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  1. Well, can't find anything stating one way or another - except a couple wikipedia references that are extremely vague - so I'll take your word for it. You already proved me dramatically wrong once this month I don't think I could take it twice

     

    And I think the rep said it did because he thought they were interchangable terms too.

     

    I KNOW my D1 box is 30 Frames @ D1 so no issue for me


  2. like were you have got your information from. you say its a 480 fps at 4cif it true recording is 240fps.

     

    samsung spec SRD-1670 NTCS 480 ips is not the same as fps you have to half anything that says ips to give you to true fps.

     

    Correct me if I'm wrong but it's it:

     

    IPS(Images per Second) = PPS(Pictures per Second) = FPS(Frames per Second.).

     

    But then there is also Fields Per Second(also known as FPS) that = 2 Fields to a Frame(picture/image/frame).

     

    It's been a couple years since I've had to explain this(thank you for finally going away VCRs!) and I might be a little jumbled up, but I'm pretty sure this is accurate.

     

    And unless multiple Samsung Reps have lied to me(a possibility, but doubtful), that is a 480FPS @ D1 unit.

     

    On a side note: The Samsung will not give you IP/HD recording capability and the Aver will.


  3. Thanks for the input thorsurveillance, Have a question concerning the "decent resolution at least D1". Am I going to find anything that does better than 7fps at D1 per channel on a 16 channel system, or is this about the max for standalones in my price range?

     

    http://www.panasonic.com/business/security/demos/PSS-recording-rates.html

     

    D1@30FPS Recorders Generally cost about 3x as much as a 30@CIF / 7@D1 recorders. Take a look at the above link, select 7.5FPS vs 30FPS, and decide for yourself whether it's worth it.


  4. Also Panasonic now owns Sanyo security so how much longer will they be around?

     

    To clarify, Panasonic Global bought Sanyo Electric. Massive conglomerates generally take some time to integrate - especially when your talking about small divisions like CCTV products.

     

    I'd expect Sanyo CCTV to be around for a while - and even if they do manage to integrate the divisions quickly I'd expect the Sanyo offering to be available as Panasonic for at least a little while.


  5. Chris you tried their Suse app yet on linux? I cant even download Suse though its taking too long .. I have ubuntu but wont work with that.

    Nah, I can't stand AVTech. Can't tell you how many customers I lost selling rebranded AVTech's(this was at my previous company). They would either break down in a couple months or simply look so terrible the customer would return it.

     

    I used to joke with my product guy about the AVTech he had sitting on the bench. "Are you sure you want that thing on overnight? It's gotta be a fire hazard."

    no i meant dahua .. they have PSS for Suse Linux now .. I have it here .. but I have no Suse

     

    Oh that makes sense lol.

     

    No I haven't, didn't know it was out yet. I'll have to check it out.


  6. Chris you tried their Suse app yet on linux? I cant even download Suse though its taking too long .. I have ubuntu but wont work with that.

    Nah, I can't stand AVTech. Can't tell you how many customers I lost selling rebranded AVTech's(this was at my previous company). They would either break down in a couple months or simply look so terrible the customer would return it.

     

    I used to joke with my product guy about the AVTech he had sitting on the bench. "Are you sure you want that thing on overnight? It's gotta be a fire hazard."


  7. The only advantage that CIF would have would be that it may be at a faster frame rate but it just depends on your DVR, some can record at D1 at 30 FPS. Otherwise, if its the same frame rate, D1 is always better and there would be no advantage at all.

    +1


  8. Prodigy is VSS's house brand. Not having used or seen the cameras I can't really judge. But I figured I'd give you that tidbit at least. It's not really a secret, they call it "prodigy by VSS, inc" on their website.

     

    From my experiences at a previous company, Vitek is a mix of quality depending on what your looking at. They are a step above most of the dime a dozen imports in support.


  9. Same with the lens calculations... Is 16mm on a 1/3" ccd through an 850nm ir pass filter REALLY a different FOV than the same withouth the filter?

     

    Nope, exactly the same FOV.

     

     

     

    Bean00 what i was saying was not to record in D1 (like bosh says) cif/ 2cif/ does not matter which. the software you get with the camera is what you zoom into the plate with not the dvr. (you do the zooming on a pc it also comes with enhacement tools)

     

    using a lens calculator .............. yes its fine for a standard camera the REG-X at 8.3m is dead will not see anything at all .......... so no point using the lens calculator.

     

    I apologize, I think alot of this debate we've been having revolves around me misunderstanding what your saying.

     

    You are absolutely correct in stating that the REG-X does have a max range(due to the IR pass filter and the cameras IR distance). And this is something I wasn't taking into account honestly. I've worked with mostly REG-L1's and my one customer that did use these also used a number of 850nm IR bullets for overview that helped with the illumination of the scene(850nm is what the REG-X is "tuned" for.)

     

    To retract my previous statements regarding this camera: While I know that the REG-X does shoot a bit farther than the specified limits, it's not much farther and it's a very good idea to stick within the specified limits with this camera. This is due to the overall IR range.


  10. Camera specs:

    +1 Rather high S/N ratio for one of those cameras

    +1 They list 30m IR Range, so 20m is more realistic. Most of those domes won't even do that much.

    -1 They don't list Effective Pixels. Could simply be left off, but it's possible its a 350-420TVL camera they are passing off as a 540TVL.

     

    Usually these "eye-ball" cameras have whatever cheap guts the manufacturer can put into them(which is a shame cause those housings rock.), so unless they specifically ordered it with a better CCD DSP combo it probably isn't the greatest camera.

     

    DVR specs:

    -10 AVTech DVR(I believe).

     

    Specs well, but video is generally low quality, and I've had an absolute ton of DOA's selling rebranded AVTechs at a previous company

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