reeves1985

December 20, 2014

The drive isn't big as its just testing things at the moment it's a 500gb drive I'm hoping Santa brings me new components to build my own nas hence the reason for the question

I think I may have got it to work now I'm just waiting for the drive to fill to make sure it doesn't change back to uninitialized

I basicly ended up setting up a zfs pool with quotas etc for each cam which seems fine at the min

Before I just had nfs shares setup which I don't think you can use the quotas if it's setup like that

I may be wrong and have missed a few things but like above I'm just trying to test what works before embarking on getting a proper nas build up and running

December 8, 2014

As much as I would love to update the fw these are Chinese cams and don't fancy applying the fix and patch etc

admitadly I haven't done much reading lately to see if the patch has become easier

I have been reading about the nfs shares and it seems that these cans need the quota setting for them to work properly

In nas4free this is via zfs

I'm a bit of a newbie to all this even though I have had the cams a while now so just trying to get my head around all things nas and specifically nas4free etc so any help would be appreciated

December 8, 2014

I'm having some issues getting bad to work correctly

I have 2 of the cameras in title and am using nas4free as the has server

There problems I am having are:

1. The cameras will stop recording when the storage gets full.

I have made sure the overwrite option Is turned on. When the storage gets full the cameras go into an offline state and need reinitialising to get them to work again

also when they get full I cannot view the recordings.

2. The cameras also seem to randomly go to a unitialized state and offline requiring them to be reinitialized which again renders any recording useless.

Does anybody have a good guide to getting these cameras working with nas4free.

The firmware version is 5.1.0 on the cams.

I have been playing with the idea of using a dlink sharecenter nas but I would like if possible to get the current setup working which will give me more budget to upgrade the storage

March 11, 2014

Setup my 2 hik cameras with nas4free and everything was working great

Today I have finally installed a poe injector to 1 camera

Problem is that now one of my nfs shares is nas4free has become offline in the hik cams

I haven't touched the nas4free setup at all and the 2 shares are identical in every way other than the sub directory which the path in each cam directs to

I have

/mnt/storage/nvr/Hik1

/mnt/storage/nvr/Hik2

Both identically setup in nas4free and permissions set to 777

Now the Hik1 works on BOTH cameras but Hik2 won't work on either camera it just shows as offline

It was working and I can view the recordings in the Hik2 directory to corn firm it was working as it should

Can anyone shed any light onto this problem

March 10, 2014

That's good to know they work ok

I ended up using an old laptop an set it up with nas4free and use that as a server for motion recording but I am still undecided what to use for 24/7 viewing/monitoring I may actually get one for that sole purpose

It's either going to be one of these mini nvr or use an android pc but I can't seem to find any reviews on the android pc to see how well they can handle multiple cameras

If i do go down the android route I can use hikvisions ivms android client to view the remote recordings from nas

March 9, 2014

managed to sort out the issue I think

anybody else facing the same issue make sure in your nfs share in nas4free that the Specifies that the file system should be exported read-only is not ticked, which in my case after hours of head scratching I found it was

March 9, 2014

Hi

I wonder if you can help me I've been having trouble with nas4free and the hik camera I can get the cam to see the mount but it completes straight away and still says uninitialized

I saw mentioned in a different thread you had to create another directory under what nas4free was telling you and it worked

Trouble is I'm very new to this and am not sure in doing it right as when I create a directory under it it still doesn't work

In nas4free is currently have my mount setup to

/mnt/storage/nvr (my mount point)

If I pop that into the cam it recognises it but goes straight to complete

If I add a directory to it in the cam without touching nas4free it doesn't see the mount and if I put another directory under it in nas4free I get the same problem as before where it completes straight away and still says unitialised

I hope you can help me as I have been trying to get it working all day and am ripping my hair out

I think I now have a basic knowledge of nas and nas4free so any help would be very much appreciated

March 6, 2014

Edited as a reset sorted problem

not to waste a thread is anybody using a android pc for live view? are they reliable?

considering going this route for live viewing but I want to know if they can handle live viewing of 1080p without a problem

thanks

March 5, 2014

I use Exacq, for a basic 4 camera system it would cost $200. In my eyes it's worth it as I can use such an inexpensive computer to as my NVR.

The cameras vary, all are at a minimum of 8fps, none higher than 15 at this location. All cameras record at max resolution, day to day they usually rotate 4 cameras at a time on a monitor running 1920x1080, but you can display them all at once no problem.

In this thread not long ago I shared a couple of screenshots of different configurations in hardware and cameras. Towards the end of the first page, and on the next page specifically. I normally do not display all cameras as with as many as I have the views are very small. Some sites do not run the client at all, so they sit and basically idle all the time. I have a couple NVRs that are i3 laptops recoding to an external drive though. No issues so far and am well over a year, and they are in a unheated and uncooled area! Surprised even me lol. I did it to test if it was a viable solution, and it sure is. Makes for a nice compact setup, screen and all. $349 laptop connected to a $150 2tb drive. $500. That's hard to beat, and I have screen, keyboard, mouse, everything needed other than a POE switch, Exacq software license, and cameras! I might swap out the normal internal HD for an SSD if I do this in the future, seeing as that would only add $100 or so.

viewtopic.php?f=19&t=39346&hilit=razer_se&start=15

I wouldn't call exacq lightweight at all--at least the client.

i7-3770

15-20% live view of main OR substreams. Tried both windows and linux. I can forgive it if it was the 3MP 30fps main stream, but just the mjpeg 12fps substream? That is terrible.

Hikvision camera support was terrible. ONVIF driver = zero advanced config. Hikvision driver = event errors and it takes 5-10min to successful connect to cameras. That is terrible for the OP.

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Laptops and their compents aren't duty tested for 24/7 running, especially the low end.

Thanks again

I'm not looking for something that is going to be too taxing to setup

I'm still undecided to run an old laptop as a server and use am android box to get live view on tv/monitor

Not sure how good/reliable the android boxes are

As for the live view I'd like to view 2/4 cams live at 15fps at least

March 3, 2014

If the NVR software is working correctly you should have almost no CPU usage. I can connect 14 of them to an i3 and not even use 2%. I have other cams like that running on old dual core Pentiums with no issues at all, it all depends on what software you have.

With the right client you can run on Atom based machines easily, if power was really a huge concern. I'll soon have 11 3mp Hik, one 2mp ACTi, one 1mp ACTi, a 5mp Vivotek, 4 analogs made IP through a Axis encoder, and 12 other analogs all running to an i3 with 2gb of ram. It will run fine with no issues at all, even with the client displaying all at once I'll only use about 30-40% of the CPU. With client closed down it will use 1-3%.

Thanks for your input can I ask which nvr software you are using?

Also when you display the cams what resolution are you using and frame rate

At the moment I am just using the free hikvision nvr pc nvr software supplied

Whilst I am setting up it is running as server and client displaying the 2 3mp cams

March 3, 2014

Thanks will have a tinker

One thing I have noticed from testing is I set my email up to send me a capture of an event/trigger

While the email comes through fine the picture just come as 0bytes and cannot be viewed

Is there a setting for this anywhere on the ivms pc nvr

I have selected the number of captures and the quality on each setting but still doesn't seem to work

March 3, 2014

Thanks I will have a read through

Operating temps shouldn't be a problem as the attic is a concerted bedroom this will be inside essentially

Do the moment as a test on a spare old pc I had lying around I installed the hik ivms4200nvr software and added the two cams set motion record and hard drive up and it's hitting 100% CPU on 15fps

This rig is old and uses a and Athlon 64 x2 3ghz CPU with 65w

The memory is fine like at around 10-15% of 4gb

March 2, 2014

Been searching around the forum and there is a lot of very useful information regarding pc vs dedicated nvr systems and the best ways to display to a monitor etc.

im hoping someone can help me tailor something that would work for me

the background plan:

currently I have 2 3mp hik cams and plan on adding a maximum of 2 more. It is a small setup for my property.

I plan on running the 2/4 cams to a switch (poe) in the attic and running either a dedicated nas drive or pc based nas of some flavour.

for viewing the cams on a separate monitor I plan on using a android device into a monitor (just for basic monitoring and viewing pleasure).

as for the nvr. I have plenty of computer bits lying around which I could knock up into a compact sytem to run as a dedicated nas server for recording

my main objectives are to keep it as power efficient as possible as it will be running 24/7 and also keep setup costs down.

is this the best way to go? or maybe integrated client server setup? (I understand a client/server setup would require a hell of a lot more cpu power)

cost is also a factor and I have thought about a dedicated nvr but I don't like the limitations on the lower budget devices without spending lost of cash.

all opinions help and advice welcome

March 2, 2014

thanks

got my head around it now and so far im very pleased with the cams

that's all the testing done in regards to making sure the cams work properly etc

now its on to the setup part and looking into what sort of nvr solution to use which will be a separate thread

thanks again

damian

March 2, 2014

right I have managed to get the cam to record and the created files now show in the location where I specified in the cam config

the next problem is when I go to the playback tab on the hik cam all I get is no files found

any ideas on this part?

March 1, 2014

Did you try the method mentioned?

I haven't tried it yet but was hoping it would work

March 1, 2014

cheers buddy will give it a shot in the morning hopefully that's all that is needed

as it was only a quick plug in and test camera job to make sure the cameras worked I thought it was me not doing something correctly and was driving me nuts

March 1, 2014

just received a couple of these hikvision ds-2cd2032-i to have a play with after the mainly positive reviews I have seen.

they are the Chinese firmware version. I seem to be having an issue with recording and not sure if it is just me missing something

in local configuration I select where I want the recorded files and downloaded files to go

pop back into live view and hit record. it says it is recording but it doesn't actually seem to record anything

there is nothing in the location set and also the playback search cant find any files

is there a specific way in which you have to set this up

also I have noticed if I attatch a usb stick I get an error "failed to create file"

any help greatly received

February 17, 2014

Ooops, allow me to update on this. I got a firmware update for my unit, and now it works fine and detectes all my Hikvision and Dahua cameras. I still have not been able to test recording on the unit. Here are some thoughts so far:

- I still do have 2 ONVIF cameras that are not detected. I don't care about them.

- The menus suck. I am used to Hikvision and Dahua interfaces/menus; the ones I have on this unit are a lot worse.

- I still have not been able to do any recording. The USB pendrive is there, but I just have not figured out on this interface how to record.

- The streams on the cameras have to be the same, or they won't work. That is, you have 4 cameras? They better be able to work all of them at the same resolution (1920x1080, 1080x720) or it won't work. You can not have 2 cameras at 1920x1080 and 2 cameras at 1080x720.

- I still did not try any remote access... but it is supposed to be there.

Thanks for the update as I haven't yet pulled the trigger and am debating if I should just use it as a excuse to build another pc dedicated to ip cameras

Food for thought though as this would have to pass the mrs test first as it would be substantially bigger than a dedicated nvr

Which would be in the bedroom as I like to keep a monitor on 24/7 for viewing pleasure! (My area seems to be nocturnal)

February 10, 2014

If i do get one I will definitely post the results

I'm debating whether to take a gamble and see what happens or just pay out the extra for a hikvision nvr

I was assured it will work with hikvision but not the motion detection which is irrelevant to my needs

February 10, 2014

I'll save you all the headaches and searching and research. If your buying a hikvision IP camera, buy a hikvision NVR.

Thanks for the reply

Is there any particular reason for that other than the motion detection compatibility?

February 9, 2014

Link of one here:

m.aliexpress.com/item/1393000601.html

I will be wanting to use with hikvision cameras

February 8, 2014

Apologies this is posted in two separate catagories as I wasn't sure which one was best

I'm in the process of upgrading an analogue system on my home which currently runs 4 700tvl unbranded chinese cameras

They've been running approx 2 years and I've been happy with the peformance.

I'm looking at getting 2/4 of the hikvision 3mp bullets to run an ip based system. Now I know everything from cables to dvr will need upgrading.

Whilst for the moment I will initially get 2 hiks it will in time be running 4 max

Looking at the nvr side of things has anybody any experience with mini nvr's from china

Looking at the spec sheets they seem to be able to do what I want them to.

Aldo I have been unable to identify if they can run internal drives or are they only external as they do only look small

I've been searching for any information I can on them but haven't been able to find any

Thanks guys

February 8, 2014