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  2. Posted

    the swann version is back on the costco website. get them while they are still around.

     

    Link? I am not seeing anything but the Swann cameras, or the D1 packages. The NVR package doesn't show with a search.

     

    I am trying to figure out what makes an AvertX worth an extra $1000... it does have alarm inputs and PTZ control... very nice but not THAT nice.

     

    Their not selling the NVR kit at this time. Just the Two Camera Pack; is back.

  3. Posted

    I updated the first post with pros and cons...and a link to the cameras and systems.

     

    Thanks! Very helpful.

     

    Is anyone else concerned that someone could make off with the whole NVR unit and you'd be SOL?

     

    I'm curious, can you hook up two NVRs to single cameras? So that the motion alarm is captured by both of them?

     

    Right now we can do that by having the camera upload to a 2nd NAS device via FTP.

     

    I think the last page or the one before this was answered when I mentioned "Mirror Recording"

     

    Basically, You have an Additional Hard Drive, ( External ) and you hook it up to the nvr. Everything is recorded to Both Hard Drives so you

    have a back up. Or incase one is stolen. The backup could be in just the next room, Hidden or something. Just an idea.

    Once a thief see's the wire going into the wall, he's not going to tear the entire wall down tracing that wire... For all they know it's

    just to a camera.... (Maybe I'm mistaken but that is how I took the "mirror Recording" as.

  4. Posted

    I'm not mad.

     

    It's state law I would have to work for another Licensed Security Company for a minimum of 5 years before

    being allowed to file an application with the state to become a cctv installer or anything like that. So I wouldn't

    be new to the business after 5yrs of experience. Its good, keeps overnight companies from starting up.

     

    Continue, didn't mean to drag it off topic.

  5. Posted

    I notice the lorex comes with an installed 2TB HD, Did the swann?

     

    I also notice in the Night video on the lorex of the light water show, on the left side is a noticable reflection of whats happening on the right side.... Is that caused by the lens?

     

    Looks pretty good though.

     

    Also notice it has a few features, that IIRC weren't an option on the swann or was it the dahua?

     

    •Mirror Hard Drive Recording

    •Mirror recording requires

    •Instant e-mail alerts with snap shot attachments of event and web link

     

    I Don't see alarm inputs though....

  7. Posted

    This brings up another question.

     

    For someone like me wanting to own my own CCTV install bussiness one day,

    is the market going to do what camras did to Photographers?

    I use to have a Photography business, But with Cheaper better cameras flooding the market anyone and everyone is a photographer.

    I stopped shooting weddings last year and it blew my mind when on multiple occasions I knew of people

    doing wedding photography with cell phones, Much less a new person buying one from the store and suddenly their a "professional"

     

    The proccess in TN is 5yrs to start a cctv/alarm business. No less than 5yrs will I be alowed to start my own bussiness.

    Will the cctv market be like the "still camera" market? Will there be a market for someone like me who wants to sell/Install cctv?

     

    I'm interested because I really enjoy cctv and all of its aspects. I'm kind of a techy nerd so its "fun" too...

    I just makes me wonder.... Will I be able to provide my family....

  8. Posted

    It sounds like Costco pulled the swanns and will be releasing the same exact cameras but from lorex....

    So we'll see.

     

    lol at the "BMW" comment. My more reliable bmw I currently drive was bought for $400.00 and now has about 300+ thousand miles.

    My newer one is ok... It's a 99. I regret selling my 06 Audi A6 absolutely every single day...

     

    Anyway, The swanns were just flashed and got 3mp out of them. Hoping the same for lorex.

     

    But who knows by the time I have the money It'll be through three different brand names etc...

     

    ps bmw also stands for "Brakes My Wallet" My Audi was much more reliable. And nicer and cheaper to maintain than any

    of my Past cars. ( Hondas, Acuras, Mitsubishi )

  12. Posted

    AHAH!! I did not have a clue you could plug a non-PoE device in a PoE awitch port. I understand how it works with the extra pairs available in Cat 5, Cat6 available for power. Never thought to think that the "power wires" in a PoE port hit a nothing connection when a non- poe device is plugged in.

    Thanks for that.

     

    And guys......wheres the meat? Lets see some fresh video..................

     

     

    Ill post some out of swanns nvr

     

    http://youtu.be/LQzJG_qFqek

    http://youtu.be/8oudTFOsSYk

     

    I think these are at 15 FPS and on the computer monitor you can make out details of the face. I did go into the camera last night and enable wdr @13

     

    Cameras look pretty good. I'm on shift so I can't use the work computers on Youtube.

    But I could make out the Fire/Rescue on your shirt on my small Droid Cell phone.

     

    I'll check em out on my computer when I get home tomm for better viewing.

     

    Off topic: You guys work 24/48?

    That's what we work.

  13. Posted

    If you want a long run HDMI check this out.

    It's a High Performance HDMI for long runs( 50ft ), Or short.... and it's really thin... I mean like a charger cable for your smart phone thin...

     

    http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10255

     

    They also sell Bulk cat5 which turns out to be 7.9 cents per ft...

    They also sell Bulk cat6 which turns out to be 10 cents per ft....

     

    I have no affiliation, just trying to help other members out with best prices.

  14. Posted

    From my understanding I've really got two options... 1) Get an inexpensive ftp network drive and have the cameras ftp motion detected clips to the drive. Or 2) Use a pretty high end PC (top of the line i5 or maybe even i7) and run Blue Iris (or some other NVR software). I can get a Dahua NVR for about $300 but I can't build a i5/i7 system for that price. What are you guys with this camera (or other multiple 1080p cameras) doing?

     

    You mention buying a Dahua NVR..... Why Not buy the Swann NVR?

     

    Why would that be any different than a Dahua NVR. There may be different options in the two NVRs but I'm not sure about them all.

  17. Posted

    Don't get the impression I'm ragging. I'm learning to understand what a high res camera can and can't do under certain situations. If anything is askew it's my expectations, not what a mega pixel is gonna deliver. While the axis can't read the plate either, it's an improvement overall. I can tell there is numbers on the plate, and the detail at full scale is of better quality. The dahua can't compare, in the shot you posted. The reason plates came into it at all is because of the nature of your post- a suspicious car that's been lurking around the neighborhood. Natually I went right to the plate to see if the camera got the shot. It was actually a good teachable moment with picture because often times pictures are posted and assessed for the overall quality, not the nitty gritty. So for me at least, I learned something.

    Yeah me too. I have no experience so obviously I just didn't know.

  21. Posted

    Here are the 2 quick Videos that cchan has uploaded for us.

    Please right click, save as, (as my server wont allow streaming of these video files)

    http://www.quickbay.biz/cchan/

    Just added 3 more sample/test videos so there are 5 now. In particular, I added some nighttime video clips.

     

    To recap:

    Clips 1 & 2 - recorded late afternoon, with all 4 cameras recording simultaneously.

     

    Clips 3, 4, & 5 - only a single camera was connected during the recording.

    #3 gives you an idea of the scene during the day for comparison to 4 and 5. Camera was just placed outside of my front door for this test, similar view as #1 and 2 but different location.

    #4 is at night - Street is lit by a streetlight to the right off camera, but otherwise no other lighting on the pathway, plant on the right, lawn, and outside of the house on the left, that is from the camera's IR LEDs.

    #5 - I decided to turn the front house lights on/off to see what adding visible light does.

     

    Resolution is certainly lower at night than day... how does this compare with other cameras?

     

    Thanks again to flynreelow for hosting these.

     

    I can't view these. the only option chrome gives me is to save link as not target... And non of them will play.

     

    Chrome sucks? lol

     

    Edit: Tried IE, Didn't work either. Also tried Firefox.

     

    Once I do save target as it needs the internet to find the info to play but still can't play after that....

     

    Real Player, Windows Media Player and quick time wont play it. None recognize the file type....

  24. Posted

    Maybe I'm missing something, but they don't appear to carry the NVR for these?

     

    The NVR package is here:

     

    http://www.costco.com/Swann-8-Channel-HD-NVR-Security-System-with-2TB-Hard-Drive-and-4-1080p-IP-Cameras.product.100027599.html

     

    After looking over the users manual for the NVR I didn't see it talk about adding in cameras outside it's POE ports (over it's WAN port). This is important to me since some of the future cameras will simply be plugged into POE switches on my LAN. I emailed Swann and asked. They responded VERY fast (within an hour!) which I thought was exceptional. But they said any cameras managed by the NVR must be plugged directly into it's POE ports as stated in the users manual. Well, for me this is a deal breaker unless some really good non-Swann NVR solution is available for these (i.e. BlueIris confirmed, etc.). Anyone have any thoughts on what else to do since on paper these cameras look really good?

     

    Woah! You mean if the cameras aren't plugged into their POE Ports, It's Impossible to have the cameras?

     

    This is rediculous. I take it their 8 chan system has 8 POE Ports?

     

    I would rather not have the poe ports and use a powered switch in the attic or basement.....

     

    Q2U: I missed your post with my above reply. Yeah I would assume they didn't understand...

    Like I said I would rather not have the poe ports and use a powered switch...

     

    When you get your system, Please do a FULL review, Lots of pictures and videos. Like above said, For your Cambudds!!!

  25. Posted

    You can disable the built in IR and use an external iluminator to fix your concern.

     

    Sorry but that first snapshot in my humble opinion isn't good.. I can hardly make anything out with any real detail.

    I mean yeah the car color and enough to figure out what model it is...

     

    2nd pic is good, But it's a ptz. We can't compare a PTZ (even analog) to a ip mp that has a wide angle lens with a fov over 70-100ft.

     

    Not trying to step on any toes, Just can't compare ptz's vs fixed wide fov cams. Analog or mp ip.

     

    But, Maybe I missed it but I havn't really seen any 1080P cams with no IR for the same price ($175) with the same Image Quality ( IQ )

     

    Also don't think I'm saying dahua is garbage... Hell I have nothing right now and wish I did.

    Paying off debt before I pick up a new cctv system. Payed off two cards, one left.

    Also payed one car off, And selling my other so that I have no payments aside from the mortgage. Priorities.

     

    Until then I just bother you guys here on the forum. lol

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