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    I read this earlier: http://www.wsj.com/articles/canon-to-buy-swedens-axis-for-2-8-billion-1423554729

     

    From the sounds of it, it will remain fairly segregated. I don't think Canon plans to meddle too much.

     

    Also, I wasn't aware that Canon and Axis had an established history.

     

    If Canon doesn't combine Axis and Milestone this will go down as the worst business decision ever. Avigilon has been so successful because they make more money per channel. Compared to just selling cameras or VMS licenses


  2. Of course these cameras have back doors and to think Axis does not is naïve. Heck, one of the first news I've seen on cameras being easily compromised was with Axis, about 5 years back, one reason we decided on Mobotix at the time.

     

    But Axis as well as others are feeling the pain of China. Not going to argue which camera is better, but many consider Dahua & Hikvision "good enough" and comparing cameras that cost 1/4th of what the comparable Axis product costs has to be impacting them. They are smart to have cashed out. Also consider that most Axis cameras are made in Asia or hecho in Mexico anyway.

     

    Just look at what staple of the business costs, a varifocal motorized lens, full featured 1080P or 3MP vandal dome. From Axis like their P3365-VE runs about a $1,000 to the new Dahua's for $200. Sure, Axis will give you great support, but hard to ignore the numbers.

     

     

    I have some very large customers were support is most important to them. I have shown them Hik and they said thanks but were not interested.

     

    We also discovered a major bug in Hikvisions cameras where some cameras have the same unique identifier as others. This is major problem when you connect 2 of them on the same VMS.

     

    Not to mention I am not interesting is promoting the "race to the bottom" which Hikvision/Dahua have no problem making happen.

     

    Good think is Hikvision/Dahua suck developing user friendly software and the market is now switching to end to end solutions. Soon there will not be any independent.

     

    Lastly I would also defend Hikvsion/Dahua if I had a review site that refers people to a sister e-commerce site that I secretly own.


  3. We can only spiculate that Axis wanted to sell. Based on the offer that Canon has on the table this is one of those offers that is very hard to turn down. I also think this is a smart move for Canon as Milestone and Axis's headquarters is/was only 50 miles apart.

     

    As for Hikvision and Dahua. The jury is still out for me. Image quality is good and they seem to be reliable but no one has been able to prove that there cameras and DVR/NVRs are secure and don't have any back door access. I am spoken with many people that feel the same way.


  4. Here is a sample I took the other day with the 12mp 180.

     

     

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/112pey8op1i6crt/produce-av12185.jpg?dl=0

     

     

    I never really considered mounting them at lower height like this. That is significantly more useful than I had in my head based on all of the other pictures I've seen.

     

    We have mounted many of the Avigilon 180s 7-8ft off the ground and the customer is extremely happy with the results. One lobby we have 2 180 cameras installed and we have total coverage and ID shots at every door.


  5. I OMNI camera concept is awesome. I have a customer that is extremely happy with the coverage but not so happy that the camera only works 10% of the time. Need another manufacturer to produce this camera and I will sell a lot of them

     

    Where are you guys installing these where another camera style just wouldn't do? I can think of a number of spots to place them, but those same locations could just as easily have a dome or bullet in it's place. Is it just their low profile nature that draws people to them.

     

    I'm clearly missing something with these and I've been begging people for awhile to lay into me and tell me how stupid I'm being.

     

    Edit: Is it an FOV thing and not wanting to use multiple cameras to cover the same area?

     

    Keep in mind its one cable for basicly 4 cameras and one VMS license. In hospitals it can get very pricey to run cables so this camera can be very useful IF IT WORKED

     

    We mounted the 20MP OMNI on the side of a building with man doors on either side of the camera. We used 2.8mm lenses for 2 of the imagers to give us a 180 FOV and then we used 8mm lens for ID shots at one door and 16mm lens for ID shots at the other door. total coverage on the one side of the building with 1 camera.


  6. I don't have an Axis camera on my personal system at this time. But I just logged into a system that had an Axis P1204. I did find it odd the I/O for the Axis camera was not listed in the Digital Input list.

     

    That was a 4.12 system.

     

    I have only seen I/O for cameras connected via ONVIF (other then Avigilon)

     

    Your other option is to get a MOXA network I/O unit and use that for the trigger interface.


  7. Got it all working now

     

    The big problem is that Avigilon doesn't support Axis M3007 360 Camera, so I can't see the individual views, just the 360 image!

     

    Im trying it at home as well and it doesn't support any of my 7 Acti cameras (E76, E74, E76, E46), I've got them all working with ONVIF but by default Acti camera's give 2 streams which can't be turned off so every camera has 2 streams which is annoying.

     

    Avigilon also seems a bit more resource heavy over Exacq. Both have pros and cons, if only Exacq was the same price as Avignon!

     

     

    Having dual streams is a good thing. Avigilon uses HDSM to automatically switch between streams depending on screen resolution and avaible bandwidth. While always recording the full res stream.

     

    I have been using the M3007 with Avigilon for years. I find it most effective wall mounted.

     

    The major advantage of Avgilon over Exacq is the speed of searching and reviewing video. Also Avigilon has more polished user interface. If you need to use Mac with Avigilon their HTML5 web interface works very well in any browser.

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