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I'm looking to using this on a hardwired network. From what I understand I need to setup a RADIUS server. Is this correct?

I would do it just like this http://www.trutv.com/video/tiger-team/tiger-team-101-1-of-4.html

I am sorry. I misunderstood. I did not realize that you were talking about a criminal. I guess it depends on the target (your customer [or your own installation]). It depends on the crook. If they cut the land line then yes they can Jam a radio signal. Now would the panel still send out a signal once the jammer has been turned off, or has left the area? This would rule out spur of the moment teenagers, and I would assume this would rule out street level drug addicts with an on the spur crime. Now you have me paranoid as I have different codes to the alarm given to the maid, butler, maintenance guy, gardner, and the inlaw who stays in the pool house. Now I am wondering if this is an inside job as the crook only has to turn off the alarm with a code. What do I do, what do I do??? ____________________________________________________________ Has any one used Alarm.com? http://www.alarm.com/index.asp This company took over the beeper infrastructure of towers, and satellites, and converted it to a wireless alarm communications system. This is great for spec houses, or construction trailers where the phone/cable voip services have not been connected. ____________________________________________________________ C7 in CA I would like to see pictures of your handi work!! If it was me knowing how alarms work I would cut the phones and jam the cell then unplug and disconnect the battery. I have to think like a criminal to install alarm systems. To prevent jamming I would put the Cell unit in a different location then the panel and use a trigger input on the cell with a spare pair of wires on the phone feed. If someone cuts the phone wire that will trigger the cell to send a code to central station regardless of what happens with the panel and hopefully before he can find it to jam it. But if they have one that can jam 200' game over. Also keep in mind most panels can be programed to turn on the bell output if the phone is cut when the system is armed.

is one of these your camera? http://www.networkipcamera.com/products.php

I under stand that but tell that to the guy thats breaking in to your house. Last time I checked we all have jobs because people don't follow the laws!!!!! If I was a criminal I would have one. LOL I know where that magnet is!!!! It's on the floor in pieces every time someone opens the door. I would use a 3/4" plunger, quick easy, fix.

Welcome stop by the access control section

Looks like a nice product but I like Isonas because we are keeping everything IP based.

I just ordered one of there Powernet readers with a keypad to test. I have a 2 door install I would like to use this system on.

What cameras did you use?

I suggest a quick search of the forum. Meanwhile, can you post any pix of an IP camera at night, in a dark club or bar, and in a large back yard in pitch dark (not an ounce of light in the area)? What analog camera would you use? with or without IR?

Question, how many CCTV jobs, non IP camera jobs, have you done before? Its a relative question as you are suggesting that you cannot get a quality image from a Non IP camera, which is incorrect and anyone that has installed high quality CCTV Professional systems, would know that. Rory I have installed hundreds of cameras which without ever seeing a IP camera I was happy with the image. The IP cameras I have and installed have a better image quality. It's like HDTV vs progressive scan DVD vs analog TV or digital TV.

Forget about price we are talking image quality.

Yes, been able to do that for years now with DVR systems. In fact you can do that with a $200 DVR. So you can log in to the cameras with out the DVR?

We are not comparing Ford to Ferrari. Both cars will get you from point A to point B. One camera system will identify the person who shoot your employee in the head and one system will not.

So you aren't making any adjustments in the camera then.

Gold plating means to use advanced technology that does not provide a commensurable business benefit. In other words, to use new technology because it's new and 'better', not because it offers clear financial benefits. Let's say I propose 3 megapixel cameras instead of analog ones. That doubles the price of the camera and potentially triples or quadruples the cost of storage. The total cost of the proposal may increase 50% or more. Increasing costs to improve video quality without generating a business benefit is by definition gold plating. Perhaps you believe you are generating a business benefit which is fine but please explain so I can understand better. Better video quality is the benefit. Give me a model number of a analog camera any price and lets go head to head with a AXIS camera. Lets make this fair. Those 3 megapixel cameras are going to replace 12 analog cameras where is the price saving now?

Agreed. But as you said, your system was $4,000 more without installation. You could buy tools, connectors, extra cabling and labor for any potential ground loops for a fraction of $4,000. Also, if you had a CCTV tech on site, he would have the tools readily and could have done this job in a day, less than a day? Please don't get me wrong. I agree with you that there are benefits. I am just not sure if they outweigh the costs for many applications. But I didn't have a tech on site and I won the job from companies that did. I think that speaks for it self. You get more for your money with IP cameras. Now this company can have there costumers log into the PTZ camera and look at parts. They are also linking one of the cameras to there website. Stuff you can't do with analog cameras.

I believe we are selling CCTV to provide an ROI to our customer. Delivering such an ROI requires us to understand the full spectrum of needs and costs of our customers. Certainly, the customer decides but I need to determine which choices have the greatest potential of providing a business benefit. If I simply choose video quality, I may designing a gold plated system that the customer cannot afford. I may also lose the business to a competitor that better appreciates the full breadth of my customer's issues. Specifically, on the video quality part, I am being serious. Unlike for consumers, most security managers are not concerned about how 'nice' the video looks. To the extent that video quality reduces losses or camera count, video quality is valuable. Otherwise, most security managers, in my experience, will view it as a waste of money. I don't agree with any of this. What does gold plating have to do with video quality?

You are correct I can't do anything with the positioning, placement, lens adjustment. But I was very easy for them to install they knew how to run and terminate cat5. They didn't have to buy and special tools and connectors. They didn't have any ground loops. They didn't have to run extra cable for the PTZ.

How do you log into the cameras on a analog system to adjust white balance, color balance, brightness, contrast, and exposure? Have the camera send emails on motion detection? The system included: 3 Axis 211 2 Axis 211a 1 Axis 213PTZ 6 Axis Camera Station licenses All in Videolarm housings. With a analog system what happens when you have a 8 channel dvr full and the customer wants to add 2 more cameras?

This is going to be a good one. Great topic jhonovich I always recommend IP cameras for every customer I have. Sorry I don't agree with the "bang:buck factor". It is all about image quality for me and my potential customers. I have been a installer in the audio, video and security industry for over 10 years and I have yet to see any analog cctv at any price point that has a better picture then a IP camera. If you know of one please let me have the model number so I can order it and do a image to image comparison. I also do a head to head comparison with three cameras. One Megapixel, IP camera, and analog cameras with a video server. I tell them the prices so they have realistic expiations with the system and IP has won every time. Here is a great example. I just bid and won a job that is over 6 hours away so I was not installing the system. The customer had quotes from other companies that where cheaper with more cameras and included installation!!! The first time I talked to the customer I asked them if they had seen any images from any of the other systems. He said yes so I asked him if he ever seen images from a AXIS camera and of course he said no. When he logged into one of my cameras and was blown away with the image quality. Keep in mind my quote was $4000 more without installation. Try this with a analog system: I assigned IP address and ports to the cameras before I shipped them. The customer had someone install the cameras and install the software on their server. At this point I logged in the the cameras and NVR software and set the whole system up in under a hour from my office. They are very happy with the system and they are going to order more cameras soon. I have a lot more to say but my head hurts.

[quote name="1200.00$(beats the 11' date='000 we spent on the 3terabyte pelco dvr for the main plant)" [/quote] How many channels does your DVR have?

Did the lighting change for one of the cameras?

thank you very nice

Yeah, Cool Stuff! Have you ever used it? looks pricey. Do you get Cabling Business Magazine? I think I may have seen rapidrun featured there. We did an install were we ran a bunch of pre-made VGA cables for a client. What a nightmare... Never did find an easy way to do it. We used pull socks but it was still snaggy. Use it all the time!!!! I used to run 5 R-G6 for component video. With the Rapidrun I can install them in a quarter of the time and you only have to drill a 3/4" hole for the wire.