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    There are plenty of 8 port poe switches(with all ports POE) that are fanless.

    http://www.amazon.com/Fanless-Managed-Desktop-Switch-GS1900-8HP/dp/B00GU1KULM/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1417032570&sr=8-2&keywords=managed+poe

    One of the benefits of poe is that you dont need to homerun everything....This makes for VERY easy installs where in the past you had to homerun all the coax...

    With this managed switch you get the benefit of the full control as well...

    The only true benefit to using an NVR with poe is that its doesnt require any real network knowlege because you just hook the camera up and you are good to go.....

     

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    Re-read my post and take note of words local warranty. If you are fine with no local warranty or support then sure you can put something together on the cheap.

     


    Back to the OP's question, cannot recommend anything unless we know info on the house, what areas are being monitored, distances. If you want something basic get a few 2MP Hikvision Domes and be done with it, make sure they are IP66 rated for outdoor use.



    If you want a local warranty and support you can put together the system for around 2000 from either costco or LTS, as well as nellys or wrightwood...Your suggestion that the OP needs to stretch his budget by a decent amount is wrong...furthermore advising him to wire rg59 is bad practice...even if he ran analog it would be smart to use cat5/6...for future upgrades..


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    Z2TT, you are mistaken again..the extra run from the poe switch to the NVR is irrelevant and not counted in the total run..as long as there is an intervening poe switch it doesn't the additional run does not impede performance...The NVR;s with built in poe switches are noisy and creates issues when trying to access the camera interface itself (you will need to hook the pc up directly to the NVR to be able to reach that cameras that have ip addresses that cannot be accessed via the network, some newer hikvision nvr have a virtual server feature..but that is still not the norm)...

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    There are lots of systems under 1k 300-500 but they wont work with the cheap cameras..with an NVR you need to match manufacturers or you are asking for trouble...Whatever you do make sure to run cat5/6 cable now while you have the walls open...you can run cheaper cameras with a pc based nvr software like blue iris...but if i were you i would get a hikvision camera like the 2532-is (s version with audio) they have SD card slots..you dont even need an NVR if you dont need long term recording...get the 2.8mm version to cover large areas/rooms...they can be had for about 150...just get a few of those until you figure it out..it makes no sense to get an NVR and then decide on the cameras later..

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    You have purchased the wrong injectors...those are specific to ubiquiti...they are not true poe standard 802.3af compliant..they will not work with your cameras at all..return them asap..

    If you want injectors get these injectors (select injector not splitter or kit)

    http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-PoE150S-Gigabit-Injector-compliant/dp/B001PS9E5I/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1416977530&sr=8-1&keywords=poe+injector

     

    or you could just buy a poe switch, this one will power 4 cameras (the other 4 ports are not poe, just standard ports)

    http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-SF1008P-100Mbps-8-Port-802-3af/dp/B003CFATT2/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1416977620&sr=1-1&keywords=poe+switch&pebp=1416977653577

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    If you are going to use a standalone NVR use a hikvision NVR...there are a bunch of models, research and compare the specs...DO NOT buy an NVR from another manufacture...it will only cause trouble..

    Your other option is to use pc-nvr software...IVMS from hikvision is free. Other options include milestone, exacq and blue iris (blue iris will require a modern 4th generation i5 but preferably i7 pc for 8 cameras)...the other software can run on an i3 or less because they use in camera motion vs software motion detection)..

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    If you are looking for a 12 camera security camera system for Under $2k, then by all means wire the house up with RG59, you will be looking at a basic analog system in this case. If you want to spend more for an IP System, then wire the house with quality CAT6

     

    If you want a good quality IP Camera System for a 12 Camera system with a decent resolution you will definitely have to stretch that budget up by a decent amount if you want a decent setup with local warranty.

     

    Hikvision are good, and there are many other manufacturers to chose from that are also good.

     

     

    What pricing are you looking at for Hikvision? If you can't put a 12 camera IP system together using Hikvision products for $2K, then you're buying from the wrong people.

    Agreed Z2TT is quoting contactor pricing...OP has someone running the cable, and appears to be doing the install himself...you can do a cam dollar system for 1600..regardless rg59 should not be run in a new install.you can do analog over ethernet...or at least run ethernet as well, because its going to be a pain to run it later..

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    I think q means to use something like this...its cleaner http://www.amazon.com/Passive-Injector-Splitter-5-5x2-1-Connector/dp/B00NRHNPUA/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1416890338&sr=8-4&keywords=passive+poe&pebp=1416890383260

    make sure you get the right size..

    or

    http://www.amazon.com/SMAKN%C2%AE-Gigabit-Passive-injector-ethernet/dp/B00LS5OCTQ/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1416890338&sr=8-6&keywords=passive+poe

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    I'm trying to figure out what it will cost to put a camera system together. My plan is to start out with cheap cameras and upgrade them one at a time as time goes on and I was originally hoping to find them for about $50 each but it seems like that is unrealistic. I realize this will cost more in the long run, but I'm also looking at short distances where I don't need a lot of detail.

     

    i should also mention i want something that will work. When i say cheap, i mean i want the cheapest that will actually function as advertised.

    hikvision 2032 bullet or 2332/3332 turrets...

    The 2032 can be had for 85 dollars on aliexpress,.

    The 2332 can be had for about 95 and can be had with a 2.8mm wide angle lens...and has very good ir.

    .dont waste you money on total junk..

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    I currently have 5 3mp hikvision cams running from a Dahua NVR4208-8P but when I set the image quality to full there is stuttering on the screen and the output will actually freeze, setting the image quality to medium resolves the issue. I'm sure its due to the processor in the nvr and it's just too much to handle. Overall the nvr is pretty good except for that issue. Can you recommend a more robust NVR or would I be better running some type of server with a more robust processing speed? I was thinking a i3 lenovo server running win 7 or even server 2012. Also If I go this route is it better to get a dedicated graphics card or can I get by with integrated graphics. Thanks in advance.

    You dont need a dedicated graphics card regardless of the software used...why dont you just run hikvisions free vms on the pc?

    There are lots of options paid options, xprotect, exaq, and a bunch of others but they wont come cheap...Blue iris is great and has tons of options but will require an i7 haswell (fourth generation for those cams and to have some headroom)...i think your first mistake was runing hikvision cams on a dahua nvr...dont mix and match regardless of what they say..if you get an NVR then get a hikvision...

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    The paid features I don't need for this particular case.

     

    CPU load of iSpy currently is around 20% (for one cam ) indeed too high in my opinion. I'm gonna fiddle with the frame rates and detection options...

     

    Really no other suggestions for software?

    You must have a weak cpu...what model are you using...The exact model not just i3 or i5 as that is meaningless without specific version..

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    You can try using dahuas tool and see if that works...if you are able to find the default ip address you dont need the tool at all...you can log directly into the camera by hooking your camera up to the pc (or pc to poe switch, with no router attached) and changing the ipv4 address settings..there are bunch of posts on how to do it here...

    As an aside, you should not be mixing and matching ip cameras from other brands with your NVR..its just asking for trouble...the feed will work but motion detection and alerts may not.

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    I installed this dome camera outdoor and the 3 screws holding the body is only very thin.. one can just pull the whole dome cam off with one hand. How's your experience about installing dome camera outdoor? It appears bullet cam has metal base/body while dome camera has thin plastic case.. Have you come across metal dome cam? But since it is not good to mix different brand nvr and ip cam due to unable to control motion detect or even stream setting. Is it possible to put some kind of armor into an existing plastic dome camera?

    What camera did you install? if you can pull it off with one hand you did something wrong...what did you screw it into?

    Keep in mind that once someone gets to the camera, regardless of how strong you have it mounted they can just cover it with tape or spray...

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    Cat5e is sufficient but i would still go cat6, in the grand scheme of things its 100 bux to future proof and have a better quality cable. Cable problems is not something you want to hassle with and rerun.Also ensure that your cable is SOLID COPPER not copper clad aluminium (CCA).. and use solid cable not stranded.

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    Run cat6...you can use baluns if you later want an analog system..but its nuts to run analog cables or an analog system when you have this opportunity of open walls..run as much cable and conduit to locations where you may want a connection as possible

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    I suppose I should have been more specific than "budget" I don't mind spending £80-£120 GBP which I would consider to be budget but not the very bottom of the market.

     

    Would this be any good? Does it have smart IR? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16881400025

    That is the same camera internally, but in a bullet version...it will not give you the wide angle you need as its not available in your budget range..

    The 2132 dome is only two axis and cannot be wall mounted..

    I would look at the hikvision 2332 turret with a 2.8mm lens http://www.hikvision.com/en/Products_show.asp?id=7872

     

    Given your budget you might consider the hikvision DS-2CD2532-I(S) or DS-2CD2512-I(S) mini dome cameras with 2.8mm lenses...the ir is a weaker but that is not an issue at the front door...they include a built in mic (S model only) and sd card slot to record locally.

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    Do not wire with rg59 you will be severely limiting the systems you can use. Wire with CAT6 (solid copper not copper clad aluminium)

    with rg59 you will be limited to using SDI, CVI or similar technology...you want to be able to use ip cameras...Its should be a crime to wire new construction with rg59 for security camera purposes..

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    Those cams you linked to are crap..how are you going to plug it into your computer? what software? you need a card for those BNC connectors...the image will be terrible

    Get a few of these ip cameras http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Dahua-1-3-Megapixel-720P-ONVIF-3-6mm-20m-IR-Bullet-IP-Camera-12v-PoE-IP66/514412_1378587409.html

    Run dahuas free pss software on your pc...you will need a poe switch..about 50 bux for 4 ports poe..

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