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  1. If you dont want to run new cable, you can look at hikvisions TVI or dahua CVI systems that run HD over coax...
    Anyone pushing analog in 2016 (except in rare special circumstances) is cheating the end user. Unfortunately, members here push analog because they work for companies that sell mostly analog in installers who install mostly analog. Shame on them.

    Referring to yourself ?

    Just in case you didn't know, TVI/CVI is AnalogHD.

    Google it instead of taking my words for it.

     

    Btw, I never push Analog over IP. Using either depends on situation.

     

    We are talking about reliability here. You said it is just as reliable, I disagreed as inherently, there's more point of failure.

    Doesn't mean it'll fail, just means there's more possible way to fail compared to analog coax system.

     

    IP setting could cause a cam to go offline, doesn't happen to analog (which include analog HD btw).

    DOS attack could flood the network switches causing failure of video stream, doesn't happen to analog cabling (including analog HD).

    Connecting a Network Device with the Same IP to the same network would cause ip conflict situation which will take camera with same IP offline, doesn't happen to analog system (including analog HD).

    Firmware of IP Cameras might need to be updated to fix bugs, analog camera (including analog hd) doesn't have any firmware to updatem, if it works, it works. Firmware upgrade is not 100% foolproof. Equipment under going firmware upgrade sometimes failed during the upgrade process and require further steps to reload the firmware/kernel.

    These among others.

     

    For home use nvr + ip cameras, most people just plug and play. Plug and play means the default login of the cameras are never changed. Only the NVR is.

    Any IP devices which is left in default settings will be less secure than those with setting changed.

     

    As mentioned in other post, IP based allow for flexibility of deployment. You could add on equipment with less cabling work. Even using wireless is more secure as it's harder to find common standard secure wireless transmission equipment for analog equipment.

     

    I use both IP/Analog depending on situation and also customer budget.

    Redundant recording design , offsite backup, doesn't only applies to only 100% IP Based system. Other systems also supports it.

    Guess english is not your first language. Did you not read a word I wrote? Do you not undestand what homerun to the NVR is?

    Denial of service attacks really? Now you are proving how inept your are.

    Wireless is secure? wow...I could take your wifi offline easily.

    plug and play default? if the cameras are not exposed to the NET its the same as analog...you cannot reach the cameras directly.. wow, you really dont know what you are talking about. Sad. Your grasping at straws making silly arguments about default passwords..well you know what? if the default password on the ANALOG DVR is not changed then I could disable it as well. What do you think this is oceans 11, where the burglars are going to find your ip address and remote it? this has gotten to the point of idiocy.


  2. You should really understand that simply because someone has more processors and chips it doesnt mean that it has a higher failure rate. Its really that simple. The fact that you correlate possible failure points with actual reliability and failures is very troubling. Daryl simple made up stats. What a bunch of nonsense.

    Analog is not more reliable. Its is pushed by those who want to make more profit. You bring up irrelevant nonsense like vm's, san and fiber when OP is dealing with a 4ch system. Really?? You dont need any of these. Stop making crap up and read the OP. Its really not that difficult.

    Anyone pushing analog in 2016 (except in rare special circumstances) is cheating the end user. Unfortunately, members here push analog because they work for companies that sell mostly analog in installers who install mostly analog. Shame on them.

    Also your statement about ip cameras having more "moving parts" is false and makes no sense. The fact that you bring up networks/switches etc, when we are dealing with a 4ch system questions your motives. Really sad and unfortunate that you are pushing analog in 2016...guess whatever pays the bills.

     

    I have hundreds of dahua and hikvision cameras in service.

     

    I respect that you have some IP cameras in the field but frankly I have single customers with significantly more cameras than you have installed. IP transport is more complicated than analog/TVI/CVI,HD-SDI you can try to argue differently but you are wrong.

    Dont really care how many you installed. You are wrong. There are lots of duchebag installers implementing 700tvl systems in 2016, and they install many more cameras than I do, doesnt make it right. Shame on them all. You have your own reasons for pushing analog. Point is IP is just as reliable is analog, even more so, with a simple sd card. You mention all the irrelevant network jargon to conflate the issue. This is a 4ch install, homerun to the NVR, none of the nonsense you mention is remotely relevant. Anyone recommending analog over ip because its more reliable is deliberately misleading the end user here.


  3. What you are saying is COMPLETE nonsense. I cant recall the last time I had to reboot an ip camera...What you are saying is only true of crap cameras. You make up probability numbers. STOP IT. You said that NVR/DVR cal lock up? what happens to all your footage when the dvr locks up? you have NONE. If you had an ip camera with SD card storage or a second cheap hidden NVR as a backup, guess what?

    Your statement that IP is less reliable is FALSE. In fact, i have just shown you how it can be MORE reliable.

    Your entire premise is based on using crap cameras with poorly written firmware...what garbage...its folks like you who have no clue that mislead others....just as you did in the other post recommending garbage wifi cameras.

     

    Boogieman you should really do a little research about electronics and to understand how IP video vs analog works before you bash people and call them stupid. You should completely dissemble single camera analog system and a single camera NVR/switch/IP camera system. Count how many chips there between the two and report back. IP is more complex then analog so there ARE more failure points. It is very simple.

     

    Now IP video is more flexible and allows you to build in redundancy but that comes as a huge cost. You can setup VM based NVRs, SAN storage, fiber rings with redundant switches but this comes at a huge cost and and adds a significant amount of complexity.

    You should really understand that simply because someone has more processors and chips it doesnt mean that it has a higher failure rate. Its really that simple. The fact that you correlate possible failure points with actual reliability and failures is very troubling. Daryl simple made up stats. What a bunch of nonsense.

    Analog is not more reliable. Its is pushed by those who want to make more profit. You bring up irrelevant nonsense like vm's, san and fiber when OP is dealing with a 4ch system. Really?? You dont need any of these. Stop making crap up and read the OP. Its really not that difficult.

    Anyone pushing analog in 2016 (except in rare special circumstances) is cheating the end user. Unfortunately, members here push analog because they work for companies that sell mostly analog in installers who install mostly analog. Shame on them.

    Also your statement about ip cameras having more "moving parts" is false and makes no sense. The fact that you bring up networks/switches etc, when we are dealing with a 4ch system questions your motives. Really sad and unfortunate that you are pushing analog in 2016...guess whatever pays the bills.


  4. Well, even Apple, Goggle, Microsoft software have bugs and security flaw.

     

    If you never ever need to restart any IP devices or seen any IP devices restart by itself, you probably haven't use/seen enough of them.

    One of the troubleshooting steps for any brand of IP equipment is always to do a power cycle (switch off and on or commonly call reboot/restart).

    Would you consider Pelco, AXIS, Samsung, HIKVision, AVTech, Bosch, Vivotek, , etc system as crap equipment/brand ?

     

    http://buildingskb.schneider-electric.com/view.php?AID=11841

    Useful for rebooting a single Sarix Camera or Encoder if Sarix WebUI is non-functional...

    note: Holding this depressed for 10 seconds triggers restore to factory default settings, which can be used to if a basic reboot attempt has failed to resolve a device functionality issue.

    You won't need this troubleshooting instruction if rebooting to resolve a ip device functionality issues is never required.

     

    Perhaps you could also recommend the perfect brand that you had been using that never ever need to reboot so that the TS could make a informed choices as well.

     

    And for the other thread, the TS wanted Cheap and Wifi, what else would you recommend ? Your perfect IP equipment ? But is it gonna be CHEAP enough for that user ?

    How to Choose Budget Level CCTV Camera?

    Now..more peoples sale cctv and surveillance security equipment with advanced feature..but same time somebody want specific features only. ex.i need day time surveillance camera using small shop. with wireless connections.

     

    so please ans..how i get minimum price. help us!

    viewtopic.php?f=1&t=50776

    You are obviously not that bright. I said I never had to reboot a camera. Yes its possible to be needed. Its extremely rare. You simply MADE UP numbers about reliability. If your DVR freezes or HD failes you now have ZERO video, how is that for reliability. There are troubleshooting guides for DVR's and analog cameras as well, does that mean they are constantly having issues? How silly...

    I have hundreds of dahua and hikvision cameras in service. Again, if you are constantly rebooting your cams you are improperly installing them or using crap cameras. You simply made up your statistics. Very sad to see amateurs like yourself give improper advice. What about the fact that if the DVR fails you have NOTHING??? Your statement is FALSE. Stop misleading innocent end users.

    Minimum price does not mean LOWEST priced crap.

    I figured out why you push analog. That is all your company installs. On your website you push 720p analog as though its top of the line HD. What a joke.


  5. Boogieman your the one giving bad advice here. IP can be very reliable but there is many more moving parts then analog/hd analog to go wrong.

     

    With IP cameras you have video processing, encoding and network card. Analog only has video processing as the encoding is done at the DVR. Once you have the video encoded on a IP camera then you have to dump that info on a network so now you have switches, routers, media converts, wireless links, network cards, ex.... Once you get the servers now you have to deal with Windows and everything else that can go wrong with a server.

     

    IP camera systems have more moving parts then their analog counter parts so there is absolutely more failure points.

     

    That's roughly what I meant. I didn't say IP is not reliable.

    TS asked if they are AS RELIABLE as analogue, which in my opinion, they are not and never will be due to the existence of more point of possible failures.

     

    Just take for example, each IP camera is also a web/video server with firmware (embedded software). Any software will have potential bugs, otherwise you'll not require software/firmware update to fix bugs. And some firmware which are not that well written can't handle exception properly and they hanged or slow down due to memory leak or some other reason. Just look at some NVR/DVR, they have a schedule reset feature to "increase stability".

     

    So for a 4 Camera system, you have 5 devices running server firmware whereas compared to an analogue system which has only 1.

    Even if all devices are equally reliable on it's own based (based on firmware), e.g. 99% reliability , for IP system, it'll be only 95.01% (99% pwr of 5) whereas analogue system is still 99% (law of probability).

     

    I don't even want to go down the path of potential security flaw in the implementation of a NVR with directly connected ip camera, which is non existent in analogue system.

     

    BUT as I mentioned, IP based system have it's own strength as well. So you got to decide based on your requirement and budget.

    What you are saying is COMPLETE nonsense. I cant recall the last time I had to reboot an ip camera...What you are saying is only true of crap cameras. You make up probability numbers. STOP IT. You said that NVR/DVR cal lock up? what happens to all your footage when the dvr locks up? you have NONE. If you had an ip camera with SD card storage or a second cheap hidden NVR as a backup, guess what?

    Your statement that IP is less reliable is FALSE. In fact, i have just shown you how it can be MORE reliable.

    Your entire premise is based on using crap cameras with poorly written firmware...what garbage...its folks like you who have no clue that mislead others....just as you did in the other post recommending garbage wifi cameras.


  6. I beg to differ.

     

    IP is never going to be as RELIABLE as Analog.

    Reliable, yes if properly installed. AS RELIABLE, no.

     

    There's a lot more failure point in a IP system than analog system irregardless of products brands or methodology of installation.

     

    However, IP systems are more flexible and scaleable. Given the same resolution of cameras specified by same manufacturer, (analoge hd and ip) the image quality on an ip camera is normally sharper.

     

    And unless you are going for those cloud storage system (which have even more failure points), internet connection shouldn't play a part in the reliability of the recordings.

     

    For your use, if you are going to reuse the cabling, go for analogue-hd.

    If you are going for a new system, depending on your budget, you can consider analogue hd or ip hd.

    IP HD is normally more expensive.

     

    Clarity of the footage also depends on your area of coverage. Consider going for more cameras if you are covering a large area.

    Using just 1 wide angle camera for your lawn and expect to capture an offender's face @ 200fts away usually means you had been watching too much CSI.

    This won't be possible unless you are using multi-megapixel cameras.

    You can beg to differ all you want. I have seen you give improper advice in other threads here. I honestly think you dont know what you are talking about and make it up as you go. You statement that there are more points of failure in an ip system is FALSE. Its made up. You need to stop spewing this nonsense.

    Take for example an IP system that is homerun to the NVR, how are there more points of failure????????????? First error.

    In fact, IP systems can be made much MORE reliable than analog (SD card redundancy, multiple NVR redundancy/hidden (much easier to implement than multiple dvrs). It sucks when amateurs give advice to unsuspecting end users.


  7. In the part year alone, I have had someone knock over my mailbox and steal small items from my yard such as plants. So I have decided to install a security system. Its gonna be on a 2 story house in Florida. I figure I can run all the wires through the attic...which is more of a crawl space and have the wires drop down to the control center in a closet. I stumbled upon a popular amazon kit and I was wondering if it is any good

     

    http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00N9HW2GQ/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_img?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1LNI24JC1WX98&coliid=I11GTGHLA4MES9

    That kit is COMPLETE junk. Its very low resolution analog.

    You will NEVER get a usable capture with it to your mailbox.

    Its 2016 your system should be 1080p at a minimum. Start researching IP cameras systems.


  8. Hi there.

     

    Have read through lot's of forum post and read countless online articles regarding the best type CCTV available, and still I am really unsure of what is best for us.

     

    The situation: Ongoing issues with vandals damaging my elderly parents car, in day and at night, parked by curb 10 meters from house.

     

    Our current setup:An 'AvTech Day and Night 420 TVL CCD Outdoor Cam' and it is connected via BNC to this DVR: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4-Channel-CCTV-Digital-Video-Recorder-DVR-500GB-HDD-/180689104424?

     

    What we need: We are looking to upgrade our system so it will be of some use in identifying the offenders. The police say our current setup is too grainy- which it is- especially at night when the majority of offenses occur. Also, I would very much like to view the CCTV remotely, as I cannot always be at my parents house and I worry so much that I would like to be able to check the footage when possible. I have a Samsung Galaxy S5 so if I could view from that, it would be great. Also, my parents have quite a good internet connection, if that makes any difference.

     

    What I've read: From what I have read, IP camera's offer the best quality, but are they as reliable as our current setup, by which I mean, will they offer constant round the clock recording, of will they fail if the internet signal drops? I've also heard that HikVision offer good quality cams, but then I am no expert myself and am really unsure. One more issue is that from what I've read, my DVR may let down the quality of a new camera or will it be needed at all? Would it be best to upgrade our entire system?

     

     

    I apologize if some of this can sound a little misinformed, I am not up with all of the latest technology anymore. I would really appreciate anyone giving me some advice on what sort of camera/ system we should be going for.

     

    Kind regards,

    odw13

    Ip is just as reliable as analog. Anyone who tells you different is installing junk products or improperly installing.

    IP cameras have nothing to do with the internet connection. NOTHING.

    You will need a new NVR. Start reading and researching. Your currnt 400tvl system is crap.

    If you dont want to run new cable, you can look at hikvisions TVI or dahua CVI systems that run HD over coax...


  9. I have just setup my DS-7208HQHI and am really happy with it.

     

    My original plan was to create a 'mask' on each camera, and only record "intrusions" and when I do this, the playback timeline is fully of little red strips showing the events..

     

    But for now, I like the continuous record feature and would like to record all the time for now to see how I go in terms of free space.

     

    Even though I am recording continuously, because I have marked out a 'mask', when I get an intrusion, I can see an "alarm" on the screen. Or I could achieve teh same using a VCA. When I go into the events list I can see the "event".. But on the playback screen, the entire timeline is blue and pretty much pointless

     

    Is there any way to show the 'events' on the timeline, even when the box is recording continuously.. It seems stupid that this isn't possible.. After all, the box knows there has been an event, so why not show it.

     

    It seems so obvious to me, that I fear (Hope) that I might have overlooked something.. Can I make the timeline show the events? Instead of the continuous blue line?

     

    Jon

    You can only view this in the NVR interface..not the web interface..


  10. It's the licence that is given upgrade status. So yes it's still in place for backward compatibility

     

     

    And that is not piracy

    Backwards compatibility? there is a 30 day period where you can revert to 7. You dont get to run dual boot 7 and 10. You need a new 10 or new 7 licence for that, just like almost any other software license where you dont retain the license to the lower version you upgraded from.


  11. Is this the first time you have upgraded software?

     

    Getting personal again are you

     

    Let me educate you and Google if you don't understand

     

    Microsoft and Linux Canonical have been partners for the last 3 months

     

     

    So again no licence problems

     

    So I stand by my post in saying YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT PIRACY.

     

    Red bull racing is using it now

    What does the partnership have to do with the issue at hand. You obviously dont understand the issue.

    User has windows 7 license, then uses it to upgrade to a FREE win 10 license. The questions is whether the 7 license is still valid. How does the partnership affect this issue?

    Guess its time to read the actual thread.

    I stand by my post that you are wrong about me being wrong about the piracy.


  12. Also stop giving users suggestions that MAY be software piracy. As I have already demonstrated you have ZERO evidence that this practice is approved my Microsoft.

     

     

    It is approved by Microsoft ..... So no problem with piracy or licence.

    No its NOT. Windows 10 is an UPGRADE from 7. Please show me where Microsoft says its allowed or "approved". There is no affirmative indication that you can use the old windows 7 license key. As with all upgrades the general rule is that the original key is no longer valid. Is this the first time you have upgraded software?


  13. Don has implied threats to report me to the state bar...you don't scare me you, has been, rat..You have stooped to a new low. This proves you have no basis for your argument when you need to resort to these kinds of threads. You are a dishonorable disgrace.

    I don't need the bars approval to post on forums... Nice try though... You are a disgrace... I will challenge you and your misinformation...

    MODS, looks at this fool threatening someones JOB over forum posts. HE NEEDS TO BE BANNED.

    Move on please. Because what's next? You claim to be Batman?

     

    viewtopic.php?p=280528#p280528

     

    I quote you:

     

    "You seem to have forgotten that I never threatemed to sue you. You threatened me with your fictitious legal team...you got scared when you found out I'm a lawyer. You need to be banned because you are a litigious moron. Don't ever threaten me ..I will not cower like others you intimidate. To me you are a rat."

     

    Look at my link above. Do you think ANY state Bar would approve of that? Worse you sponsored others as well.

     

    Yet, you're "Hell Bent" on trying to DESTROY this Forum thread. About legal issues for those running Windows. Yet that's NOT got anything to do with this "Forum Topic". Minus that I showed how I did do this with a Windows based system.

     

    Geeze, you're showing the inability of being sane!

     

    Don

    Again dont imply a threat to report me to the bar. You dont scare me. You have been proven to be full of it. You need to be banned from this and all other forums are your threats of lawsuits to other members should not be tollerated by the mods.

    Also stop giving users suggestions that MAY be software piracy. As I have already demonstrated you have ZERO evidence that this practice is approved my Microsoft.


  14. Don has implied threats to report me to the state bar...you don't scare me you, has been, rat..You have stooped to a new low. This proves you have no basis for your argument when you need to resort to these kinds of threads. You are a dishonorable disgrace.

    I don't need the bars approval to post on forums... Nice try though... You are a disgrace... I will challenge you and your misinformation...

    MODS, looks at this fool threatening someones JOB over forum posts. HE NEEDS TO BE BANNED.


  15. You cant explain why you resurrected this dying thread, other than the fact that you are infatuated with me. ;D

    You are also hereby on notice to cease and desist using ipcamtalkbs.com to promote your own website.

    You have been and remain a petty looser.

    Please feel free to sue me for whatever you wish. I'm more than prepared to deal with you. I look forward to making PUBLIC the results!

     

    Don

    You are the one who threatened me with a frivolous lawsuit and your "legal team" which consists of your computer. I dared you to sue me. Like the COWARD you are, you didnt. Any forum member who threatens lawsuits against others should be immediately banned. I hope the mods ban you.

    Move on SPARKY!

     

    Stop trying to destroy Forum threads because you have a medical problem.

     

    Don

    Stop posting lies alleging I have a medical problem. That is defamatory. Mods please ban uber.


  16. You cant explain why you resurrected this dying thread, other than the fact that you are infatuated with me. ;D

    You are also hereby on notice to cease and desist using ipcamtalkbs.com to promote your own website.

    You have been and remain a petty looser.

    Please feel free to sue me for whatever you wish. I'm more than prepared to deal with you. I look forward to making PUBLIC the results!

     

    Don

    You are the one who threatened me with a frivolous lawsuit and your "legal team" which consists of your computer. I dared you to sue me. Like the COWARD you are, you didnt. Any forum member who threatens lawsuits against others should be immediately banned. I hope the mods ban you.


  17. boogieman, Jason, fenderman, Sammy dah Boy and Sparky.

     

    Everything I have stated is truth..

    Really!!!. See this. http://www.cctvforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=280528#p280528

     

    How's this working out for you? My legal boy.

     

    Update Please!

     

    For others. Please see this link to see what this Forum thread is about: viewtopic.php?f=19&t=49894

     

    Don

    Ah you have awoken from the dead. This time using your real user name (yes we know it was you unlawfully posting on the other forum because you simply cannot stay away, despite being banned multiple times and told not to return.). Please dont link to your own post which I have already disproved as "evidence". Everything I said is 100 percent accurate and truthful. You have not disproved anything. What a looser. You are infatuated with me. I love it.

    Its hilarious that you feel the need to post a link to the first page of a two page thread so folks can see what its about..

    I think the mods on this forum should look at your last post as evidence of your instigation. Waking a dead thread (one month old) to quarrel. You need to be banned here as well.

    Im loving how you are addicted to me.


  18. Newby here…. Hi all. Just a quick question regarding High CPU usage.

    The Camera system I have setup is a local standalone system not connected to the internet. I have 3 NVR's connected to a network switch which is connected to a dedicated PC... from there I display 14 cameras on a 75" Television.

    I don’t do any recordings it is only live view for plant operators.

    The PC is dedicated only for the cameras and when I look at task manager, swannview plus (camera managing software) is the only program running with a CPU usage of 80%-90%. I need to get the CPU usage down as I would like to install 8 more cameras.

    PC specification is: Dell intel core I5-4590 CPU @3.3GHz. 16GB memory with a 4GB GeForce 730 video card.

    NVR specs : 3 X Swann NVR-87090 & 14 x NHD-835 Cameras

    12 port Cisco Network switch

    75” HI sense ultra HD TV

    I was thinking that the CPU should not process much as it should only pass the live images through.

    Is there a setting in the swannview plus software that needs to be set or in the NVR’s itself?

    I have disabled all recordings

    Could it possibly be that it’s the TV that causes the CPU to run this high? If so what can be done?

    are you viewing the pc remotely using remote access software?

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