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Thomas, very true, many IT savvy folks have switched to Mozilla. Rory, does GE have a good SDK? I'm using Axis 241Q's and the SDK is pretty decent, and it gives you the option of Java, ActiveX or Javascript Updated Image. I'm actually looking to replace our Axis servers with a mini IP-enabled DVR for on-site redundancy of recording, in case a wireless link goes down for an hour for example. Have you seen any of these "mini-dvr" devices? I saw FFV.com has something close, but they aren't IP and they only have Sony protocols.

I figure I'm developing it for our use. Since I have to go to the trouble, perhaps others will be saved from the experience. As far as cross-browser capabilities, there would be no trouble tickets if it's developed correctly... thanks for the well wishes, perhaps it will be a flop and no one will use it, either way it'll be there. Rory, yes it is true that bad architecture creates much more of a slow down on web apps than html, but since I can't see the code on their windows app, I can only criticize what I can see. You really should start your app in .Net since you are having difficulties in distributing your COM object. (understandably). In .Net, as I'm sure you know, the code is compiled and you can run it on any .Net server without any network admins shaking their finger at you. And yes .Net is MUCH easer. =)

I am developing a product. I'm developing software. There is no financial gain in it for me. If you use it fine, if you don't, fine. Coding to standards is not overrated. It is the only way the web can be standardized. The reason that some things work in some browsers, and not in others is because of standards. The reason for slow web apps is because they don't validate. Validating code means it is error/problem free, thus freeing up the browser from having to translate it based upon a guess at what the developer was going after. Aside from that, in the past 10 years, you are right IE usage stats are totally higher than all the other browsers combined. At the same time, you still have to reach as much of an audience as possible, and believe me, large corporations are the last to update their old browsers. (especially if they have an older IT staff). So guess what now you have an app that is completely useless to 10-15% of browsers. BTW- The reason everything works in IE is because it is not up to standards like opera and mozilla, thus it is very forgiving with code. Hell, you don't even have to close html tags in most cases.

It will be GPL. No licensing, no fees, completely redistributable. IPSecurityPro. Chill. I'm not talking down to you. Just trying to explain, (As you asked me to) why I said what I did. With how easy it is to make web apps cross-browser (if you code to standards), they are simply showing their reluctance to learn standards by only supporting IE5.5+. My "skewed" opinion is based upon trial of their software, and every other application in this arena. If there were something that was a COMPLETE solution, then we would have just bought it and all the licenses we need. Unfortunately this is not the case. It is now our goal to make a modular application that everyone can slightly modify for their own usage. This will not be "perfect", I never said it would be. The great thing about the open source community, is that anyone can take a free application, and tailor it to their needs.

I'm in the service business, not the software business. So, I don't need to get paid from the software end. You'll be able to use Java or ActiveX, not much difference in the code.

We get 10-15 miles depending on terrain with our 2.4GHz equipment. We are testing 5.8GHz equipment now, will report back our results.

Sigh. I've already demo'd D3Data's product. I even met their people at the ASIS show in Dallas a few months ago, nice people. The web application is very poorly written. I had not seen their new application, but having visited and viewed the code, I see not much has changed. Sure it's prettier, but its code is still deprecated. You see, I haven't been in security my whole life, I spent 10 years in web development, and am still active. I assume you work for or are affiliated with D3Data, and that's fine. Something you should pass on to the "Engineers" is that web apps should be cross-browser compatible. D3Data's web app works only with IE5.5+, it doesn't validate (not even close), it's coded in HTML 4.01 instead of XHTML, it uses inline javascript, etc. Who's not well informed? D3Data's system was the 2nd system my company demo'd, before eventually choosing an alternate vendor. Our current vendor isn't all roses either, but their functionality and programming is better. Although D3Data's product range support is better, and the web interface is spiffier. We're currently writing our own software, (it's about 70% done), developed completely in XHTML, XML, and .Net that is much more on an enterprise level. All open source. The NVR market is on the brink of getting huge, an open source NVR is just what the market needs, don't you think? =)

D3Data's software is horribly bloated and poorly coded. It is web-based, which is a nice change... but other than that... blah

You could try IVC, we have been using them for the past 8 months with good results. Best bet for your money. http://www.ivcco.com/

Yeah, there are a few doing it here too, they have DVR's in the base of their units that standard fixed cameras record onto. Couple of times their equipment was unplugged, and then all their camera's and DVR were stolen. How ironic. Ours Pelco cameras, video sever, and wireless equipment run on Solar so they can't unplug ours, but at the same time, it prohibits the use of any DVR's, IR equipment, etc. But we are looking into the FLIR thermal cameras that only take 1.5Watts. The wireless equipment we are using is actually quite cheap. Something like $3,000 for our broadcast tower equipment, and $450 for each unit. We could get slightly less packet loss using equipment that is 3 times more expensive, but it isn't really cost effective for the mild performance boost. We went to the ASIS show in Dallas,Tx, and found no one else was really doing what we were doing, so that was cool, and we also got to meet a lot of our suppliers.

Im not in the CCTV industry? That's news to me.... I do not use IP cameras, I use standard CCTV cameras that hook into video servers. DVR's are hardware limited, compared to NVR's. It's true DVR's typically have more features and better interfaces, but NVR's are infinately expandable, as they are software based and are MUCH cheaper than DVR's. You can have 64 feeds fed through a relay server and recorded on a $4,000.00 NAS, for much cheaper than any DVR. DVR's are simply not cost effective with the NVR's on the market, and how cheap storage is when you build your own NAS. Our systems are portable, IE- Construction sites, police stakeouts, mobile homeland security. Generally no power is available where our units are placed.... DVR's are simply not ideal for mobile applications. Our NVR allows all video, no matter what city, state, etc. to come back to our central server farm. Our wireless links are completely secure and we can get a 15 mile radius without any problems. Wireless is only a last resort, if you don't understand how it works. We have no reliability problems, don't know exactly where you are headed there.

Compressed or UnCompressed, it's your choice. Video servers will allow you to broadcast back to any recording device that accepts a network connection. (and it will allow you to control image quality and fps). We use this, coupled with NVR's to create a fully modular system. DVR's are useless to us since we add new cameras every week, and they are hardware limited.

My company does this. We use Axis 241Q video servers with Spectra III se cameras. All are addressable through the Axis. No problem.

Axis's 2400+ is nice. You could probably find one on Ebay for that much. Now is the time to look since they are moving to the 241Q's, but they are way out of your range.

Anyone know of any GOOD quality PTZ cameras that run on 12V DC? We are using Pelco Spectra's and they are sucking 25w+ @ 24V AC. I found one at www.ptz-camera.com and it's $799, but it can't be any good at that price. Please HELP =)