera setup in my router (4 static ip one in each camera) but since I need to shut down my PC I bought an NVR.

 

Another reason is because I need my cameras to be offline. So, we must not use the router because it is online.

 

My NVR does not transmit any WIFI signal (I thought it would) and I am stuck. I don't know how to setup the system now.

It should transmit a signal so I could tell the cameras to connect to this Wireless signal. But it doesn't!

 

Is there a tutorial for a router-less nvr system? How do I move on? Or maybe only some NVR's transmit signal?

 

 

Hi. A 4 way network switch is all you need ..... It will replace your router

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/NETGEAR-GS105UK-Gigabit-Unmanaged-Ethernet/dp/B0000E5SEQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1467885768&sr=1-1&keywords=4+port+gigabit+ethernet+switch

Thank you for your quick reply. Do switches like this transmit wifi signal?

My cams are outside the house and it's impossible to run them through ethernet cable.

I have a 4 camera setup in my router (4 static ip one in each camera) but since I need to shut down my PC I bought an NVR.

Another reason is because I need my cameras to be offline. So, we must not use the router because it is online.

My NVR does not transmit any WIFI signal (I thought it would) and I am stuck. I don't know how to setup the system now.

It should transmit a signal so I could tell the cameras to connect to this Wireless signal. But it doesn't!

Is there a tutorial for a router-less nvr system? How do I move on? Or maybe only some NVR's transmit signal?

I wouldn't know. With Whiteshark it's all greek to me. I don't understand it.

Someone? Anyone? Am I the first one to scan for the camera ports?

 

How about what model camera you are using?

SZSINOCAM SN-IPC-4015SW-EU

Someone? Anyone? Am I the first one to scan for the camera ports?

Hello. Sorry if my English are so and so. I am not a native speaker.

I have recently set up a 4 camera CCTV system that is currently running on my PC (like 5fps real time and hardly 8-10 fps recording) and I am going to buy a NVR buy anyway back to the subject.

I am giving you a port scan print screen of one of my cameras. Is it normal for the cameras to use that many ports?

Oh and let me translate: Left column ???????? = Service - Right column ???????????? = Details

Hi. It's ddns and also a China cloud service.

 

It's a lot of work but worth it.

 

Reset your cameras IP and you give them port numbers ......I think they ask you to use port 80 you need to give your cameras 5550 for cam 1 5551 for cam 2 and so on

 

You need to do this off your network and don't reconnect your cameras till you have reset your router.

 

You need to do a full router reset change passwords .... And if you have the option on your router also change the MAC address

 

Sometimes it's better to go and buy I newer router and learn and understand it ..... That way you can spot changes made

 

If you are not a network person then talk to your ISP and ask them to reset and change your Mac for you

 

The only thing I understood from your message was "Hi". hahaha

 

I will look into it though. Quick question. Do you know if it's a common thing for Chinese brands to work this way with e-video? Or do all IP cameras do that? Even expensive hi end like Samsung, Sony etc?

 

 

Yes it is a new thing ......p2p setup .... Makes it easy for people to setup there own system .... But it is turning out to be a bad thing it's more about information collecting

 

E-video and ezviz are always in the security news at the moment with people having problems

omg. It really wouldn't be a big problem if I could change the login information. For some reason it's admin/admin and this is so dangerous. Anyone who might find my ip can access my feed. Any idea how we change it since it's hard to disable it? I have contacted sinocam but maybe someone knows better in here. After all no one in the Chinese market is known for their English Instructions. Like me

Hi. It's ddns and also a China cloud service.

 

It's a lot of work but worth it.

 

Reset your cameras IP and you give them port numbers ......I think they ask you to use port 80 you need to give your cameras 5550 for cam 1 5551 for cam 2 and so on

 

You need to do this off your network and don't reconnect your cameras till you have reset your router.

 

You need to do a full router reset change passwords .... And if you have the option on your router also change the MAC address

 

Sometimes it's better to go and buy I newer router and learn and understand it ..... That way you can spot changes made

 

If you are not a network person then talk to your ISP and ask them to reset and change your Mac for you

The only thing I understood from your message was "Hi". hahaha

I will look into it though. Quick question. Do you know if it's a common thing for Chinese brands to work this way with e-video? Or do all IP cameras do that? Even expensive hi end like Samsung, Sony etc?

Hi. This is the best one

 

http://www.noip.com/free?utm_source=adwords&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=noipcom&utm_campaign=noipcom&gclid=CL654JzCrM0CFc0y0wod2LcMwQ

 

 

But your problem will be ..... Is still having your my E-video still active.

This is a magic reply! This is exactly my problem only I could not find a way to write it. This e-video never stops broadcasting. And to make things even worse, even now that I found a way to change the password for local login, the e-video login settings remain the same. And that is admin/admin!

how do we turn this e-video off??!!

Hi. Are you in China ???

 

Ddns does not just apply to your dvr its your network ... Lots of Chinese ddns services are popping up and are unsafe to use

 

you need to manually reset all your system and not use there settings or services

 

Talk to your ISP have them block the China service and also ask how much a static IP will cost you

Hi, I am not in China. I live in Greece. I do understand that DDNS apply to my network. DDNS tells the DNS service what my IP is so yes it (they) can gain access to my network. My Router is locked so there is at least some kind of security but again I feel unsafe. I don't use any DVR (NVR) yet just my PC for the time. Isn't DYNDNS (dyn.com) safe? It looks legit. The camera has dyn.com as an option too.

Static IP is costly in all of our ISPs in Greece.

Hello, sorry if my English are so and so I am not a native speaker.

I recently bought a 4 camera system from ebay, the camera brand is SINOCAM and I am having some concerns about my privacy. My goal is to connect them to a NVR and access the NVR through my PC or via the Internet. But we are having issues.

Before I start I have to mention a few things. It took me a lot of time to setup a static ip in DHCP and Wireless (I have set the same static IP in both; different in each camera) and that is due to my ignorance in the subject.

Now that I have finally setup my system and each of the cameras will always get the same static IP when they reconnect in a change of a power failure (even though they are on a UPS) I have found two big security issues.

First one is Admin login

The camera does not allow me to change the admin password. It does allow me to add another user but not change the default password. That means that if someone gains access to my private network they get access to my camera. And if someone gets my DDNS url (that’s the second issue) also get access to my camera.

So, how do we change it?

Second one and bigger is DDNS

By default the cameras have some DDNS settings setup.

The default settings are something like:

Server Provide: MyEYE

Server IP: dvripc.cn

Domain: a-camera-name.dvripc.cn

Port: 80

DDNS status: OK

Now here is the issue. Even though I disable DDNS, if I go and login from any computer into that URL, I keep getting live stream from my camera (and remember: admin and pass are DEFAULT!). I have read somewere that DDNS will keep working even though you have disable it, because the DDNS server has your IP so you must change it. And so I did. I disable DDNS and restarted my router. Nothing! And to make things even more weird, when I login; I get the old IP showing. And even more, changing the DDNS to another service (just to test it without having an actual account) the original URL (.cn) keeps working.

I must admit I don’t know a lot about DDNS. But I do understand that is a service that helps you connect to your network or devices when you use dynamic IP (due to our internet service provider). So, the camera, “reads” my IP, tells the DNS server my ip and every time I type the URL, I get connected to the camera. Am I right?

I don’t get the difference between server provide and server ip though.

I am really frustrated by sinocam. Can someone give some ideas please?

Thank in advance.

The camera I have is a cheap one (again) and I don't really mind. Still can't find drivers.

edit: I think I have updated the drivers with some kind of software (they look updated through device manager) but I can't see what the camera sees with a software I downloaded named remote viewer. The cards box has an image of a software called wave-p dvr software but again I can't find it either.

Hello everyone. I bought a cheap card but it came without a CD with the drivers. The cards description was " DVR PCI CARD 4CH.IN 1CH REAL C10104 BOR " and the box has some info but nothing special. I think the companys name is ROHS and it says ROHS H.264 model 10104. I can't find the drivers anywhere.

Any ideas?

I agree. Can you please check out my 3rd reply?

I want to buy this card but it is weird that it is 704*576 and it costs only $42. Is it a normal price?

 

 

Hi. yes its normal for junk. get $42 out and set fire to it and trust me doing that will save you money.

 

a $42 card will let you down either installing it or when you need to get footage off.

 

 

the least you should be looking at

http://viewitem.eim.ebay.gr/Qvis-Zeus-Lite-LX-4-8-16-Channel-H264-CCTV-DVR-Recorder-Unit-500GB-1TB-HDD/121100830226/item

 

which is the dahua ..... lots of reading on here about them.

Oh. I didn't know. I am really looking for a pc based sollution. Not a DVR.

But after all isn't everything made in China?

All of them have Compression Format H.264. Is this good?

So we have:

TOTAL FPS

Display FPS

Recording FPS

Display resolution

Recording resolution.

I don't know what D1 and CIF is.

As far as I can see all cards have equal number of total - display and recording. (200 in most times.)

I do know what the terms mean but I can't find the connection between the TVL of the cameras and the resolution both display and recording. I am planning on getting 650TVL color cameras 1/3'' sensor. Having a low display/recording resolution will cancel the big number of TVL. Is this right?

Is 352x288 recording resolution low in CCTV world? I think it is. Should I go for 704x576?

Edit: Btw, this is the camera I choose. Do you think it is good? It is 2MPX. The model I choose is red squared.

Link to camera: http://s10.postimg.org/82yzf7c89/mycam.png

Hello everyone. I apologise if my English are not perfect. I am not a native speaker.

I am very new to CCTV and I need to create a system for my home security. I know I am suppose to search the forum for answers but I am also sure that my questions are very easy and fast to answer.

I was looking for DVR cards in Aliexpress. I can find the cards there 2 or 3 times cheaper. For example a card in Aliexpress was about $100 and in a Greek eshop about the same card was $250. I understand the reasons of course. The market must have a markup price.

Now to my questions.

I see many resolutions, fps and other infos in the cards. There are a few things that I don't understand.

Compression H.264, Input 8CH BNC, Output VGA

Frame rate

NTSC:240fps, PAL: 200fps

Resolution 352 *288 320*288 704*576

Frame rate NTSC:240fps, PAL: 200fps

Resolution 352*288 320*288 704*576

If the total FPS of a card says 200 does it mean it is the display or the rec fps?

Is there a link explaining all the infos about cards. I want to buy this card but it is weird that it is 704*576 and it costs only $42. Is it a normal price?

Hello forum! I'm new here. I am raising a few money to buy a CCTV system I think I'll have it ready in a couple of months but there is something else I'd like to do.

First I have to apologise if my English are not perfect. I am not a native speaker.

What I was thinking is that with the cameras I could also place that magnetic window sensors on my doors and windows. BUT! I don't want them on an alarm system. I just want to be able to monitor from my pc what doors/windows are open. So... is there ANYTHING like that or is it just in my imagination and I should patent it?