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Man you need to move to Aussie land... less taxes.

I would not say that all standalones are more expensive, I can buy a complete standalone DVR for the price of a Geo card.

Just takes a long time to find a good supplier.

What is the companies website?

I would like to know more of Allnet?

I tried to install your software, howver the first time it appeared to have a missing codec and I only got black pictures, then I tried the other one you recommended but it did not install cleanly and then it wrapped itself around my Sys32 files, which my system did not like at all. It crashed my computer and I had to do a system restore. I will admit though my system is a little different to most so it could just be me. Do they have simple webview yet?

Everyone wants, fast big pictures!

PC Mostly necause of the features, however standalones are much more stable.

Send me your resume

Gee extreme has some nice looking stuff, some well put together gear. Bet its pricey though!

Ok will try again... hay do you have ICQ, would be easier than posts?

I have XP Pro, tried it on XP Home as well and 2000, all the same, checked active x controls, only thing I havent done is reboot, about to try that now... will download the other one and try it out. will let ya know

What was the bounce notification.. can you please post it up here so I can see the error?

I have pretty tight security on my mail server, you don't have any attachments wiht it did you? I did recieve 1 email with the I/P. but as I said it connects but blue screens only!

Joel,

I didn't think that there were factories manufactoring DVR cards in Ontario, are you the manufactorer as you state or the distributor?

Very cute

Mate its not working, connects ok but cant see any pictures, Perhaps I need a codec that is not on my system?

Any pointers?

I will email you to get the password and I/P..

Cheers!

Basically the firewall is before the port forwarding (well not really) but for discussion purposes it is.

What the firewall will do amongst other things is only allow a certain range of I/P addreses to connect to your router, for example you might only want your home I/P address to connect to the router therefore anyone else trying to hack you can not get it. (it is alot more complicated than that).

Basically if you turn your firewall on or if it is on by default then you need to allow the same things as you have done with the port forwarding. To be honest I always use the firewall, however unless you have sensitive material on your network, you may not want to. If you use Outlook and have a client database then I strongly recommend it, or do not connect your DVR to your internal network.

Hope this helped!

Vlado Damjonovski has written a book called CCTV it is my bible and a great investment, howver it is rather technical.

http://www.cctvlabs.com/Books/book.html It is well worth a look, if you decide to order, tell him you spoke to me and he should look afer you.

I have never used a Lynx router before, however I would imagine that the principles would be the same.

You have obviously paid for a static I/P from your ISP and this is your external window to the world.

If you can imagine that your Street is the internet, your House is your router and your Garage the computer and your Car the DVR.

Your street can let access to many houses, however yours has a specific address, this is the address that the rest of the world can get to you with and it is where to find you, this is your Static I/P address and is your EXTERNAL network to the internet.

Your house has a main door but it also has a number of windows, back doors etc etc, these are the ports on your router. When you want to protect your house from intruders you activate the firewall (lock all doors and windows) you can still get in the front door but only if you have the key to do so.

Most remote application software will use a TCP port and the manufactorer should be able to tell you which one it uses (in other words, which window to use to get in). However every time you go in through any port or entrance you are still entering the House (router). When you use the remote software you are trying to connect to another device on your INTERNAL Network, you are trying to get to the DVR (car). What your Router does is act like a butler for you, if you enter the house from the window(port) then the butler knows that everytime you enter this way you would like to go to the Computer (Garage) but if you come in the back door (another port) then the butler knows that you would like to go directly to the DVR.

This is called Port forwarding, you can set your Router to forward the port that the remote software uses to direct you to the car (DVR). You need to make sure the Car is parked inside however and at the same spot all the time. This is called fixing your internal I/P address, Microsoft invented some I/P numbers that will work only inside a network and will not work outside of it, you can use this to Fix your Internal I/P for both your DVR and your computer, you then tell the router to forward all enquiries on a certain port to the fixed I/P address of the DVR.

If you do not do this then when you are sitting elsewhere connecting to your Static I/P at your router it will try to send you to where it is told to or where your I/P address for the DVR was last time, however it may well have changed.

In short you need to configure the router to port forward the port that your software uses to the DVR and this will be in the port forwarding section of the router, if your device has a built in firewall, you will need to do the same with it. Most routers allow for remote configuration, so if you get stuck mate email me and I can do it from here for you. digitalsecurity@westnet.com.au

What would you like to know?

I agree with all the posts above, It is not about quality of picture it is about the time it will take before it breaks, you wont find anyone in this forum that has security business selling those type of cameras unless they are a new business. I am betting your friends system is not that old?

Sometimes you get lucky, however from my experience the cheaper the camera the less time it lasts and the less quality the picture. In security you are relying on being able to prosecute the person you catch, and believe me they are indeed getting much smarter, hence the need for faster frame rates, digital technology and most importantly digital watermarking.

This is the most true statement ever " In security you get what you pay for ".. Ask your self this much..."What type of car do you drive?" "Why didnt you buy a cheaper one?"

Probably because you needed it to be reliable!

One other thing, always buy a system that will allow you to upgrade and make sure you can plug more cameras in at a later date!

I hope this helped.

You have some very usefull information on that site... Once again... unless you know someone who has tested a cheap card I would stear clear of them.

Very good point, that is why in most of my posts I recommend going through a distributor, however you do get warranty from a manafactorer, but yes as you rightly pointed out it is at the expense of waiting for that unit to come back.

I noticed Rory that you promote Kalatel a lot in these forums and I would never like to advise anyone to shortcut a distributor, but in some cases you are paying far too much for the gear. For example you buy some cameras from Pro Video that originally come from Korea www.koreacctv.com so you are not buying from a manufactorer. The problem is that manufactorers are starting to sell direct and this will mean that you will eventually have end users buying direct and although this will only happen till something actually breaks and they have to wait for their gear to be returned.

What tends to happen is that they get exposed to the price, even if they dont buy.. this causes you grief because when you go to sell it to them they compare your price to the Manufactorers and talk you down in price.

This may not happen where you are but is a big problem for people in larger countries as there soon will be no margin at all.

You can buy them from Asia and have them imported. they cost $200 US so I assumed someone would have already been importing them. I cant imagine it costs much more than $100US to import one piece including customs and freight.

Not just your country mate!

Has anyone ever seen a book that exists like this, I think it would be very handy to have a leaflet that could be handed to customers to help the customer make an informed decision

Something to consider:

If you have equipment costs already, then could you afford to not have it secured?

To be honest, security is a lot like buying a car, yes you can buy a system without all the bells and whistles and of lower quality, but will it do the job.

Too often good security companies are beaten on quotations by competitors cutting costs, which is great for the consumer untill they actually want to prosecute the person they catch.

There are a lot of overpriced solutions and there are always systems that have things that you wont need, however you do tend to get what you pay for. You can buy a cheap standalone Mux/Quad/DVR Hybrid device for around $300 US but cameras, you will not get good ones at that price.

Hope this helped