Erron S.

Then post a CIF image.

The simple fact is that a CIF image is 101,376 pixels, period. Sure, you can make them bigger or smaller, but you can't fill in the gaps. A full screen CIF image looks terrible. Change the res on your monitor right now and tell me you like it.

Show me a DVD that is recorded in CIF too.

CIF video?(for those that don't know, that's a postage stamp size of image, 352x288 pixels)

LOL, at that size just buy a webcam from Tiger Direct for 50 bucks and use Logitechs software.

Couldn't agree more Sawbones. If she hadn't happened to just log on at random, that video wouldn't have done much good. She needs a MP camera.

Well, nowadays the new hotness are megapixel cameras. The real trick is storing and sending them. That's where megapixel re-compression comes into play. As far as image quality is concerned, analog doesn't even come close. For instance, a decent analog recorder records in 704x480. It doesn't matter if you have an awesome 600 line camera, or a standard 380 line camera, no matter what you record 337,920 pixels. Now compare that to an entry level 1.3 Million pixel camera. Right out of the box you get 4 times the clarity.

You probably won't get many responses to this question. Most manufactures(aka resellers) re-badge an import of some sort as to mask the original manufacture so that dealers and distribution hubs don't go directly to the manufacture and buy direct. As a long time veteran in this industry, I will tell you that 'most' of them that are sold online are exactly what you are describing.

Have a look at these guys. www.etsnm.com

We carry these guys and they are very similiar to the Louroe product, but way less expensive. We couple these with a good IQ Eye megpixel camer and our 2 way audio recording dvr and we're in biz. Not only can you record the audio taking place, but also have a 2 way conversation over IP. Really neat stuff for international lectures and what not.

That is fantastic! Love it when a plan comes together.

Thanks Soundy. It's always great to hear when our products are out in the field and making a difference. I'll add one thing that seems to always be the deciding factor when i'm talking to my dealer network, it's the recompression of megapixel cameras. That always seems to be the one 'kicker' when somebody specs our NVR or DVR, especially if they are going IP. Having the ability to store megapixel data without having to go to huge storage arrays is paramount in most cases. If anyone on here would ever like a demo of this, call me, I'll show you exactly what I mean in terms of file size for megapixel cameras with my in-house demo here in Colorado.

I am curuious though, other than Soundy who has used our Vigil DVR's and NVR's?

Here's a few more MP links that have some good, need to know type of info...

http://www.3xlogic.com/megapixel

http://www.3xlogic.com/rsc/megapixel/megapixel-comparison.html

This even has some MP video links from an actual system about 3/4 the way down the page..

http://www.3xlogic.com/aztech

What are you looking for in a DVR?

Hey! Right on, where are you at in Colorado? We're over here in Westiminster. Are you a dealer? I ask because we are a manufacture and I could get you some leads depending on what area you are in. Stop by and say hello sometime man, good to see another local.

Hi !!!

 

is migrated from analog sytems to IP now. But is new for networking.

 

While designing Networks, IT poeple typically suggest

 

Web managed switches , support of SMTP , VPN , IEEE 802.1x , IGMP , Supports standard Management Information Bases

 

I can understand all these filtering & above mentioned protocols are useful for desktops since user there do lot of fuctions (read/ write ) over network....hence tracking there activity is important.

 

While camera streams videos.

 

IP cameras have QoS for applying the security policies... thus security required can be implemented at camera end.

 

So far web managed switches are concern, if we have only 1 switch of typically 24/48 port , cann't we go for unmanaged switching??

 

question here is being a standalone network (dedicated for CCTV) with typically 30-40 camera sites , all these security at network level is real ly required??

any suggesstions on this is appreciated.

 

regards,

 

Kalpesh

This question has been answered already. Anything networked into an existing network should have PCI (payment card industry) compliance or the user of the system is at risk of having their credit card processing abilities removed. Something to think about for all the guys that routinely drop a imported DVR with no compliance into a convience store. Who's at fault when they pull their CC abilities? There's also HIPPA and SOX that are regulators in this industry. There's a nice white paper on my website concerning PCI compliance, I would go read it for sure. There's also a ton of info out there that pertains to this via a quick google search.

If you are using a cat 5 in the form of video baluns then the interference will be considerably less. The CMRR of the twisted wire plus the comparator should be able to shunt all noise off the line. It certainly helps, but it's never 100%. Coupled with the fact that I have yet to see a video balun that supports more than 400 lines of resolution (1mhz = 80 lines of res.) and you'd be much better off just running the wire around these sources of interference. Or, go to IP that transmits in digital.

I think I didn't ask the right question.

 

Can fluorescent ballast cuase problem if the rg59 is very closed to it?

 

Thanks.

Yes, it sure will. Any EMI or RFI generating equipment should be avoided at all costs when running your wire.

I would do my best to catch his actions on record. If he's throwing things in your backyard, he is in violation. Get that on video, then call the police. When they come and you show them your recordings, ask them to look at his cameras while they are over there having a talk. Mention in passing that he has one aimed at your bathroom window. I find that giving the police just enough info to start their imagination will do wonders in a case like this. I think you should certainly do everything you can legally, like installing a UF 500 Infrared emitter aimed directly at his cameras.

Cheap, fast, reliable.....pick 2.

Just about any dvr manufacture can you give you 4-8 camera inputs. The same goes for the hard drives, it's just storage. The image quality if you want anything over analog standard image quality will be megapixel cameras. Once you have megapixel cameras, transmitting it over the internet will be bandwidth limited unless you have a DVR/NVR that recompresses megapixel images down into the range of analog cameras. I only know of 1 system that has this capability, ours. It's not around 1000 bucks though.

That's one of the two reasons I sell the IQ Eye cameras.

http://www.iqeye.com/index.php/weatherproof-security-camera.html

Not only do they come with the proper lens already installed, but they also have the IQ Focus tool built in. With these cameras, and really MP in general, lens setup is critical for a proper image. The old way of tweaking the lens until it -looks- like a good image is not only tricky but doesn't take full advantage of the cameras abilities. By using the IQ Focus tool you can achieve clarity that even a seasoned veteran in the industry can't do with the naked eye. I had a dealer set one up with a 22" monitor using nothing but his eyes. It was good image honestly, then I showed him the focus tool. He picked up about 5% additional clarity overall on the image.

Are you using the proper RG-59 for CCTV?

Agreed. It sounds to me like you have foil shielded -CATV- wire, not CCTV wire.

Yes, these guys are correct. Having the correct monitor settings will make all the difference in the world, that's for sure.

Is Geovision really viewed as high end?

Nice, I bet they will catch him.

One of my favorite videos is watching a dually back up, the guy in the bed throws a chain over the camera (other side connected to the 5th wheel) and the last thing the camera see's is the chain going tight. Great face shot and license plate from the video too. High school prank was the ultimate outcome of that one.

Our company will be there as well. I don't think we are doing a booth this year, probably just doing a few showings in a private suite.

What's the hot topic this year fellas? Analytics, megapixel, POS integration?

A thick bar that slowly scrolls from the bottom to the top? That's a "hum bar" which is caused by a ground loop.

Erron S.

Ya, that part of the story was a little confusing to me as well. I think he was just meaning that cameras as a whole are getting cheaper and the technology is progressing into megapixel. (2 seperate thoughts kinda bunched together I assume?) Needless to say it was pretty neat seeing our gear on TV. That kind of free advertising is priceless in my opinion. Great stuff.

You are on the right track with the WDR idea. It sounds like you have a high contrast area with the dark shadows and bright reflection, exactly what a WDR camera is made for. By adjusting the back light compensation on your current camera, you could make the bright area darker at the expense of the shadowed area going even darker and vice versa. By switching to a WDR camera the camera will adjust these areas individually. (pixim cameras do it per pixel insted of globally)

That's pretty cool! I remember when the 'entry level' flir was over 10k not very long ago. I'm not sure about residential though? Certainly for the port security personel and government.