Eye Hunter

Hi. You might find that a app called pocketcloud will be better for you

Thanks Tom. That's a remote desktop controller, right?

That's basically what I'm using now, a different app called Teamviewer which is a very good app it's just a little cumbersome compared to the app I'm looking for or any other CCTV specific app.

Bump.

Still looking.

Hi all,

 

I have had a run in with some bad NVR units bought on Amazon, FLOUREON to be presice, which both died shortly (1yr) after setting it up. I was just wondering if you could shed some light on a way of setting up either a Linux based system or Windows 7 PC for use with a DVR H.264 set of cameras already located in the shop.

 

I want reliablity over anything, and I know that an actual PC is reliable and if it does go wrong, I can replace the parts very easily! Where as these cheap china knockoffs on Amazon are full of cheap parts which tend to go wrong, I'm even cautious of the better brands now, so PC alternative would be ideal.

 

I already have the machine, and I already have 2 hard drives. One for the OS and one for storage. I already have the software from the previous CCTV system that was on Windows which fed from the original CCTV NRV box... But I am doubtful if this would work at all without the main NVR box it just viewed/played and recorded the video.

 

 

Any ideas on how I go about it?

 

In short:

Windows or Linux?

Which software - free if possible.

Which Capture card? - under £50 if possible but over is fine? And has to be mini PCI-E or USB based.

The right cables, convert from Coaxial to VGA?

Is it possible?

 

 

Thanks,

Kragle

The software will come with the card you purchase. To choose a card, not sure, read the reviews?

It's a fairly easy endeavor. I've been running 4 cameras on a Dell Dimension 4600 (XP) that I garbage picked from the recycling center for 10 years now (24/7/365) without any issues. I've committed myself to an upgrade as soon as it quits but it just won't quit!

The card I used is branded Swann PC DVR 4 Net but is (was?) available in many other non-branded incarnations.

https://www.amazon.com/Swann-PC-DVR-4-Net/dp/B0007OKRIY/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

I use old hard drives for storage and it can run about 14 months with a 60 gig HD as the slave.

This is not a slick/high quality system but it does the trick quite competently. The issue is now, because of it's age is I can't find the old version of the remote viewing/playback app for Android anymore as I have some newer cell phones.

I'm sure I'll find something eventually.

Super Live IPC Version 1.1 (Peng Antai) worked great for many years of remote viewing on the android phone with my Swann PC DVR-4-Net PCI card.

The phone needed a factory reset and now I can't find Super Live IPC Version 1.1-- and it's the only app that worked for this PC based system? The newer version will not work, I've searched high-and-low to no avail.

Anyone know where I can find this? Or, can anyone suggest an app that will work for remote viewing?

Thanks!!

Hi,

I'm a complete novice at this so please be patient with me if i appear to be talking nonsense.

I've just bought myself a geovision GV-800 card with 16 camera connection.It's all been installed and working fine on the computer with 4 cameras,more to be added later. Now i'm trying to get to grips with the finer details of setting it up,the main one, being able to look at the cameras from another computer where ever i may happen to be,for example in this country or abroad. I've tried looking through the instruction manual and installaton manual but it's really making my head hurt because i basically don't understand what to do to set it up.

PLEASE,can anyone help in the most simple instruction language possible so i can get my head round this. It seems to be a fabulous piece of kit and i look forward to getting to grips with it.

 

Many thanks in advance.

Basically, the computer that runs your cameras has an address on the internet. To connect to it, you must "go to" that address with the remote computer that wants to see the cameras.

It is likely that the remote computer will need a program to see the cameras and that program will probably come from the computer that runs the cameras.

So, get and install the program on the remote computer and see if you can "go to" the computer that runs the cameras.

To learn where "to go" you'll need the computers IP address, get it here:

www.whatismyip.com

When/if that doesn't work, we'll go to the next step. Let us know how you make out.

Like to be able to access dvr through website, has static IP, unlike at home uses dynamic.

Thx

Lenny

"Dynamic DNS (DDNS) allows you to create a hostname that points to your dynamic IP or static IP address or URL. We also provide an update mechanism which makes the hostname work with your dynamic IP address. We continue to offer this service free to the Internet community as we have done so for nearly 10 years."

I've been using this service flawlessly for over 2 years. They're great and they never bother you with sales pitches or anything like that, and it's FREE!

http://www.dyndns.com/services/dns/dyndns/

Hi, I'm rather new at this but I have my CCTV camera system working well and I can connect using my viewing software on the LAN and even wireless that runs through my Qwest GT 701 WG modem. The problem I'm having is port forwarding it so I can view it over the internet anywhere. I set the port forwarding to 80 and did the cmd...ipconfig and entered those into my DVR networking menu.

But I still can't get a remote picture to work.

 

The viewing software is from China I think like D 6 Viewer is the name with no website for support...

 

 

Help please

 

Thank you

 

Help please

I have an Actiontec router (Verizon FIOS) and had the same problem 2 years ago. I had to do an extra tweak to the instructions that rory and Collin wrote that are posted on this site. I saved my instructions in the hope someone else could benefit from them.

Below are my full instructions, I hope they help as I'd like to get the opportunity to return the goodwill/help someone here because so many here have helped me.

================================

Port Forwarding For Remote Viewing with Swann PC DVR-4-Net Card with Port 80 blocked by ISP (Verizon FIOS) Actiontec router

On the router:

1. Use your internet browser and go to http://192.168.1.1

2. Username: Admin Password: password

3. Click Firewall Settings in the on the top bar.

4. Click Port Forwarding from the left column.

5. Click the Red "Add" link.

6. Under "Networked Computer/Device" enter computer name or network IP address

7. Under "Protocol" click the Red "Add" link.

8. Click the red "Add Server Ports" link.

9. In the Drop down menu for Protocol, select TCP

10. Make the follwing changes:

TCP Any -> 13551

TCP Any -> 1259

TCP Any -> 1159

TCP Any -> 80

In the Drop down menu for Protocol, select UDP

Make the follwing changes:

UDP Any -> 80

UDP Any -> 1159

UDP Any -> 1259

UDP Any -> 13551

WAN connection type: All Broadband Devices

11. Click "Ok" Exit out of program saving all changes along the way. On the "Add Port Forwarding Rule" Menu, Click Ok.

12. In the DVR program, go to basic Configuration page (wrench icon) and change HTTP Port to 8080

You're done!

I have my PC weather station feeding into my CATV for the house. I bought one of the $9.00 ATI PCI cards with a TV out from Ebay.

 

The picture is no where near as clear as the composite out from a DVR, but it does work. If you just want to see if someone is around the cameras it should work for you.

 

As was said, the TV out doesn't turn on unless the cable is connected at boot. You will need to turn on dual display for the PC, and open up the window you want to view then drag it over to your second display. Works pretty cool.

 

It is cheap and easy, you just need an extra PCI slot. I had to set the display to 600 x 800 for the TV out to work right. It also lets you use the main display while the TV display is unchanged.

Sounds like that would work dave, thanks! And it'd be a whole lot cheaper than a converter or a new/fancy video card.

I'm pretty sure I have an open PCI slot, I'll take a look later.

capz/soundy, what do you think?

I just have one question, dave: wouldn't having 2 video cards cause a conflict in the OS? (assuming that an ATI PCI is in fact a video card)

It would help if you had a link to the specific cables you're talking about, but at a guess, I'd say the cable is intended for component-video output - separate red, green and blue signals - and won't work unless your TV also accepts component input.

 

What DVR card are you using? Doesn't it have an RCA composite-video output?

I'm familiar with the separate red, green and blue signals, that's what I saw. I had a duh-moment there, sorry. I know about those as I just hooked up my Blu_ray player in the same manner. I get it now, sometimes I just need someone smarter than me to remind me of the obvious. None of my loser friends are "into" dvr's / security cams /computers so I never get a chance to talk these things out in real life, thanks again Soundy.

My DVR card is the Swann DVR-4-Net. It doesn't have an RCA out.

There are two "bays" on my TV that have the separate red, green and blue signals inputs but both are being used. The "bay" I need to use has either standard RCA (yellow) or S-Video.

Now that I'm thinking more about it, I don't think it will work with a DVI (with vga adapter) to single rca for video. You may need a converter as you're going from digital to analog? That's probably why you won't be able to find a DVI to composite RCA cable.

 

Unless you have RGB inputs on your tv, you'll need a converter. For audio you'll need a separate cable from your headphone jack to an audio in on the tv.

 

Before we really confuse each other into oblivion, let's start over. List the outputs on the vid card and your tv inputs.

Computer out: DVI-i ...... .......... ....(it also has a VGA but that's the one that the system monitor is hooked up to)

TV in: RCA (yellow) OR S-Video

No need for the audio because my system doesn't have sound.

capz, I'm thinking that for the price of one of those converters, wouldn't you be better off just buying a new/appropriate video card? Make sense? (Neither of which I want to do.)

Is S-Video digital? Maybe that's the only option?

Thanks again guys for the education, it's starting to sink in.

As I check out the links for cables/adapters, it seems that DVI to RCA is much more popular than DVI to S-Video for some reason.

Maybe because all the info I see says that the length of an S-Video cable should be limited to 6 feet.

I need this hookup to travel at least 20 feet.

The end quality doesn't need to be perfect as I'm familiar with the camera views and would notice a change in the vista as motion occurs in the frame. But, it can't be totally degraded either, that would be worthless.

Here' what I'm thinking -- I get an adpater that goes from DVI-i to 3 RCA's and then make a cable for just the video terminal and route that the 20 feet through the floor to the TV.

What do you guys think?

PS -- all of the DVI to RCA cables/adapters come with 3 RCA in/outs, why is that when a video card (as far as I know) only carries video? What are the other 2 RCA's for?

Thanks again capz and Soundy, you guys and this site are great!

Thanks capz and Soundy for your responses -- they're a big help with the explanations and links, great stuff.

I should also mention that my video card (nvidia geforce3 ti 200) has a dvi output. capz, I didn't see my desired combination on the svideo dot com page.

I could do at least one TV quickly if I could go (from computer) DVI output to s-video or RCA inputs (to TV) with just the right cable.

Is that even possible? Any ideas?

PS - obviously, I have no idea what a DVI output is... or much else for that matter, heh!

Thanks guys!

I plugged an s-video cable into my laptop tonight to watch some .avi files on my TV. I pulled up my camera program and I was watching my cams on my TV.

And it dawned on me -- is there an easy way to "pipe" my PC based security cameras into one, or all, of my TV's?

A guy told me a while back about some device that makes security system cameras available on a random channel on all TV's in your house, but I've never seen anything like it and I think it was for an analog system anyway.

There's no s-video out on the computer that is dedicated to running my cams, so that option is out.

Anyone know a cheap/easy/better way?

TIA

I've been using the remote viewing program (client side) that comes in the Swann PCDVR-4-NET software but it's problematic.

I thought I read here that one of the users/admin's had written a "light-weight" client/remote viewer?

Is that still available or can anyone suggest a good, light-weight generic program to use?

TIA

I finally gained remote access, better late than never -- I'm posting this in the hope that someone else can benefit from my headaches:

I followed Collin R's instructions as posted in this thread but added the UDP protocol for the same forwarded ports and changed the port in the DVR program to 8080 (which we tried before unsuccessfully). I don't know why, but it works and that's all that matters.

Thanks again for all of your help.

Here's my summary, I'll try to tweak it the coming days to be more exact as I'm sure many more will users come to this site with this same problem as Verizon FIOS continues to grow and becomes available in more areas:

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Port Forwarding For Remote Viewing with Swann PC DVR-4-Net Card with Port 80 blocked by ISP (Verizon FIOS)

On the router:

1. Use your internet browser and go to http://192.168.1.1

2. Username: Admin Password: password

3. Click Firewall Settings in the on the top bar.

4. Click Port Forwarding from the left column.

5. Click the Red "Add" link.

6. Under "Networked Computer/Device" enter computer name or network IP address

7. Under "Protocol" click the Red "Add" link.

8. Click the red "Add Server Ports" link.

9. In the Drop down menu for Protocol, select TCP

10. Make the follwing changes:

TCP Any -> 13551

TCP Any -> 1259

TCP Any -> 1159

TCP Any -> 80

In the Drop down menu for Protocol, select UDP

Make the follwing changes:

UDP Any -> 80

UDP Any -> 1159

UDP Any -> 1259

UDP Any -> 13551

WAN connection type: All Broadband Devices

11. Click "Ok" Exit out of program saving all changes along the way. On the "Add Port Forwarding Rule" Menu, Click Ok.

12. In the DVR program, go to basic Configuration page (wrench icon) and change HTTP Port to 8080

You're done!

Still no luck.

 

 

 

You router has about the worst reputation I have seen.

 

I have seen threads on portfowarddotcom, broadbandreportsdotcom and several gaming/filesharing forums.

 

Many many never get port forwarding working properly.

 

 

You make be stuck swapping the router or putting the DVR in the DMZ.

Yeah, it's getting kind of ridiculous. I'm just about ready to throw in the towel.

It sucks because my hopes and intentions and the money I spent trying to set this up are all going to go by the wayside.

Technology sucks, LOL.

I'll try push both Swann and Verizon to take another crack at it and then, I'll be hung out to dry.

Is there a way to "broadcast" these cameras to a website and then just browse to that site for remote viewing?

Anyway, thanks Collin for your help, I really appreciate your time and effort. I'll still come around and if I do find a fix, I'll be sure to post it here.

Hopefully, I can repay the favor somehow.

-- Also, on the "Port Forwarding Rule" page in the router setup is an entry setting that says: "HT*edit*TP - Web Server TCP Any -> 80" but I don't remember setting that. There is a button to delete it, should I?

 

Thanks bro.

 

 

Has that been there the whole time?

 

Are there any other entries?

Sorry to say, I just don't know. Probably not. Between the Verizon tech and the Swann tech some "unknowns" were attempted.

Should I delete it?

There are no other entries that I haven't mentioned.

Thanks!

EDIT: I deleted the "HT*edit*TP - Web Server TCP Any -> 80" function.

Try and see if you can get in now?

I think you DON'T need to add the [:81] to the end of the IP address anymore?

Make sense?

Uncheck this, this will cause other issues later on. The ISP will not hold that address for you unless you are paying for a static address.

Done, don't have a static address.

You might make one rule for Any>"Same as incoming port">192.168.1.6

Not following you here, sorry. If I change it from "Same as incoming port" to "Specify" -- there appears a text field capable of inputing 5 digits. I'm not sure what to do here?

Make sure on the router's "General" page the security is set to "Typical Security"

Done.

-- Also, on the "Port Forwarding Rule" page in the router setup is an entry setting that says: "HT*edit*TP - Web Server TCP Any -> 80" but I don't remember setting that. There is a button to delete it, should I?

Thanks bro.

Also:

 

In the router change the "source port" to "any" and leave the destinations as they are...

Even for the port 81 to 80? (80's blocked on the router) I did it, tell me if I should undo for 80.

Do you have Norton, McAgfee, Sonos or other antivirus but more specifically firewall?

Nope, none of 'em.

I never told you to reboot the router...

Will do. It'll be done within 5 minutes of this posting.

Try again to get in if you want.

Also:

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Here's the rundown of the Port Forwarding changes I made to the router:

-- "Specify Public IP Address" box is checked and I entered the IP of the router into the text feild

-- "Networked Computer / Device:" chose the dropdown menu for "Specific address" and I entered the IP of the DVR computer

-- "Rule name" display is as follows:

Protocol Server Ports

TCP Any -> 80

TCP Any -> 1159

TCP Any -> 1259

TCP Any -> 13551

-- "WAN Connection Type": drop down box is set to - "All Broadband Devices"

(other choices are "WAN PPPOE," "WAN PPPOE2," "Broadband Connection Ethernet," and "Broadband Connection Cable")

-- "Forward to Port:" drop down box is set to - "Same as incoming port"

(other choice is "Specify")

-- "When should this rule occur ?" is set to "Always"

--------------------

Thanks again.

Thanks bro!

I'm gonna try it now.

BB to report.

Okay guys, sorry for the delay but I'm back and yes Collin, we are making progress. Thanks for hanging in there with me.

I had to wait all day to talk to Swann Tech support (Australia time zone) and they supplied me with the port numbers that need to be forwarded.

As a matter of fact, here's the email they sent me:

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Hi there,

Please follow these steps.

1. Find out your computer’s IP on the network, this will be a number DIFFERENT from your internet IP. It will most likely start with (192.168.1.6). This is the IP address that you will forward the ports to.

2. Log into your router, and find the port forwarding options. If you go to edit**portforward**edit you can find the exact model of your router and select any program and follow their examples for setting up port forwarding.

3. Ports 80, 1159, 1259, 13551 all need to be forwarded to the IP address of the computer as in step 1

4. Once that is completed email me again with the internet IP (you can find at **editwhatismyipedit** and I can test the connection. Also be advised the software must be turned ON and running to test.

--------------------------------

I gave it a shot but I did not do it right because the router software told me I can't forward multiple ports to the same destination.

I'm getting mixed up between coming and going but I think we're very close.

Collin, I think if you gave me a little push using the instructions you posted above and me clearing my head out over dinner right now, I think I can do it.

Continued many thanks!!

*EDIT: (Wed night around 10pm) Just for your edification; the 192.168.1.100(1) that showed up twice and disappeared was my one of my addressable set-top boxes for the FIOS TV. They go on the 'net once or twice a day thru the router to update their parameters. This from the Verizon tech I spoke to today.

**2nd EDIT (Thurs morning around 10-10:30) I've been thinking (that's usually how I get in trouble)...

1) forward port 81 (source) on the router to port 80 (destination) on the DVR computer.

(note: I would still have to use the " :81 " after the IP to browse in

2) forward port 1159 (source) on the router to port 1159 (destination) on the DVR computer

3) forward port 1259 (source) on the router to port 1259 (destination) on the DVR computer

5) forward port 13551 (source) on the router to port 13551 (destination) on the DVR computer

I shouldn't have to make any exceptions on the routers OR the DVR computer's firewall settings because 1159, 1259 and 13551 are ports that are usually open anyway??? ...or no?

make sense???

hope you guys come back soon

try to log onto it from inside the network,,, ht tp://192.168.1.6:80

might as well try ht tp://192.168.1.6:81

ht tp://192.168.1.6:80 -- yes

ht tp://192.168.1.6:81 -- no

Whatcha think?

looks like 192.168.1.6 is the address that needs to have the ports foward to it.

Yep, that's the one. Changes were made pursuant to Collin's instructions but still no-go.

Ya think my ISP is blocking inbound traffic from ALL ports? Is that possible?

go to the dvr computer, press start, run, then type cmd and hit enter, then type ipconfig and post the result.

 

Great idea!

Here it is guys:

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Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]

© Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\CCTV>ipconfig

Windows IP Configuration

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.6

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1

C:\Documents and Settings\CCTV>

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Thanks guys for hanging in there and bearing with me. I really appreciate this.

That "new" machine is back!

The router does indeed have a wireless connector that is used by my laptop -- the security is "enabled."

It is again showing an IP address as 192.168.1.100

I realize that I may not have mentioned that the DVR is a PC based card/program on a stand-alone computer. Could that still be the .100 I'm seeing? Should I make your Port Forwarding changes to this machine?

Also, do I need to make changes in the routers firewall settings under the Access Control tab for the DVR machine?

Or should I check the "Exclude" box in the "Protocol, "Source Port" and "Destination Port" to allow for that?

Checking remotely: when I browse to the IP address shown in your avatar (not the 192.168.1.1) it gives me the same sign-in screen as if I was using 192.168.1.1 ??

So, I still can't check the remote connectivity from home.

Sorry to be such a pain and thanks more.

UPDATE -- Port 80 was NOT a valid exception in the Firewall. I just corrected that. That may have been my problem. Will let you know once I get someone outside my house to check it.

Thanks!

2nd EDIT - UPDATE

aaaaand...that "new" machine is gone again.

- Still a no-go from remote location.

- Ping test from the router prgram to the DVR computer FAILS but browser on the same machine connects to LVS Homepage and other sites..

Uh-oh!

I now have a new machine on my network. It's called "new host" with an address of: 192.168.1.100

The connection type is "coax" unlike the rest of my computers which are "ethernet."

Should I be worried about this?

What is it?

I also removed the Port Forwarding changes I made with the Verizon tech -- I hope that was okay.

Let me know about this "new" machine and I'll give you a full report once I know it is something thayt needs to be resolved right away.

Thanks.

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EDIT - UPDATE

The "new" machine has since disappeared. What was that?

Also, do I need to make changes in the routers firewall settings under the Access Control tab for the DVR machine?

Or should I check the "Exclude" box in the "Protocol, "Source Port" and "Destination Port" to allow for that?

Sorry and continued thanks.