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$200.00 ???? You should be paying 135.00 from one of maybe 500 online sellers of the 760 The success and the RIGHT thing to do is educate a buyer, regardless of their budget. You'll never convince me that even a cheap buyer wouldn't shell out another 50 dollars or so for an H.264 that AT LEAST HAS A DARN USB port to back up data. Oh wait, I forgot, with the 760 you can connect a PC to the network port and back up video that way, after spending two days with the little old lady, and then you can burn a cd for the police and then the attorney will tell the judge the video isnt admissable because its changed formats twice. While we're ranting, the 760 records local images in MPEG4 "software misery" format, yet sends images over the net in massive MJPEG file sizes. Is it me, or is that as backwards as it gets? marketing marketing marketing marketing and education. Every buyer in the world would gladly fork over a measly 50 dollars more for a dvr that features usb backup, hardware compression, and doesnt log jam the internet transferring those massive MJPEG file sizes. geeeeeeeez

Again, please tell me why Aventuras Hikvison DVR is better than all the other OEM suppliers. If I buy a Hikvision from China and stick my name on it, will mine be better? If I buy the spot on exact DVR on Ebay as opposed to ADI, and I save 2000.00 dollars, is my DVR of lesser quality?

yes, certainly a step up from the old China stuff. I give kudo's to Dahua, Dali, and the bigggest of them all, Hikvision. So my question is: Why do so many distributors stick a 2 dollar name plate on these DVR and pretend they are the manufacturers of something so incredibly special, that a 16CH D1 DVR should cost 4k? I understand oem branding, but be real, charge a reasonable price.

AVTech uses their own DISASTROUS MPEG4 algorithm. My guess is a T.I or ADI (BLackfin) dsp h.264 at 1CIF looks better than most 2CIF or even a few D1 standard MPEG4 units. I've seen the Texas Instruments Davinci DSP recording at 1CIF and it was near DVD quality. Not D1 of course, but I was blown away. And, there are now a ton of Davinci installed DVR units to choose from. H.264 is the standard now. Even Apple uses H.264, I think that says it all. Not to be too hard on AVTech, for 99.00 FOB Taiwan, the 760 is a decent disposable 4ch DVR.

Avtech? You cant possibly purchase a cheaper DVR. Seriously, the lowest cost DVR systems on the planet. I wouldnt install a 760 or any AVTech DVR to guard my pet squirrel.

For the record, both ICRealtime and Mace sell the identical, exact, precise DVR line. They both come from the same manufacturer in Hangzhou , China. The only difference is they use different cases to distinguish themselves apart from one another. In fact, ICRealtime is ran by former Mace folks. Not saying thats good or bad, just stating facts. I was reading ridiculous posts as folks were critical of one model, and praised another. Knowing, both are the same units made me laugh uncontrollably. I am further amazed at how cctv companies equate price with quality. That is a huge error in judgment. I've installed Argus JPEG2000 units much to my disappointment, and paid a pretty penny for Geovision cards that simply are over rated and over priced. My DM units were the most expensive sold, certainly not the most powerful or reliable. Not too mention, a saturated product with no separation for resellers and installers to ever actually make a profit. Not picking on anyone, but can we all agree that 99% of these embedded DVR, and PCI cards are all coming out of China as Korea collapses under Chinas cost structure? My current distributor in the midwest is awesome, but!!!! they are just like everyone else, they import, slap a name on a unit, and pretend they are a brand. Dont mean that in a negative way, all companies do it including Pelco now. Be careful everyone, I have learned a very expensive lesson last few years, PRICE MEANS NOTHING!!!! I'm making great money now even in this economy we're in. My products are damn reliable, and about half the cost of what I was paying in previous times. Someone please offer me an argument as to why pricing on dvr and also PTZ is so out of whack? I paid 1299 dollars for the exact same DVR (different nameplate of course) as my recent purchase of 545.00???????? Help me grasp this industry guys. How can this stuff happen? Both claimed to be exclusive, both used unique brands, but inside, clearly, these two units were the same overseas manufacturer, spec, and every single chip the same. I guess it takes years to find the fairest distributor out there. I wish distributors had to bid, had to install, and could understand how competitive our market is. When I win a bid, I normally am against five other installation companies. Spec, warranty, and a darn good price wins the business. As for my original posting of ICRealtime vs. Mace. I respect both companies, I respect anyone in this tough industry, but I stand behind my comments. Both are merely another Overseas built DVR with different front panels. As for pelco's fantastic monitors, they're simply a Taiwan (HiSharp) same as tons of ebay models, same EXACT monitor, with a name glued on the front. I wish I had a million dollars, I'd call China and buy, and glue my name on the front and charge (overcharge) installers and hope for the same (that everyone equates a high price to high quality) Actually, I'm too darn nice to do that. Best of luck everyone.