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Main question is the longevity of these units.

I have the Sony fisheye installed, and it works....ok. I've had to set it to continuously record, as the motion detection setting doesn't work with ACC and that camera. I'm not that happy with the quality of the video/images it captures however. I'd rather deploy a few regular cameras to cover the same space, than one of these, just due to the image quality. Does the Oncam fisheye look similar to the Sony?

Fisheye cameras are designed for situational awareness if you expect any more you will be disappointed.

I have a customer that just installed one of the M3007s and is running ACC4 is why I was asking.

I was hoping to use that as leverage to get him to upgrade.

With 5.6 you can pull the fisheye stream and the quad stream from the camera. It is definitely an improvement over 4.0

Just following up:

Has anyone used a Axis M3007 in ACC 5.6?

I have one installed at a site running 5.4. In ACC 5.6 Avigilon pulls multiple streaming from the camera as there is no client side dewarping.

If you want client side dewarping and motion detection http://www.oncamgrandeye.com/ works.

Oncam works with motion detection in Avigilon. Firmware 1.9 is required.

Does anyone know if ACC5 can dewarp the Brickcom MD 300NP? I would assume so since it also uses the ImmerVision lens. In that case, it would be better than the Sony because Avigilon supports MD for that cam.

OnCam is is the only one that I know that works.... I got one today but haven't had time to test

I have the Sony and Axis cameras and today I will have the OnCam camera. Sony does dewarp but motion detection doesn't work. Axis doest work with motion but no client side dewarping as ACC pulls multiple streams from the camera.

The Oncam will dewarp in ACC and motion detection I was told does work. I will follow up later today after I test it.

I would check to see if you can mount the Vivotek camera the way you want. I haven't installed this camera but looking at the mount I am not sure it would be able to mount this under the eve.

I would stick with Axis or Samsung.

Good luck with that setup. Your customers must have a fat upload pipe with unlimited data for this to work. Not to mention your head office will need a huge download pipe for all 20-30 locations to stream to.

Flir is licensing a product from BriefCam. You can add Briefcam to most major VMS solutions as another service for additional costs (license per camera) or you can use Briefcam to sift through exported video. Think police departments that are given a lot of video from an event. They can feed AVI files into Briefcam.

http://briefcam.com/

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It doesn't look very rugged in the pics.

I was going to order one to test. Let me know how it works for you

I have never seen this done reliably. Would love to hear your results when you find a solution.

Most NVR/VMS systems have a "camera disconnect" event that you use to trigger alerts or emails.

I would check with Genetec to see if they support the DVRs. Milestone might be another option. Both are paid and enterprise level.

Have a look at http://www.indigovision.com/

 

What is your application?

IV? I thought you were an Avigilon specialist.

 

In our testing of a number of VMS systems, IndigoVision did have among the lowest latencies - on the order of 150-170ms. It does tend to provide the lowest latencies using their own hardware, including cameras and encoders, but also has tested relatively low with Axis, Sony and Bosch cameras.

 

Their cameras are not cheap, though. 720P fixed are on the order of $800+ and their Ultra 2k cameras (1080p) are on the order of $1,300+.

 

BTW, Avigilon tested the worst, at least using their own analog encoders (>500ms).

If latency is important then then indigovision is a good choice but if you're looking for ease of use solution that is easy to deploy and manage then Avigilon better option.

Alot has changed since you tested Avigilon years ago and even some of your feature requests have been added

What cameras do you have? There are different flavors of SDI and there are encoders like this one from Dahua which would record the HD stream.

http://www.dahuasecurity.com/products/nvs0404hdc-a-836.html

Post a link to the cameras please.

FYI this HD Encoder from Dahua will work with Avigilon but motion detection does not work and you need a license per camera not encoder.

http://www.dahuasecurity.com/products/nvs0404hdc-a-836.html

We manage large Avigilon systems currently up to 1000 cameras for one of our customers. Once you get up over 100 cameras managing the system becomes very important.

Couple of issues using Hikvision cameras in ACC:

Motion detection is configured in the cameras not in ACC meaning you have to log into every camera and set it up unlike Avigilon cameras which are all configured in the client software via a right click.

No pre or post motion detection unless you have Enterprise and configure alarms for each camera

This is the biggest issue: No pixel search. For large systems which users search video everyday pixel motion search is a HUGE time saver and one of the main reasons we see customers use Avigilon end to end solutions.

The application is a IP based video system that is used to operate equipment, this is why it needs to be low latency. I know that IP systems inherently have latency, but I need for the system to have the lowest possible latency, we commonly use Avigilon, but it is no where near fast enough. We do have some custom built software that is fast, but support for it is near impossible, and it is very limited.

Have a look at http://www.indigovision.com/

That's why I recommended Indigovision.

Question - will the pre and post recording via the Alarm event show up in the camera recording video timeline as well?

 

Or will the pre / post Alarm event recording only show up in the Alarm "tab"?

It will show up in the recorded time line.

Have a look at http://www.indigovision.com/

What is your application?

Looks like pre/post is not available for ONVIF cameras at this point but since you have Enterprise you can make this happen.

You need to setup a alarm event based on motion detection and you can set up pre and post recording.

Not gonna happen with a moving vehicle unless you have total control of the lighting.