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ok then you are good to go

I dontknow, you lost me! Its whatever the normal terminology is for internet speeds, KB. My ISP sais: 512kbs Rory

128 Kilobits.

I used DSL here for 0ne month, which had 128 up, and it was very slow video. Rory

looking for a DVR similar in look or features to the Kalatel storesafe with CDRW etc. Im looking for something as a 'cheaper' alternative, and something I can buy out of the US, as long as im still here in the bahamas

ive sent it to the US contact. Rory

PM me your email so I can pass it on to my contact Rory

nah, im sticking to ME, its twice as fast as XP Plus my web server runs on ME, dont like XP version IIS. Id go back to 95 if my hardware would support it, as 95 is still the fastest. (sorry, DOS actually!) No, I wouldnt put it on a ME machine, id use 2000. XP is just a terrible OS, okay for non tech users I guess. 2000 is better though and most business networks use that over XP. I just cant stand XP's features, it tries to do too much for you itself, plus it takes up more CPU and more memory. I havent seen an XP mabcine yet that can match a windows ME machine's speed. I can accept the rare crash once in a blue moon. windows 98, crashes 3 times as much as windows ME, since i upgraded to ME, never touhed 98 again. I have XP on my 2nd partition here, but i havtn used it in a long time, too sloooow an OS. When MS releases its next OS (not 20003 server), XP will more than likely get discontinued, with its 30 odd hot fixes it requires, it just isnt worth it. I just like speed is all MS only came out with Xp because it is easier for regular users and most people dont know how to tweak ME to make it run smooth. They not too soon after releasing XP realised they had another failure of an OS. Sometime soon they will hopefully realse an OS that actually works FAST like 95 did, require less hot fixes, and give less errors, and have the driver support of XP. So far none of their newer OS do this. Ofcourse there is an easy way to tweak XP also, but still doesnt make it as fast as ME is. NT based systems were always slow running the same hardware as win98/ME, but their biggest failure was always windows 98 for upgrading from 95, it just dragged and dragged. I notice though some people dont realize how slow heir computers really are. From windows 98, thats when Defraging bcame a requirment, which in 95 was not needed. My 600Mhz Compact Laptop running ME runs faster and smoother than a new 2.8 Ghz Intel win XP tweaked machine side by side, right here in the same local.

Sorry, yes, but searching is not like on a StoreSafe or all in one. No, Motion dection must be built into the multiplexer, always. The VDR supports it. Some more basic versionsof muxes dont have motion detection, including the lower end Lite Q Kalatel Muxes. Check the muxes manual to be sure it it supports it. Rory

That might work out fine. They are currently running no audio or remote access at the schools. Like I said, I really didn't read into the VDR much, but I imagine you can record as many cameras as the multiplexor allows, right? As stated before, they are running Pelco multiplexors. I just need to make sure the VDR's are compatible with pelco. Also, does it have the same call back/search options that the others have? Thanks, Brad It works with Pelco. I has less featires thn the others, its just like a VCR, but high digital quality. If you need the search fatures you wouldn need one of the others. The single channel DSR-2000 or 1000 dont have ny search features either, only the all in one units. You however can use the network to seardch the DSR-2000 or 1000's. Rory

the VDR is high quality recording like the others, only it doesn not have audio or remote / network access. Yes its a nice unit for those that dont need those 2 options. On a side note, ATV has a couple nice Multiplexers aht should wotj with the DVR, that havd IR remote Controls, they have 2 budget BW version,s a 4 channe land an 8 channel both Black & White though. Rory

could be my system also, like my video card, thoiugh I saw something about operating system not supported.

Hi Its a full featured DVR/Mux, 4,10 or 16 channels, 40, 80, 160 or 250GB. It comes in 2 options, standard, or advanced. The advanced has POS intreface, audio and Keypad Support. If you want email/PM me and I can send you the PDF. It has too many features to mention. It is very stable, very compact, and requires no maintanance. Plugand Play, easy to install and simple to use. Straight forward network connection set up. DHCP support is included. Rory More iNfo: StoreSafe Triplex This multichannel recorder adds Triplex capability: Watch live and playback images while it records. Display multiscreen views on two monitors. Search for recordings with motion in a target area. An embedded operating system ensures your recorder’s working when you need it. DVMRe digital recorders use a proprietary, embedded operating system. The result? Your digital recorder won’t be prone to system crashes like PC-based recorders: It will deliver continuous, reliable performance. And the stored video that’s so important to protecting your facility is safer from worms and viruses. Viewing software lets you access your recordings while at home or on the road. With the WaveReader software, you can connect to any DVRMe digital recorder in your network to view live or recorded images. Or connect using a modem. WaveReader opens your recorders to users who need access to them, and it enables you to check in on the business while you’re at home or on the road. WaveReader viewing software WaveReader software gives you remote access to live or recorded images through a network or telephone connection. WaveReader ships with all DVMRe models and other Kalatel DVRs. WaveReader extends the advantages of digital recording to authorized users anywhere on your network—or anywhere in the world. Using WaveReader, you can view live video from any camera in your network or search for recorded images by camera, time and date, alarm, event or receipt text. You can choose from a variety of screen display modes, from full-screen to a 64-way multiscreen view. Once you have the images you want, WaveReader lets you enhance them by zooming in on selected areas or adjusting contrast, hue, sharpness and more. Then you can save images or even e-mail them to law enforcement officials or others. You can also control pan/tilt/zoom cameras.

yeah, but it should work on all poular OS's, ME still being one of the most used. I test on 98, ME, 200 & XP.

windows ME or XP? With my ME it crashed 3 times i tried it.

i tried that link, wont work on windows ME. Makes the whole system crash in a bunch of funny colors, and I have to restart, that turns me off straigh away! Only happened on on other card posted on this forum, other card software work fine.

exactly, you are also paying for the software, embedded or not. Even embedded DVRs, need to pay another company who writes that embedded OS, so it gets even more expensive, then add a SCSI Hard Drive etc. and the price jumps up. So for eg. a Linux or windows 2000 all in one costs alot more than an embedded DVR, as that OS is cheaper, but their actuall software costs money still, so either way it is going to cost. For example. Average Alarm Central Station software costs $7000 for a certain amount of users, even SQL server costs $1000 last time i checked,. software is not cheap. Logitech software is extremely limited and is not a recorder.

stand alones cost even more, $3000 retail for a 4 channel name brand DVR/Mux all in one! But its stable and can run for years without any maintenance.

your logitech web came cant go outdoors, the quality is not high res, it doesnt have the high end power boards of pro cameras, and alot more reasons, its not CCTV technology. You cant leave a web came going 24/7 all year long, for 5 years warrantied. Home VCRs are cheaper than time lapse industrial VCRs, but they arent designed to run 24/7 all year long. A CCTV Monitor can run 24/7 all year long, for several years, but a TV cant. Thats the real difference. CCTV is an industrial 24/7 all year product. Run the web cam 24/7 for a month or so and see what happens Hardware wil lfail or software will definately crash, probably after just a few days.

ok, thats why I said ask you guys about that area

if its for your home, just get the cheaper one, it should be fine. If you have any doubts, and have the extra cash, then get the more expensive one. Its only PC based, not a all in one DVR, so its not all that expensive and you are not tied down to it for life, you could always sell it to a friend if you want to upgrade. Rory

now using the same example of a kalatel all in one DVR (or mux with seperate DVR), I have used a local 10/100 network, with 10 cameras, using their network software, and I get the video in just about real time, basicaly as fast as the network and mux will work together. So that may answer your question. Depends on the mux.

dont know about GeoVision But using a kalatel standalone as an eg. With a Mux/30pps all in one DVR, 10 cameras, in multiscreen mode, you will see the largest images in real time, the smaller ones in mux mode. If you view one camera in full screen, it is real time. Basically it is analog so it is real time (correct me if Im wrong please). Now for PC based I have seen them streaming real time also. But I may be wrong. I all depends on the multiplexer technology, not the recording part of the system. Rory

avconsult may be able to help in this area. I think thiugh that what ever speed you can view it on locally, is what yo uan view it on over the internet, depeding on net speed.Normally you will see it real time locallly, at least with standard muxes, though standard muxesalso dont always show you real time locally, as you are splitting up the video amoing a lot of cameras. In other words 1 camera system may be real time, 4 will be slower, but it has nothingto do with your recording speed, just the amount of cameras, the mux and the internet. Rory

anywhere I can download the windows software from to demo? I want to make a good 12-16 camera PC based DVR for clients who cant afford the Kalatel Units. Rory