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hi

what cable would be suitable to use for 12v power to 2 cameras

rg59 is 200ft long to dvr

so i am placing 5 amp power supply local next to cameras

about 15 to 20 meters away

and will use seperate cable for power instead of shotgun cable

i can only buy 305meters of cat 5 cable

and its too expensive

what will be suitable to buy

from city electrical as there is a shop local to me

thanks

hi

has anyone seen one of these in action

and are they any good

just seen one at £150 second hand

http://www.cop-eu.com/sections/specs/window_specs/window_spec.php?product=15-CD51PTZ

model number 15cd51

not 15-cd51h-u

cheers

Have you bought a system yet?

not for my friend yet

my friend for the house and large building above

is thinking of 2 x apollo 8 hd's and we are going to see a local instaler to price all the cameras and cable and power suplys e.c.t

tomorrow

we are in the uk

wheres a good place to buy from at a good resonable rate

and what price do we need to be paying for an apollo hd 8 channel

500 or 1000 gb?

thanks for all your help and advice

thanks for the sugestions ill take them on board

will have to have extra cameras if possible

a couple of extra varifocal to zoom in on the hot spots

what about this also

the house

max 6 fixed cameras or 2 ptz and 2 fixed

there is a upvc conservatory to the right garden

cheers

a better picture of the building

if thats any better

the cameras are going on the outside and then 1 or 2 will be fitted later on the inside

its just the outside for now

there is a carpark to left of the building just open land around the rest of it

all way round the outside needs to be covered to protect whats inside

there is open land on 3 sides and carpark on 1 .

thanks for any sugestions

would this be ok

or can it be planed better

hi

where would you install cameras on this shape building

can use upto 6 fixed cameras

or 5 fixed and 1 cheep ptz

plenty of light at front and left side

but no light at right or back

also what cameras would be good to use

£600 camera budget

cheers

building is 200 feet x 60 feet

couldnt get out with the snow to have a look at them

but for 70 quid each second hand im going to give these a try

ill let you know if they are ok

http://www.camsecure.co.uk/TripleIR.html

cheers

hi mate

the one i setup last week was this one

http://www.adata.co.uk/Catalogue/DVR/Apollo-HD-Lite/8-Channel/APOLLO-HD-8-Lite-DVD-Sata-500Gig-HDD-APOLLOS-HDLITE8-500

this is the one im thinking of buying for myself

http://www.adata.co.uk/Catalogue/DVR/Apollo-HD/4-Channel/Apollo-HD-4-Channel-Sata-DVR-500gb-HDD-APOLLOS-HD4-500

ill ask him to set one of the £70 cameras up to his tv and look at the quality before i buy

what sort of money would i have to spend for a decent ir camera

i would prefer a vandle dome one

are the qvis cameras good quality?

thanks for your relpy

hi

just found the cameras and prices on another web site

http://www.nabishi.net/acatalog/Infra_Red_Cameras.html

camera 19 and 20 down on the list 90 each

need to know if they are any good as im going to have a look tomorrow

also there is some other ones 17th and 18th camera down

does anyone know if these are any good they are 70 each second hand

also is the apollo hd 4 chan worth 200 new in box

cheers

can anyone tell me if the apollo 4 channel hd dvr are any good

can get one for around £200

have these got rs485?

also are these cameras any good (15-CM453VI, 15-CM453VIC,

15-CM463VI)

http://www.cop-eu.com/acatalog/All_in_One_Cameras.html

cheers

also is the dvr any good for networking with a dinamic ip address

do you have to have dns service

cheers

thanks for the sugestions

i think the easyest for me is to use shotgun rg59 and run all the wires into the loft then out onto the outside wall and down to where the dvr is located

and then use some 1" conduit or wire mold down the outside wall

i think im better using metal conduit as it would be a bit more theft resistant

i have found this

http://www.tradingdepot.co.uk/DEF/product/!!GC37!!/A006004/Electrical%20Supplies/Conduit%20/%20PVC%20&%20Steel%20Conduit/Steel%20Channel/Galvanised%20Steel%20Channel%2037mm%202m

any better sugestions

can the wires be run from the loft internaly to the dvr room

or do the wires have to go onto the outside wall?

cheers

if you are fitting a cctv dvr system with 4 to 8 cameras on a large house

and the dvr is going in a room downstairs

how would you go about installing all the wires to the dvr

do you install the wires all on the outside of the house and run the cable down the wall and then drill 4 to 8 holes for the cable to get to the dvr

cheers

Finaly got it working

thanks to all that helped me

i followed the instructions that SEANHAWG gave me and it worked first time

a massive thankyou to

rory , tomcctv and SEANHAWG

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port 80 was not blocked so i used that with 37777

cheers

thanks rory

if i cant get it going tomorrow ill take you up on that

thankyou for the offer

will do mate

im going back to my friends yard tommorrow and im not coming home untill i get it

thanks

the yard internal ip is 192.168.xxx.xx

i pinged there router and found an unused ip on there lan

192.168.1xx.xx this is what i put into the dvr along with the routers subnet mask and defualt gateway

when i was trying to port forward the fritz router i think i was clicking a drop down box and the computers internal ip address 192.168.xxx.xx

was already there and i think i choose that ip address instead of the ip address 192.168.xxx.xx i put into the dvr

i couldnt find anything called services

here are the instructions for the fritz

http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/FRITZ/WLAN7170-EN/default.htm

so i forward the ports in the router to the dvr's ip address that i pinged

talktalk told us today that the yards ip address is static so that good (dont have to use no-ip.com)

thanks for your help

ill post back and let you lnow how i get on

sorry to be a pain but its the first time seting dvr's up and networking

hi mate

what i pinged was the router to find a ip thats not being used on the site LAN to use in the dvr

i will change the dvr HTTP to 88 and also try to forward port 88

but the part whats confusing me is the portforwarding

in the Zyxel router i goto network, then nat,then portforwarding,

service name ,drop down box to used define,

then name it dvr

tick the active box

put in my port i want, 88 (and also do the same again for 37777 after)

then it asks for the server ip address what ip address do i need to enter here

the yards internal ip address or the yards external ip address or the ip address i used on the dvr?

thanks

hi

i think i have nealy got it sorted

i read that the pss software, to acces the dvr local you have to put the ip that i pinged at the site and changed the last 2 or 3 digits

and then login (got it working on the sites computer)

now when i checked with canyouseeme at the site this morning the port was not open 37777 and i cant open it

i got it open yesterday but checked this morning and its not

i also got told that to acces the cameras from home (external)

then i have to put the sites external ip address in the dvr pss software from home and login

this wont work as i cant open port 37777

im going to try another router i have a d link and a zyXEKL p-660hw-t1 v2

how can i test these routers at home and check if i can open ports with them?

cheers

hi his router is Fritz Box wlan 7170 amd he is with talktalk

talktalk wont give support for port forwarding and said they dont block any ports

i have port forwarded 37777 and confirmed it with canyouseeme

im there today to have another go at it

thanks for the help again all of you

how do i check if he has a static ip and not dynamic

and what ip do i put into the dvr if accesing the dvr from outside his LAN, the one i pinged or the external ip address if its static?

also i just signed up for a free account with no-ip.com

it says its free for non heavy traffic use

there are some settings in the apollo dvr to enter the no-ip.com settings

i could only open port 37777 not 80 today used canyouseeme.org

is this ok for just accesing the cameras through the pss software

and not Http port 80 or can i change port 80 in the dvr to something els then he can logon with Http

this setup has given me a headache

thanks for your replys

i think i have got mixed up a little with which router to port forward

the camera system is at the work site and i want to view to the cameras at my friends home

i was opening ports on the home router not the work router where the dvr is

i have been back to the work site and opened port 37777 tcp

but still cannot acces the cameras from home with the pss software

how do i know if he has a dynamic or static ip address

does this matter,i think the ip address is assigned automatic with the router

hi cant get it working

i pluged the ethernet cable into the dvr

and pinged an ip address to put into the dvr along with the correct subnet mask and default gate way

and loged into the dvr as admin and changed the password

then pinged the dvr ip address and got 4 replys

these are the settings in the dvr software

title = dvr

description =

DDNS enable = not ticked

ip = 192.168.17x.xx

model = the second protocol

user = admin

password = xxxxxxxx

login type = network type tcp

port = 37777

type = dvr

confirm passwordxxxxxxxx

any idea's thanks

thanks for your help

ill post back if things dont go to plan

thankyou

hi

i have made a new post with this question as i posted at the bottom of my other post

i wont know his router type or isp untill tuesday

im wanting to set an appolo lite 8 dvr to the network so my friend can view his cameras from home (cameras are at his yard with internet conection and computer)

is this whats needed

set this section below at his yard

http://www.adata.co.uk/support/documents/ApolloandZeusDVRNetworkSetupGuideXPONLY.pdf

then at his home open needed ports on his router (37777)(80)

and install the apollo dvr network software PSS v4.04

and input the requred info into the dvr software

thanks for any help