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  3. Posted

    1. Putting in 2 16 Channel Hunt DVR's in a door man building for the security. Will be taking 2 camera loop out put from each dvr, running them in to a quad, for the secritary to look at since she only needs for cameras.

     

    2. Take loop outs to a web server so you can remotely view video, since 95% of the dvr's stream video badly. Did I mention Speco?

     

    3. Use loop outs to quads>Channel modulator, so the customer can watch 4 cameras per channel insted of maybe 16 tiny weny images on the same screen.

     

    The sky is the limit

  4. Posted

    Installed one a couple a weeks ago and is really regretting it. Its a good DVR if you do not need remote viewing, but the built in web server is such a pice of junk. Worst I've ever seen. Doesn't even work correctly if you are on the same LAN.

  5. Posted

    Telpix has a new interesting DVR.

     

    4 or 8 channel, support for Dynamic IP, Mpeg-4, bulit-in CD-RW, 1 channel audio, stand alone, looks good heavy etc, motion, alarm in/out, scheduling, vga and bnc out, runs on 110 volt no power supply.

     

    Picked one up last week has yet to try it.

     

    $695 4 channel

    $895 8 channel

     

    telpix.com.

     

    They don't have it listed on their site yet though.

  6. Posted

    no-ip.com emails you the new ip address. I have been using www.dyndns.org and a compatible router, with a built in DDNS client. (Dlink DI-604) When the IP changes, the router will know it and relay the new IP info to their server. Then the Server will remap the new IP to the domain name you have for that particular account for example, joeclient.dyndns.org.

     

    Alot of Dynamic DNS info is avalible on their site. Check it out.

  7. Posted

    Fred, what is the best CRT monitor that you would recommend? Is it the refresh rate of the monitor that is key?

     

    Viewsonic, Sony, Dell, KDS... Honestly it doesn't really matter that much. They are all pretty much the same. The difference between a crt and an LCD is huge. For the Donut shops we usally put in a 13" TV w/ a built in VCR, since the customer's usally don't want to pay more then $2000, and they come out looking pretty good. A CRT computer monitor looks alot better then a TV, so... We had customer a little while ago who just had to have a LCD monitor, even after we told him about the crappy quality. He ended up taking the LCD home for his computer and replacing it with a 13" TV. Very happy now.

     

    You don't have to spent a fortune on the monitor. Just don't put in LCD's.

  9. Posted

    1. You wont get real time live viewing with most "PC based DVR's" unless you spend the top dollars.

    2. Most LCD monitors displays live video very bad because the slow refrech rate and for crappy design in general. What kind of monitor does he have?

     

    We don't put in the PC ones exept the VPON ones for daycares, when they eant remote viewing for the parents.

  11. Posted

    I think what I will do is always set up the cheap systems with a router. In that way the IP should not change unless you unplug the modem. Then just configure the router to notify www.dyndns.org if it changes. I have an account with them which i think was $13 for a lifetime. Pretty cheap.

    Incase the IP changes I can just go in to dyndns and get the new ip address and give it to the customer. I don't have a zillion systems with a dynamic address out there so, if I get a call every 3-4 months it's not a big deal. I usally check my systems online on a regular basis anyway so...

    The higher end accounts like the pre schools we setup with static IP's anyway.

     

    Don'r want to make it to complicated so...

  14. Posted

    Just trying to provide a work-around here for cheap customers.

     

    Usually the only people accessing the DVR are cusomers who don't mind switching IP addresss using speedstream. Haven't had that problem with 2Wire.

     

    I've done it and it works. I explain to them that if they never want to worry about changing the access IP then they need a static IP address. My experiance is that SBC charges about $70.00 per month for static. If the cost is only $15.00 month then tell the client to get it! At that price we're wasting time here.

     

    At this point I have no more input on this thread.

     

    Sorry Chris,

    Really appriciate your help and input. Guess I was just hoping for the "ultimate dynamic dsl" solution.

     

    The thing is that most of these customers don't have a computer at the location, so they can't go online to figure out their new ip if it changes. I can get their new ip from a dynamic dns server, and since we always put in a router it shoulden't really change unless they unplug it. Woulden't that be kind of the same thing? Just trying to see what the difference would be.

     

    Thanks,

    Fredrik

  15. Posted

    FredB & Rory:

     

    Fredb: Using speedstream, if you disconnect the modem & router it will reset the IP lease and probably change the public IP address. Have not tested speedstream with unplud and multiple reboots. If client has to do this often, have them switch to home networking with built-in router allowing web servers, costs about $30.00 more per month.

     

    Using 2wire (Home networking, which allows web servers) the public IP address stays the same, tested and works.

     

    Rory, you would be right under conditions that you have stated. However, there are server broadband networks here that allow DSL/Cable access to have their own servers. These providers know that a dedecated IP address is require and let subscribers maintain them if they know how to do it. That does not mean that they advertise it or have any documentation on it.

     

    It does mean that they do allow it. That's all I can say. It's diffenet with every ISP.

     

    I kind of thought that the point was that even if the customer dissconnects the router/modem and reconnects them, he should be able to view his cameras through the dvr viewer without changing the software ip settings. I though that the isp would update the redirect to the dvr/ip. You can get a static dsl subscription for $15 more, and that is what i am trying to avoid for the chepo customers.

    Is that not the case or...

  16. Posted

    Yeah, but that Public IP address still changes unless you obtain a Static IP from the ISP... or am I missing something in this thread ..?

     

    I can access my non static IP on my computer, from anywhere, until the ISP changes it, which happens every so often.

     

    Except that SBC (US) and several others will allow a public IP address setting in their modems. I'm not sure if they dedicate the addresses when users have this setting an then map them via DNS to the assigned address or what.

     

    All I know is that I have set up a dozen or so DVR's and several web servers on the SBC network and the IP address have not changed once the setting was done at the modem. This has been done with 2wire & speedstream modems with no public address changes in over 1 year.

     

    Not all ISP are like this, but SBC is one of them and I have proof that it works.

     

    They still work even if you dissconnect the router and modem and them plug them in again? Still looking for the manegment tools for the speed streeam 5100

  17. Posted

    Still don't understand what a public ip is, and how it works, and how it would link up to your dynamic ip at the location? Will the router notify the isp of the new address and link it up to the public ip address. Would you have to type in a specific port number in the dvr also? Why would the isp give you a public ip address? What prevents you not to connect to another zillion other places if the ip address is "public"?

     

    Really trying to understand the concept. Would be great to get that to work!!

     

    Thanks,

    Fredrik

     

    A public address is maintained by SBC for users of game, ICO and other software that require a static address. Which means they allow a user to specify this address for their applications. We benefit by having a pubic (ACCESSABLE FROM THE INTERNET VIA THEIR DNS SERVERS) to point to our DVR's.

     

    Here's how it works. Yes, SBC allows public IP addresses. Although, they never publish the fact. The IP address of your specific modem is in the managment software for the modem. It only changes when and if the modem is re-booted. Otherwise, it renews (on the same address), if you've got a stable connection, there is no need to re-boot.

     

    2wire (SBC home networking) has a built-in router that allows port forwarding from a stable public IP address.

     

    I think you are reading too much into your understanding of dynamic IP addresses. Each connection to SBC has an IP address. They will and do allow these addresses to remain under certain conditions.

     

    Please find the managment software to determine your modem connection IP address and other components.

     

    Once you've done that. I need to know what DVR your are using and basic cofig parameters for your router and it will work.

     

    Thanks,

     

    Managment software? Would that be something that was on the installation cd when you det the modem, or is that something ou can access through a web browser. Using speed stream 5100 with a di-604 router. I know how to set up the portforwarding in the router.

     

    Thanks,

    Fredrik

  19. Posted

    Still don't understand what a public ip is, and how it works, and how it would link up to your dynamic ip at the location? Will the router notify the isp of the new address and link it up to the public ip address. Would you have to type in a specific port number in the dvr also? Why would the isp give you a public ip address? What prevents you not to connect to another zillion other places if the ip address is "public"?

     

    Really trying to understand the concept. Would be great to get that to work!!

     

    Thanks,

    Fredrik

  20. Posted

    HI:

     

    If he is using SBC with the 2wire setup, it doesn't matter. If he's using speedstream it needs a router.

     

    Even the cheapest DVR's will work, Samsung, Speco, etc...

     

    Put in a static local address, map from public address via port.

     

    Been there, done many times.

     

    How do you get in to the modem? through the browser typing in the modem IP or...

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    Hi FredB:

     

    SBC will work, I have done it several time. Need to some specifics so I can help you.

     

    What SBC modem is it? (speedstream, 2Wire, etc...)

     

    Is there a router, if so what is it?

     

    Let me know, you are almost there.

     

    speed stream with a dlink di-604 router

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    FredB:

     

    No, I mean IP address accessable from the Internet to your PC.

     

    Who is your broadband provider?

     

    What is the name of your broadband modem?

     

    It all depends what your provider will let you do, but in the US, SBC, Comcast and many others allow it.

     

    I have sbc yahoo at home, but i a not really talking about myself, but about my customers in general. I am trying to find out a way to set up the dvr's with remote viewing, but with dynamic IP's. As Rory said, I know really well how the whole dynamic IP thing works, with no-ip.com or dyndns.org etc.

     

    The problem is with alot of these cheaper dvr's is that they don't have a built in webserver, but a remote viewer you have to load on the viewing computer. I am looking for a simple solution for all the donut shops who want to see the store remotely, without spending the extra dough on a static ip.

     

    I quess one way to do it would be to have the router notify the dns every time the ip changes and the dns would send an email to the customer with the new ip. Then he would manually have to type in the new ip in the viewer. Talking about clumsy way. Not looking forward to the phone calls. I don't really want to deal with different ip providers polices. I am going to call dsl extreme and ask them. No point in guessing.

     

    Keep the ideas coming

  23. Posted

    Most broadband providers will allow a public IP address setting in the modem. The router can forward an IP request from the public address to a specific port and local (LAN) static IP address.

     

    This allows you to put a static local IP address into the DVR (using a specified port other than port 80 - web browser default) and the router will forward from the public address even through a browser interface.

     

    Find the software that manages the broadband modem and change the setting to allow a public IP address. Then configure the router software to forward the request to something like 192.168.1.10:700 on the local network. Also, make sure that you find a setting in the router software to allow WAN access to the specific DVR address and port.

     

    Be careful about giving all IP addresses full WAN access. Only give the public IP address & port pointing to the DVR WAN access.

     

    Remove any firewall logins and let the DVR user management handle security. This will work will work with most DVR manufacturers.

     

    Worst case is that you use a dynamic DNS host to map to the DVR.

     

    Hope this gives you some ideas.

     

    How do you get in to the modem software to change the public IP? I don't really get how it would work. Will you pick one of the providers public ip addresses to put in the modem? Was surfing around for a while on the net but could not find any info abut it. Please explain more. Sounds really great soo...

  24. Posted

    My question is how can you use a dvr that doesn't have a built in webserver, since the remote software that comes with the dvr doesn't accept anything other then a IP address. If you use no-ip, you would just type in for example joeblow.no-ip.com and you would be re directed to the dvr ip address, which is fine if the dvr has a webserver. But if it doesn't? You can't exactly type in joeblow.no-ip.com in the dvr software. It won't work as far as I know. Does anyone have a workaround???

  25. Posted

    I think the dvr has to have a built in web server for it to work with a dynamic ip. Like the VPON, everfocus and speco dvr's. In that way you can use a service like www.no-ip.com to handle the dynamic dns part. Just use a compatible router to notify the dns everytime the ip changes.

     

    I am also trying to figure out a way to do it with dvr's that don't have a built in web server. Does anyone know?

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