Hi, 
  
I need a day/night IR capable camera for outdoor use.  
I need a range of at least 15m in a pitch black night (ie 0 lux) as well as a clear daylight picture. 
I am in Australia, and can't get one in a store for less than Aus$200-$300+.  
  
However, I have found these 2 on ebay that seem ok on face value, but would like help in deciding which (if any) is best for my purposes and budget. Unfortunately they don't list a manufacturer so I haven't been able to find any reviews on the web. It's also not indicated whether the first one has a sony had ccd.. 
  
1.48LED 1/3" 8mm Sony CCD 420 line outdoor day/night camera $68.98 
 
  
2. 28LED Dual 1/3" 6mm Sony Super HAD CCD 420/480 line outdoor day/night camera $109.98 
 
  
 
Features: This is a super high performance TRUE day/night camera with 2 CCD built in. - For the video display, the day light wavelength and IR wavelength is different. on the market, most of day/night camera has only 1 CCD built in which can not able to provide the true image quality display. - With the new technology - Built in 2 independent SONY CCD. the JE-42480A provided 100% true color display at the day time with color CCD and super clear picture quality at the night time with B/W CCD, both CCD working independently. this new technology resolved the issue which the regular day/night camera can not be. - Day time resolution: - 420 TV lines with 1/3” SONY color CCD (100% true color display) - Night time resolution: - 480+ TV lines with 1/3” SONY B/W CCD. (crystal clear display)   - Sony super had 1/3" color CCD 420TV Lines, for unbeatable picture clarity and vividness at Day. - Sony super had 1/3" B/W CCD 480TV Lines, for unbeatable picture clarity and brightness at Night. - Powerful 28 LEDs for superb night-vision, view - range over 200ft (60m), High intensity infrared night vision illuminators. - Excellent for warehouse, home, schools, etc. safety protection, - Large CS-mount lens for much better image quality. - Heavy-duty aluminum alloy case, Vandal proof, Waterproof IP67. - Camera uses standard 12V DC power and BNC video connection. 
  
 
 Specification: Image sensor 	Sony 1/3" color CCD  and Sony 1/3" B/W CCD Resolution 	Color: 420 TV line , Black/White: 480TV line Color System 	PAL/NTSC Illumination 	0 Lux with IR LED on Effective night-vision range 	over 60m Lens 	Standard 6mm IR LEDs 	28pcs LED IR Led Average life 	20,000 hours IR wavelength 	84uint 840nM Scanning system 	2:1 Interlace S/N Ratio: 	> 52dB Electronic shutter 	1/50 - 1/100,000 sec White balance 	Auto Back Light compensation 	Auto Gain control 	Auto Video out 	1.0V p-p 75ohm (BNC connector (male)) Operator temperature 	-10--+50 Power requirement 	DC12V +10%, 500mA (LEDs on)