Boogieman
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Anyone have any info on this NVR
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/16CH-UP-To-5MP-Hikvision-NVR-DS-7616NI-VP/1666936077.html
I don't see it on the Hikvision website...Is it really a hikvision? I prefer this look over the standard flat NVR because its looks like a backup battery or small pc and not an NVR...
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Geez Louise...you can get it at friggin' camera Costco for $249.99...including shipping for krikey sakes.
That one has no built-in Micro SD slot & Audio Range with $249.99....
$299.99 can do both, you pay what u get!
The Costco version (249 varifocal) does have an sd card slot even though its not mentioned in the specs....it just doesn't have audio..
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A quick search on ebay brought up this camera.For 147 bucks I'd take a shot, what the heck. Could be a winner. My Hong Kong ptz camera is in it's third year kicking ass. It's a gamble, but I'd roll the dice if I needed something like this camera. Good luck.
nice find, plus it has the alarm input and sd card storage...
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Motion detection, particularly on cheap cameras will produce TONS of false alarms from changes in lighting conditions....I have talked with a lot of people about motion detection and they have all told me that even $2000 cameras still have problem with false positives when it comes to motion detection. So any form of reliance of motion detection is off the table as far as I am concerned. A camera that can be triggered via a door sensor will be 100%, so why would I even consider anything that would be less then that.
Heres the deal, wifi in general is not reliable, although it can be ok....but it will never be 100%...considering that you need to power the camera somehow, you may as well use power over Ethernet and run a single line.I agree that wifi can be untrustworthy in some case, but In my case it has never failed me. If it becomes a problem the solution would be to use the existing power source as the Ethernet through the use of a powerline product, instead of running a whole new Ethernet line.
You may want to get two cameras so you can see what is going on at all times.I currently have two wide angle camera installed in a crisscross pattern and they do not give me complete coverage of the area I need to see.
Some cameras have built in pir motion detectors that will limit false alarms hikvision axis, av-tech make these type of cube cameras...Just for conversation sake. What exactly is PIR?
PIR http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive_infrared_sensor
you will not get any false alarms...unless you have pets..
the camera posted by cctvman requires a dvr or dvr card...
good luck finding a standalone wifi camera at 200 with ptz and alarm in. (for your door sensor)..that is also stable and reliable.... you might want to try a cheap foscam ptz, (lots of folks mount the indoor ones outside just under and eve...its junk and will probably die quickly but at your price range....)K. Or go with their outdoor model..keep in mind that you don't need the alarm in on the ptz, you can attach the sensor to a cheaper indoor camera so you get the alert....
What cameras are you currently using?
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This camera is to monitor a dementia patient. I need to be notified when the walk through the door to go outside and be able to watch their movements to make sute the go back inside. This why I need a pan and tilt camera.Heres the deal, wifi in general is not reliable, although it can be ok....but it will never be 100%...considering that you need to power the camera somehow, you may as well use power over Ethernet and run a single line.
Motion detection, particularly on cheap cameras will produce TONS of false alarms from changes in lighting conditions....
You may want to get two cameras so you can see what is going on at all times.
some cameras have built in pir motion detectors that will limit false alarms hikvision axis, av-tech make these type of cube cameras...
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why do you need pan tilt? what is the application? Generally pan tilt is a waste...you are much better off with a wide angle HD camera....
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I would like to be able to easily turn motion detection on/off for a Hik 2032. Seems this would be a pretty obvious function of the iOS app iVMS-4500. But I can't find a way to do it there.Having to fire up the PC, go to the web interface, and change it is a bit too painful. If I launch the web interface on the iPad, it doesn't look the same as the PC likely because of the missing webcomponents. In the Safari on the iPad, it does show the motion detection checkbox, but it is unchecked when in reality it is checked on the camera.
Anybody turning motion detect on/off from and iOS app?
i had a similar problem with my new Hikvision DS-2CD2432F-IW cube camera. There is no way to toggle the motion detection via the mobile app. I was able to get rob of ipcamviewer to enable the motion toggle (at least on the android app, but most likely implemented in the ios as well)...there is a defect in the firmware (I don't know if it affects the bullet cam) that sets the motion sensitivity to zero when you disable motion....so he set programed the app to set it to 40....hikvision needs to add this feature as well as the ability to toggle the PIR sensor on the DS-2CD2432F-IW cube.
You may want to try ip camviewer and select Hikvision DS-2CD2432F-IW
the firmware is the same as the bullet so the motion toggle should work...
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its most likely some ir reflection because bouncing off the wall that is close to the camera. Or something else that is reflecting the light that we cannot see in the images...or as milkisbad said a bad seal. First you need to reposition the cameras so that there is nothing close reflecting the ir light. Try that first....
Here is a great example of ir reflection caused by the camera ir's bouncing off something that cannot be seen in the video image.
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Like I said they want a cheap solution, I think foscam+BI is the most stable cheap solution. But I'm all ears...Any other suggestion?
buellwinkle's point was that its neither a solution nor cheap if the system wont work properly, wont capture useful footage and it will be in need constant repair.
give some detail about the project....how many cameras at each location? what is type of area are you covering, what is the purpose of the system?
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I have no direct experience with the analog systems but these have better specs
this one comes with lots of cameras...
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Out of curiousity, what do you guys think of Q-See setups. They seem to offer quite a bit for the money.which ones. They don't make their own stuff... so it depends on the system. What does she need to monitor? how many rooms. Like I said you may be better off with 4 hd cams vs 8 analog. What is the purpose of the system? monitor employees or to be able to id an intruder?
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I can't disagree, but something tells me even 1k is too much. I could be wrong though. WE know what's best. Clients with small budgets in mind have a much different perspective of 'good enough'. It can't always be what WE want.im not sure about that 1k budget as op mentioned the bosch cameras that were probably expensive back in the day....
also using ip cameras with better quality and ordering a wider lens, op could get away with 4-6 cameras where he though he needed 8. For example starting with a system like this http://www.samsclub.com/sams/qsee-8x4-720p-ip-secrty-dvr-bullt-cam/prod10700191.ip?navAction=
adding 2 cams you can build a system with 6 cams for under 1k....
the install would also be much easier to run cat 5 instead video and power...
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Hey guys,I need help, I haven't done a CCTV install in over a decade and my aunt wants me to install a 8-10 camera system at her business. I'm not sure what the budget will be, she asked me for a quote. I'm looking for the most reliable system for what I assume will not be a large budget. Most of what I used to install was Bosch and Dedicated Micros equipment, but that is probably going to be out of budget. I'm not familiar with many other brands. What I'm looking for is domes or minidomes and IR bullet cameras and a DVR. Any advice or info you could provide me would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Mike
get an ip camera system from Costco
don't install an outdated analog system...
these are the simplest solutions if you are not familiar with ip systems....
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Hello,I have a DVR which is currently set up and running fine. I had two modems running separately and recently eliminated the one attached to the DVR. I ran a cat 5e wire from the other modem and the DVR works fine, yet has no access remotely. Do I need to update info for the new IP address in the DVR? Do I need to change anything in the router for port forwarding?
yes you need to set port forwarding up on the router you are connecting to...is it a modem router combo? model number ?
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Looks pretty good. My only concern is that it seems to be a lot of product for only $1600. You certainly know more than me about all of this. It just seems that it's on the "cheap" side of things. Correct me if I'm wrong though. Reliability is just very important to me and I don't expect to get 8 1080p cameras with everything else I need. If that's a really good setup I will definitely check into it though.I found this. Cantek hardware. Opinions?
Prices have come down..the qsee system is good, it is a rebranded dahua system. Its from Costco, if there is ever an issue, or you just dont like it, no questions asked returns...You can also search through the posts here on hikvision, dahua, acti, cameras...
you can build you own pc and use milestone, blue iris, exacq to record...tons of options...
the link you posted is a hybrid system which you don't want if you are building new....
just because a website charges more doesn't mean you are getting a better product.
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Looks pretty good. My only concern is that it seems to be a lot of product for only $1600. You certainly know more than me about all of this. It just seems that it's on the "cheap" side of things. Correct me if I'm wrong though. Reliability is just very important to me and I don't expect to get 8 1080p cameras with everything else I need. If that's a really good setup I will definitely check into it though.I found this. Cantek hardware. Opinions?
Prices have come down..the qsee system is good. You can also search through the posts here on hikvision, dahua, acti, cameras...
the link you posted is a hybrid system which you don't want if you are building new....
just because a website charges more doesn't mean you are getting a better product.
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Can you post a screen shot of your process tab?Also a screen grab of your running cores?
Also, I would never recommend using onboard video. For video surveillance it is just bad practice, I know some will argue that it works but in general it is bad practice and not recommended. Traditionally an analog system offers live video of the bus. IP since it is compressed at the camera, the server than has to transcode the video in order to offer a live view.
For smaller systems we found the ATI 6450 2GB card outperforms the NVIDIA. Especially if you are using software from overseas, the ATI has had better performance, from years of experience in strange and inconsistent issues related to the video card.
The onboard video on the OP's pc is MUCH more powerful than the ati 6450
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Intel+HD+4600
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Radeon+HD+6450
it has more than double the power. The ati 6450 would be a downgrade. In fact
There is something else going on here...
Then new intel HD graphics since sandy bridge have been quite good. No need for a dedicated card which sucks power...
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Hi,I plan to help my friend install 2 3mp or up ip cameras. He wants to record video at various times so I am deciding whether or not a nvr is best or just use his computer. He has an i5 4670k computer which has space to store video but I dont know how I feel about running it 24/7. The software I was thinking about using was blueiris and the cameras were possibly the Hikvision DS-2CD2132-I . I may be paranoid but I worry that the computers lifespan will be decreased tremendously if kept on for months at a time recording where as nvrs are designed too(I would assume). Maybe there might even be a setting in windows or blue iris which allow computer to record in a low power mode (if possible that would be great and if not any other software that might)??
Power usage of pc can range anywhere from 50watts all the way to 250watts for something standard like this which is why its hard for me to decide given the specs I saw on a nvr stated around 30w with harddrive.
Any advice would be appreciated !
Thanks
You need to hook the pc up to a killawatt meter under load to determine how much power its going to use. Couple of things, first, the 4670k is haswell which have low power consumption. Do not over clock it. Do not use a discrete card, use the onboard video this will save lots of power.
I have had i5 ivybridge systems measure 18w at idle and 35-70 under load depending on how much load I placed on it, but every system is different. You will have lots more options with software vs nvr, but nvrs are generally more stable and less power hungry...
As far as life, I have a few systems that have been running Blue iris 24/7 for well over two years with zero issues...
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if you are not technical and want a simple solution there seem be to a bunch of used Dedicated Micros Digital Sprite LITE's on ebay...
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Max, you were right on. I has the wrong version of the firmware even though I used the link in one of the threads here. I got the right one and its working fine.
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Thanks, the earlier versions 4.0.9 and 5.0.0 don't state whether they support my camera....
I will try downloading again...
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I've run into an issue with the Swann 825CAM bullets I recently bought from Costco. Periodically they generate "smeared" frames that look like the attached image. This happens on both cameras in 3MP mode using both UDP and TCP transports; I tried switching one to 1080P mode and so far no smeared frames, so it may be an issue with the 3MP capture mode. Needless to day, these occasional smeared frames wreak havoc with motion detection, generating several false positives every hour.I recall seeing a Swann tech support rep hanging around the forum a while back; if you're still out there I'd appreciate hearing from you.
Anyone else experiencing this issue?
set the I-frame to be the same as the fps....see if that helps..
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I have a Hikvision DS-2CD753FIE that came with version 4 of the firmware. I updated it to 5.1 via tftp (I got an update failed via the browser interface). The documentation says my camera is supported by 5.1. The update says it was successful, however, I cannot access this camera anymore, not via sadp or an ip scanner.
My pc network settings are correct I set the ip address to 192.0.0.1 in the network adapter it should be picking up the camera as the default is 192.0.0.64. I am able to repeat the tftp update so I know the pc is communicating with the camera during the update. I cannot ping the camera either.
In the past, a hard reset solved this issue with the hik bullets (2032). I tried resetting this camera via the "initial set" button on back but i don't know if its actually resetting. I tried both just holding down the button for 30 seconds and also holding the button with the power disconnected then connecting power (via poe) and kept holding it for at least 30 seconds....I am out of ideas...any suggestions?
Thanks
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buster74985 is right on....additionally, wireless is not really wireless...where are you going to draw power from? If you run the cable properly you should avoid any exposed cable/conduit. But considering you need to screw the cameras into the siding, you are going to have to get permission from the owner. Best way to do this is to agree to leave the system in place when you leave. I would installed one or two poe ip cameras....indoors, get the Hikvision DS-2CD2432F-IW which has a pir motion sensor which will eliminate any false alarms.
Hikvision Domes in Low light
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Anyone using the hikvision domes in low light situations like a lounge/bar where there is basically only mood type lighting.