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 Post subject: Camera System Upgrades
PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 11:32 am 
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Hello everyone, new to the forum, first time poster...

In response to ongoing issues with thefts from vehicles in my neighborhood , I installed a 4 camera system at my home. I've included a link below that shows a typical attempt on my vehicle:

https://vimeo.com/201344109

As you can see, the face of the perpetrator is unrecognizable and I aim to fix that...

What can be done to solve this problem? The camera is a Hornet 4.0 from Security Camera Warehouse, a 4mp camera at 20fps with a claimed IR vision to 100 feet. The camera is mounted approximately 10 feet above the ground and the far side of the parked vehicles is 25 to 30 feet away.

My initial plan is to install brighter motion activated lights. If you notice when the motion lights activate the image sharpens up considerably, however I don't think the lights I'm using push enough light out into the street where my subject is walking and therefore I'm not getting the necessary resolution...

I could zoom the camera in tighter on the vehicles, but then I'd lose field of view... I've often captured attempts on my neighbors' vehicles and a tighter shot would prevent me from seeing that part of the street.

Right now the plan is brighter motion lights, followed by a camera upgrade to 4K with 150feet IR range, maybe a tighter shot on the vehicle with a PTZ overhead to cover the panerama...

Y'all's ideas and experience would be most welcome!


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 Post subject: Re: Camera System Upgrades
PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 9:02 pm 
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You already have a nice camera setup. I think the biggest fallacy of the camera craze is that cameras are the answer to crime. Yes cameras help immensly, but cameras only show what has already occured. Your stuff is already gone. Even if the police catch the person, your stuff may have already been broken, pawned, traded, lost, thrown away, etc. They may sit in jail but you still lose your stuff. And thats IF the police catch them. I use cameras mostly in a perfectly lit retail store. I get a great show of their face as they leave. But if no one can identify them, a face is pretty meaningless to police. Police need a name, address, or license plate.

havent used 4k cameras yet, but that seems to be your next step if you want better video. Your lighting is already very good. I think 4K 8MP cameras require H.265, which means you'll need new software and NVR that is H.256 compatible.


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 Post subject: Re: Camera System Upgrades
PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:41 am 
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Yeah, upgrading the cameras will necessitate an NVR upgrade as well... And your points are well taken, I guess my goal is to increase the chance from zero to something slightly greater with a recognizable face... The lighting is adequate up to the side of the vehicles facing my house but drops off dramatically as you get out into the street...


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 Post subject: Re: Camera System Upgrades
PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:21 pm 
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Some cameras offer nightime color view. Never used one, but it sounds promising.

https://www.lorextechnology.com/hd-ip-s ... DIP822-1-p


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 Post subject: Re: Camera System Upgrades
PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:58 pm 
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Mrpink, my opinion is more zoom plus more light wouldn't hurt either. There are several threads around about how many pixels per ft/meter for identifying faces around but I found this.
http://vteb.gov.lv/uploads/files/cctv_r ... _final.pdf


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 Post subject: Re: Camera System Upgrades
PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 2:36 pm 
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That PDF is fantastic, thank you...


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