rory

very cheap cameras

square poles are great for any camera installation, but not as cheap as the round ones (at least not down here). The square ones look nicer also, especially if painted properly. I have never installed on a round one, yet, until the need arises as it may already exist at the clients location, but normally you will need a pole adaptor for the camera mount. Most PTZ manufacturers have this in thier inventory. If the pole is large like the size of a lamp post, then more than likely you will not need an adaptor.

check out www.NVT.com lots of UTP cable products, from just the small transmitters to the big 32 port hubs up to 1.5 miles. Not sure what metres are in feet, let us know.

you will have to pay shipping, and what about customs import taxes? Also, what about support, you would have to ship it back to the US then wait for them to ship you another, if it goes bad, its electronic so it can go bad at anytime. I always buy local unless its really a huge difference in price, as far as most other things go anyway. I pay $1000 for a computer here, for example, but I can get the same in the US for $399. But then if something goes bad, I have to ship it back, wait for them plus pay shipping and customs tax again.

cool, let me know how it goes. is it the Advanced one or standard? Rory

they even have the WaveReader software! http://www.vista-cctv.com/index.html

Also, i was just looking at the vista Columbus series DVRs, notice they are exactly the same as the Kalatel DVRs, in looks anyway, even the single channel DVR is identical to the Kalatel VDR! Except they have blue buttons on them, are they related to GE? OR maybe the lease the technology out or from GE (kalatel) in the US?

ok yep, i see. by the way, its 6am here, im logging off to get some sleep! good luck with it, looks fine now.

camera 2 looks ok, except its looking at the TV ) cant see the settings in the datasheet, as the image is too small when you enlarge the PDF, and manuals anywhere, I looked but havent found it.

whats the password & username also there should be a setting on the camera to set it to DD. Also, does the camera have a manual online that we can look at to see the settings? Rory

as a general rule, what is the farthest distance you can make out a persons face at, using different lenses? i was thinking maybe 50' max no matter what lens, from the start of the lens focal point, at the center of the lens? Rory

nice, except its linux, for a couple hundred more, you can get a real embedded OS.

I didnt see any improvement with a 1/2 inch lens camera over a 1/3 inch, which i ended up switching the camera to. I used a 1/3 inch lens on the 1/2 inch camera and it looked the same quality as with a 1/2" lens on the 1/2" camera, except the focal lenghts were different, you could not get a wide angle without a peephole type of image.

yes, but I wouldnt use XP, use 2000 instead if you must use a PC based system.

yeah I know, but if they want to see directly below or near the camera, then they need at least a 4mm, but then they wont see as the persons face beyond 50' thats what Im trying to find out, what is the normal distance, say using a 4mm lens then. I know with my 3.6mnm bullet I cant make out a persons face 'clear' beyond like 30 feet. Rory

yeah but if the person is 50' from the camera, or lets say 75' using a 4mm lens then its hard to see their face. What im asking is regardless of which focal length used, say if youare using a 8-10mm and they are 125' away, there is a limit to how far the camera will see. What im asking is what is the normal distance that you can capture a face from the start of the lens focal length? Like if the clients should have say 3 cameras but only want 2, but with 2 they will not see as much/far as they could using 3. Rory

yeah, im looking for a device now that acts like the no ip software, for the stand alone DVR, anyone seen anything like this, so I dont have to leave the computer on all the time. Thanks Rory

I viewed one of their software, probably was the PC based one, wasnt that great, but it wasnt bad also. I like the look of that mini Kodicom Stand alone 4 channel DVR, and US pricing on that anywhere, i searched google but cant find a price. Thanks Rory

yeah thanks, I got it a while back, working with routers with port forwarding, works great and saves me the extra $100 for cable that they want for another IP.. Rory

does he mean what software controls the boards, or what the programming is that is on the board?

yeah there is also noIP.com, its free and does the same, you run a small program on your computer which monitors it. But then you need to leave a computer on 24/7, for stand alones it is annoying. Does anyone know if there isa seperate device that will do this? Rory

Anyone have any ideas, tested etc. Ive only used the Sanyo so far, has alot of settings etc, but a pain to install. I notice the Ganz ZC domes have easier installation and more options, but no day/nigh version. Any others out there. I see Kalatel has one, but havent tried it yet, and doesnt seem to have all the options like the Sanyo and Ganz. ROry

ok thanks. I reviewed their software but it doesnt look very impressive But it the price is good then its good for me Yes, direct is pretty expensive all around, ill check out vsscctv. got up at 6.30 am this morn for a change (normally 9.30) to clean my appartment and busted my head open on a pump room roof (blood and all covered my face so much i couldnt see! and right now its a huge bump & cut), while filling bucket with water, didnt realise it was so low, anyway, right here curing it with some bud light! I always get injured when I mop, last time i stepped on a nail!!

yeah i guess the storesafe since kalatel was taken over by GE was loadedwith features though, but more are needed like: fps/pps status on remote view more than 1 audio input removable HDs (though they probably use SCSI HDs) built in DVD-RW (instead of CD-RW) USB/Flash Back up & or back up to PC with firewire cable etc any more ideas, I can pass it on to them for review, or at least they pass it on to someone else in that dept. Im sure they will eventually come out with some if not all or more than these, but like you said it may take some time. I just like the easy install and stability, and it has all the features my clients need, for now! Alot of it is software related to remote video though.

yep, there are ofcourse other factors that may cause problems. Im talking about very short distances, all cameras in the same room (retail store). Normally I only use the Altronix Fused Power Supplies, unless I have a very long run which will use its own power supply near the camera. Just saying I didnt have a problem with the '1' job i used a single 2a power supply 15-18 V for those messed up cheapo kmart type cameras! Then again i wouldnt even throw them in the same catagory as CCTV!