? Pixim Seawolf

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Hi

 

Im looking for covert cams i have an issue regarding seawolf cams, i come accross a couple on ebay:

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221152489522?ssPageName=STRK:MEBOFFX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1427.l2649

 

then i found some more:

 

http://www.securitycamera2000.com/products/690TVL-Ultra-WDR-Pixim-SEAWOLF-HD-CCTV-Mini-Camera-3.6mm-Lens-OSD-Menu.html

 

idealy i need pinhole but i know how ebay is and there is many fakes going about, i notice the shells are different, what do you guys think on these two? im in the UK so ebay cams will be better for the ordering side but as i say i worry about fakes etc

 

Also what do you guys think of these:

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221110252044?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mini-HD-700TVL-Effio-E-DSP-2-8-12mm-Manual-IRIS-Lens-Security-Color-OSD-Camera-/320917025440?pt=US_Security_Cameras&hash=item4ab82532a0

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http://www.securitycamera2000.com/products/690TVL-Ultra-WDR-Pixim-SEAWOLF-HD-CCTV-Mini-Camera-3.6mm-Lens-OSD-Menu.html

 

That is a great camera. I know it by the model name MC100PIX, and it might also come with pinhole lens, so you might ask. On the model that comes with board lens it would not be easy to install a pinhole (it would not focus).

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Great news, i will make an order shortly then although i just noticed there fromchina aswel

 

There must be a way to fucus the pinhole? otherwise they just wouldnt work or sell?

 

I have a sony pinhole on order, to be honest i really do need pinhole as these will be easier to hide

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There must be a way to fucus the pinhole? otherwise they just wouldnt work or sell?

 

The mount for the lens is different with pinhole and board lenses; the place were the lens "screws" on the camera. So usually when you have a camera that has a board lens you will not be able to focus a pinhole lens, and with the same camera that has a pinhole lens you will not be able to focus a board lens.

 

Like the following camera, they are the exact same model, but one is pinhole and the other one is board lens. You will notice that the place were the lens screws on the camera is different size.

 

The same applies to the camera you linked above, notice the difference on the one with board lens and the one with pinhole lens:

http://www.securitycamera2000.com/products/690TVL-Ultra-WDR-Pixim-SEAWOLF-HD-CCTV-Mini-Camera-3.6mm-Lens-OSD-Menu.html

http://www.securame.com/mini-camara-mc100pix-dps-pixim-13-690-tvl-01lux-37mm-osd-ultra-wdr-p-1275.html

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Thanks for that, good info i was unaware of

so a pinhold cam must stay a pinhole cam and the same with board lense cam, you can replace the size lense on a pinhole though yeh?

 

At first i missunderstood you, i thought you was saying you cant focus a pinhole cam

 

All in all these are good cams though? woud you say there better than sony effio E?

Im finding the clarity isnt great

 

Thanks

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Thanks for that, good info i was unaware of

so a pinhold cam must stay a pinhole cam and the same with board lense cam, you can replace the size lense on a pinhole though yeh?

 

That's correct, you can usually replace a pinhole lens for another pinhole lens with a different angle, and a board lens with a different board lens with a different angle. If you change the lens type, you will probably have trouble focusing the camera.

 

And the cameras are pretty good for their price (Pixim Seawolf 690tvl ultra WDR). You can surely get better cameras with Sony CCD, but I am positive that for the same price it will not be as good as this one, this one has a great quality for its value.

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Great, I will give this a go then

 

Do you know of any cams of the same size that are better? these are only £55 so like you say a good price but if funds didnt matter whats the very best of this size?

 

Many thanks for your info

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The best one I have seen/used on this size is this one:

 

http://www.securame.com/mini-camara-ivmc608hsiiosd-ccd-sony-13-color-600-tvl-000025lux-28mm-pinhole-senseup-64x-rs485-osd-p-1002.html

 

Sony 1/3" 600tvl, 0.00025lux with sense-up (starlight), OSD with many options, and even RS485 change all the settings remotely. In low light conditions it is just awesome. It has been a few years on the market already, so there might be better options already.

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http://ivisioncctv.en.made-in-china.com/product/eqPmCIkofMWi/China-Security-Mini-Camera-With-Starlight-Technology.html

 

Trying to find similar, thinking about it if anyone can point me in the direction of the very best i would be much appreciated!

 

Thanks twist, you opend my eyes, i had a little look around for yours in english but couldnt find it, perhaps there is new versions, low light versions is something i need as for now i wont be using and IR

 

Is super HAD ll CCD better than effio?

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I-Visions web site sucks and isn't updated, so you can not trust the models they list there as being the latest. They have many great models for low light cameras (with no IR), the best I have been able to test msyelf.

 

http://www.ivisioncctv.com

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I notice on some other threads all there good for is objects that dont move, they have a slow shutter?

 

Have you found problems with the clarity and face detail on movement?

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If you want to have a perfect vision with no light at all, you will need IR, either with the camera or external to the camera.