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I will stick with any DVR that I can beat with a rubber mallet, and it will keep on running.
I am not saying AVTech is the best one out there, but it sure can take a couple of whacks, and keep running!
(yes I throw cameras on the ground to test also)!
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kpd672
Hello.
My goal is to help as much as I can. My posts are based on older equipment where there appears to be less "tech support" from dealers, vendors, and online Etailers. Yours is a brand new machine, and you should have full techsupport from where you purchased it.
I would say that the chassis is going to be similiar to the legacy equipment.
Try the KPD672. Does this match you mainboard? Try cpd 501, or 502.
One of them is going to match. It appears from some pics that were sent to me that it has a same power supply as the legacy equipment, and has similiar chipsets. I would imagine you will find the KPD672 to be a close match otherwise you will have the JP2 jumper pins that you would short.
Can you take a pic of your mainboard?
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I take it that you do not a DVR that has a network connection therefore the reason for the webserver?
How many cameras do you have connected?
I am thinking that there is a lag between the DVR, and the webserver, and then the lag getting it on to the internet.
Question: What kind of internet connections do you have? Entry level, or super high speed level?
If everything looks good on the LAN then it may be your internet Service provider issue.
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As said above. You will need to leave the building where the DVR is located, and use a different computer to test the WAN IP address.
It is like drawing a line on the map from your start point to your destination. When you are at the same building and you use the outside IP address then you are not able to draw a line. You are standing on the start finish line and no line can be drawn.
Go to another building, and now you can "draw" a line from there back to where the DVR is located.
OK! Forget my anology!
LOL!
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I second the above advice.
I have a question: Do you have video at the camera with a monitor?
I would cut the end off of each end of the cable, and reconnect the connectors, and see if that clears the problem.
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Hello everyone!
To those of you who do not know me I cut my electronics teeth on coin operated pinball machines and video games.
It all started in the early 70's when my dad took me to an ice cream parlor. You know the kind! They have tubs of ice cream, and you hand scoop them unlike the modern style where they pull a handle and it oozes out of the machine.
Imagine a kid with a nose pressed up to the glass fronted freezer trying to decide from chocolate, or rocky road, or mint chocolate only to be distracted by all kinds of choices of ice cream imaginable, and your dad is trying to pressure you into making a decision right then and there!
Bing Bing!
Chink Chink Chink!
Ding Ding!
Flap Flap!
Hmmmmmmm!
What is this?
I turn around, and what do I see? Holy Smokes Batman!
It is a row of pinball machines! These things were loud! All kinds of bells, and chimes, and blinking lights! I had to go see right then and there what these machines were!
Imagine the frustration of my dad in line trying to get an order to the ice cream clerk, and you have a kid running out of line to look at some dumb pinball machines, and you have to yell to get the child back to the freezer to make an order.
I went back to my dad, and got my ice cream, and instead of leaving as planned he allowed my sister and I to look at the machines. My dad pulls his hand out of his pockets, and gives my sister, and I some quarters.
Love at first sight! I new that I wanted to spend my life around these machines for the rest of my life! This started a life long trend for me!
In high school I was working for a very small ice cream parlor when they rented a back room, and placed some pinballs in there!
Nice!
I was in hog heaven!
Balls would get stuck on the playfield, and I soon learned how to open the door, and pull off a rail, and slide down the glass to pull the ball out, and place it back in the launch area.
There was a day when I had to lift up the whole play field to fix something, and Whoa! Here is all of these wires, and solenoids, and light bulbs! I felt like I was looking behind the scenes of the Wizard of Oz!
Over a time frame I learned to fix various things on a pinball machine.
The ice cream parlor rented the large space to the side of it, and put in video games, and pool tables, and a juke box.
They has some video games, and then one day a new game showed up. After it was plugged in and it booted up, and then went in to the "attract mode" and played the now famous tune, and history was made!
Four songs I heard played over, and over in 1980 on this juke box was Cocaine by Eric C. (I had no clue at the time what that meant)! Train Train by Blackfoot, and I loved the intro! Dirty Deeds by AC/DC, and Ah Leah by Donnie Iris!
I left my home in Florida to go to Texas, and attended DeVry Inst of Tech. I worked for Taco Bueno. This was weird for me as I am familiar with Taco Bell in Florida, but this place acted like an upscale restaurant with a fireplace, and fancy decor! They had a side room where they had video games. Note: This is the first time I ever saw a drive through with it's own kitchen!
Bingo! I got a job in the right place! Wow! Frogger, Defender, Tempest, and a funky new game called Donkey Kong! It was the ****tail table style. My friends, and I could not get enough of this game!
I get a call from my dad who says "I have a surprise for you"! I say what is it? He says "we are now proud owners of an arcade"!
I would love to have a photo of my face at that very moment! I am sure my jaw was on the ground! I felt like I owned DisneyWorld, or something!
Remember this is my life's dream coming true at that very moment in time!
I came back to Florida to find an arcade with old ancient games. My dad bit the bullet, and put a second mortgage on his house, and bought 9 Games! We bought Mrs Pac Man, Stargate, Robotron, Donkey Kong, Tempest, Frogger, Centipede, Xaxon, and Mr, and Mrs Pac Man Pinball.
The place went nuts!
I was finding broken machine in the back storeroom. I built a bench, and started working on them. The one that caught my eye was this biggest pinball machine that I ever saw in my life! It was called Hercules! I kid you not the pinball was actually a cue ball from a pool table!
Recently I was talking to some friends when the conversation turned to pinballs, and video games.
It brought back great memories from a long time ago, and I had to go and create a group on Facebook.
I would love to hear your stories about coin op video games, and pinballs, and to hear your stories about the places where you played your favorite games.
What funny stories do you have to share?
Pinball Machines
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/group.php?gid=104384649603181
Video Games
Sorry for the ramble! I hope you enjoyed my story! I look forward to hearing yours!
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I was not sure what you were speaking of. When I clicked the link I was shown the video "Can you blend an IPAD"? Ok! I game! Lets watch! Yes it blends!
LOL!
My real question is this: Is this really a commercial for the blender in the video? If it can chomp PC then it should mow through ice with no problem!
If I owned a blender company I would pay $1000 for an IPAD, and munch it up for a promo!
Would you?
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Do not be afraid of the X10 stuff.
I do not know why you are using a VCR with the advances of technology, and the price drops for equipment.
You are going to find that turning off your Camera is only going to make your VCR record black. If you VCR is recording you may as well record video.
You will need to control the VCR through with the IR. Perhaps sending pause / play signals.
A motion detector will have to be placed in a manner where it is triggered before the person walks in to the camera zone.
If the detector is in the same zone as the camera you will not have the person in the camera. By the time the detector senses the motion, and your camera receives power then you have to determine how long it takes your camera to come on line to provide good video.
The wireless outdoor motion detectors have a short range as they use the least wattage available.
I would suggest that you record full time with the VCR using 8 hour tapes, and use 3 tapes for 24 hour recording.
If you need wireless motion detectors, devices to turn the cameras on, and off, and software to control everything then let me know.
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What do you mean???
I have two hundred more links to post!!!
I was holding back!! LOL!
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The correct term would be cracker. He is not a cracker.
Hacker has so many definitions it is hard to keep up.
Your point is well taken!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_cracking
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_(computing)
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Hello
Analog wireless cameras are 300 feet line of sight. Check your specs. Line of sight means that the two antennas have to see each other. If they do not see each other then this is the first issue.
For beginer installers who need a tool then there is this plus software that can be used on a laptop.
http://www.metageek.net/products/chan-lite
It connects to a USB. Depending on what level software you use you can see things that may interfere with your cameras.
Most cordless phones are on 2.4Ghz just like your wireless cameras. The best solution is to change one, or the other to 5.8Ghz. Cordless phones come in 5.8Ghz. This will cut down on a lot of interference.
The next one is wireless internet routers.
You will need to go in to the router's configuration, and change to a different channel until you are no longer interfering with the cameras.
To test your system, un plug all wireless phone base station (not the charging stations for the extra phones), and unplug your router, and see if your video clears up.
Most wireless cameras will have about 100 milliwatts of power. This is the same as a child's walkie talkie.
You cannot put a transmitter in the same case as the camera. The heat from the transmitter will burn out the camera. This is why the power is so low. The other is you would need to build heatsinks, and fans.
High power systems will have regular cameras that plug in to an external transmitter. This will have heat sinks, and fans to keep things cool.
Poles are used to get antennas above trees, and roof tops.
The antennas have to be pointed at each other.
Omin directiona antennas will send the power signal in all directions. Beam antennas will send the power signal in one direction. Think of a beam antenna as if it were a flash light.
Point the flash light in one direction. It is narrow at the source, and it gets wider the farther away you go.
Take your cameras distance rating, and cut it in half.
Think of a ramp, or a sideways triangle. one side is signal strenght, and the bottom line is distance. The farther away you go the less power you have. The signal may go 300 feet, but there is barely any power to measure. At the half way point you have a good level of power to work with.
When you put a wall between the two antennas you will need to move the transmitter, and the receiver closer together.
In your case the distance seems pretty short.
Perhapse the wall to the garage has solid pour concrete? Perhapse it has rebar in the wall?
Unplug those devices, and see if your interference clears up.
Also X10 cameras will be on 2.4Ghz freq.
What do you find in your test?
What do you think?
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I thought for the $1000 they would also set up the exit button, (or a motion detector), the card reader, (or a push button device), and also run wiring that would go to the computer that would track users with a data base, and install the magnet, and contact for the reader.
I am glad that you are getting good info that can save you money down the road!
The magnet, and contact can be used for other purposes as well. If someone were to stick an item in to the door, and the door frame then you would know that there is a problem. It could be a simple as a delivery person using their cell phone to hold open a door while they continue to get more packages, or someone trying to let someone else in to the door.
You can time a door to prevent "tailgating" where one person follows another person while the door is open. If the door is held open for too long then an "alert" can be sent. This will allow a security guard to look at the door camera to see if the others are authorized, or not.
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I just think that paying about $1,100 (cable costs additional) to install a door contact is too much. Am I totally off-base in thinking that?I see what you are saying now!
I misunderstood. I thought for the $1000 they would also set up the exit button, (or a motion detector), the card reader, (or a push button device), and also run wiring that would go to the computer that would track users with a data base, and install the magnet, and contact for the reader.
Are they pulling a multi cable in one sheath?
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I am curious! What do the other quotes show?
The question is not how much you are going to pay for it, the question is what do you get back over a period of time?
I do not understand where you have a wholesale price of $230.00 and they are charging retail of $320.00.
They can charge what ever price they choose to charge. Competition is what keeps prices within boundaries.
I believe we all at one time, or another have dealt with a situation where we received a low end repair job, and then soon regretted that the work was performed by them.
Now you realize the cheap value is no value. There are times you may have to go to another "professional" to fix the other's Mickey Mouse Repairs! Now you have spent your cash twice for the same repair.
I do not know the company, and I would be a fool to speak either way against, or for the company.
Other quotes will give you a better view of the big picture.
The question is..
What is their reputation? If there is a service call how quickly to they respond? How do they take care of their customers?
Cheap installation companies will only make money while they are installing. In other words if they stop to come back then they are not making money on the next job. They may be not be as helpful as you would like them to be, or they may not come back at all!
Those that charge more, but perform at great levels of service are worth their weight in gold! They charge more, but they are not licking every penny to keep running the business either.
There are those who charge too much, and never show up again, and never provide support. Those kind of bussiness cannot stay in one place for long as the reputation will get out real fast, and soon!
Those that have been in the business for a long time are dependent on the local community for survival. Lose that customer base, and you are done!
What kind of company are they? Where are they located? If they come in from another state then you WILL have problems getting them to come back for small issues.
Are they listed with the BBB?
Companies that work in a thin thread may not carry enough insurance, or have the right test equipment, or the right tools for the job, or they may not have the proper license.
When things go wrong, then this would not be the time to find out the company is of no value! What happens if their tech falls off a ladder? Who is paying? Do they have insurance, or is this guy working under the table? There may not be workmans comp!
I am not trying to talk bad about this company. I am trying to say they may not be the cheapest, but they may have the most value!
Do the techs have certifications? There are some certifications that require you to spend $1000.00, or more for them.
I bet they are running plenum wire! Plenum wire is not cheap! Another company may run different wire, but then that may be out of code! If there was a fire who is responcible? Watch the fingerpointing start!
Anyone can turn a wrench, and install products!
IDEA!
You should buy the product wholesale, and you should install it yourself! It cannot be that hard can it? How long would it take you to do it yourself? If something is dead out of the box you can always RMA it back!
Ask a friend of yours who runs a restaurant. Food cost is always in the 25% range (more likely 30%). Based on that thought then the 230 wholesale becomes $920.00! Yikes! $320 seems reasonable to a degree.
What percentage were you expecting for a mark up?
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The flash was created for models that may have been phased out, and I have not checked which models have this option. You can check with your vendor to see which ones they carry.
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I am sorry that you have reached a stage that you feel that your input is not valued.
What brought you here to the forum? What compelled you to help others? When was the enlightenment where you felt that your contributions were not helpful?
I understand how you feel when you provide guidance to someone, and they continue down a path of their own choosing.
Those who choose to help will continue do so.
There are those who remember the "early years", and they want to "give back". There are those who want to help because they remember their own frustrations, or they want to "tip a hat" to the one that guided them through a mine field, and they want to pass on the "appreciation".
Some do it because they are at a learning stage, and nothing makes the info stick better then repetition. Helping others makes the technology become known like the back of your hand.
There are some who do not know about CCTV, but they see a post with the exact problem they were having, and they feel compelled to jump in.
There are those who come to the forum as a means to increase their business, and soon find out that participating does not increase the bottom line, and soon get frustrated when a poster does not take the advice, or follow instructions down to the letter. They feel as if they are wasting their own time because they are not getting a return on the investment of time spent of the forum.
There are some who have been here a long time, and see the same issue over, and over, and over, and it just beats you down, and you get frustrated, and you just want to "give up"!
There are those who have not been around in a while, and then they come back to the forum helping posters, and then fade in to the background again till another time.
There are those who help that we would describe as "hot shots". They just want to "be the man"! They want to feel important, or they want to be the center of attention. Once in a while one will come along that is so conceited that we all get a good laugh!
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I would want to know if the external power supply was putting out the correct voltage and tested under load, and then I would check the internal power supply for the correct voltages.
I am thinking that you have a power supply problem, or your hard drive is about to go, and it is sucking up all of the power causing these odd issues.
I truely do not know what is wrong with your unit, but it needs to be benched at a repair place.
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I was unaware that you would be using the PIR to control PTZ position.
Using PIRs will be a bad choice in general.
I only say this because my belief is you have no "control" over the territory that you are watching. You say street corner, and I am thinking of an open area where people are allowed to travel, and not a security zone where only "authorized personnel" are allowed.
Question:
Will the PTZ be controlled by different PIR? In other words if there is alot of "traffic" in mutiple zones will the PTZ be watching a "tennis game" going back, and forth?
I can see why you have to use PIR as you do not "own" the street corner, and therfore you cannot install beam device on this location, and run wire back to your property.
In regards to the high crime area I would want to know if you have iron bars on the windows, or if you plan on installing bars on your windows.
I would want to look at the "whole" picture. I would use the iron bars, and thorny shrubbery to force a person to walk in a direction that I create. In other words a sidewald with thorny bushes on either side forces them down the sidewalk. What a perfect place for a "man trap" and a good facial shot, and this would be a great place to put a camera.
Why are you interested in watching property that is not yours? I cannot understand the extra expense? I can see recording this area as an approach point. I would not use a PTZ on this area. I would use a 220X zoom camera. A PTZ would be great if you did remote view.
The last post sounded more of a "professional" surveillance system rather then a simple home solution.
You need to think about high crime. You need to think about cutting the power to get to the building without an alarm.
You need to think of serious battery back up, or solar power, or your own battery bank, and an inverter.
Will your system be monitored by an alarm monitoring company for police dispatch?
Will you be hiring security services to respond (rental cops with yellow lights rather then red, and blue) to an alert.
I would want to look at this for the big picture also.
What kind of "mean" shubbery can you plant to deter them from coming on your property, and make them go to a property that is much easier to get in to?
Shrubbery is prettier then concertina wire!
Can you install a KOI pond? It creates a water barrier, or a way to redirect a person to a camera.
What do you think?
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Set up your dvr so that when you put a wire across the contacts on the back of you DVR then when you remove the wire (an open circuit) it will trigger the recording.
Why?
If they cut the wire then you have an open circuit, and you have a DVR trigger to record even if they get around the motion detector.
Motions detectors:
There are too many variables and you should seek a professional.
Are you using PIRs inside, or outside? If you use them outside then be prepared to have false positives, such as wild animals triggering the DVR. If you have the detectors under a covered area then you mitigate movement from trees, and birds on the wire (this is assuming you have a long throw PIR).
Question:
How far out do you want to detect motion with the PIR?
Perhaps it may be better to use a photo beams.
http://www.optexamerica.com/productpage.aspx?l1=2&l2=7&id=6
The advantage is that you have less false triggers. If an animal were to walk through it may be tall enough to trigger the lower beam but not large enough to trigger the upper beam. If a person walks through then they will trigger the upper, and lower beams, and you will not get a trigger off of every animal, or moving tree limb, and such.
In regards to motion detectors:
There are long throw detectors, but they have a narrow path. There are wide beam motion detectors, but they do not reach out very far. You will need to know the distance that you are working with, and you need to select the perfect detector to match your environment.
There are battery operated motion detectors where "security is NOT of the essence". These battery operated detectors can be placed anywhere with hook and loop (velcro), or can be mounted with screws, or you can use silicone sealant to mount them in a unique way.
There are also motion detectors that have x10 (communication over the power line) that can trigger many devices at once. You can trigger your DVR, outdoor lighting, and anything else that you may need. You can place a receiver in to an electrical outlet, and it can receive signals from the motion detector, and then send "an alert" over the power line. You can have the alert received in the room where the DVR is located to trigger recording, and you can replace a light switch with an X10 light switch, and this will allow the outdoor lights to come on with the "alert".
X10 has a reputation for "not working", and this is false. This is based on poor design by installers. I have been on many sites to replace X10 with another technology, and I show them the problem, and how to correct the problem, and then make the system work like it is supposed too work.
There are devices that solve multi branch power line communication problems, and there are filters to remove noise from the electrical system, and some other "pro installer" tricks of the trade that I will keep to myself.
What do you want your system to do?
Is this a residential system, or a commmercial system?
Is security of the essence?
How much are you protecting? Spend about 10% of that value as a baseline, and spend more when you elevate the threat level.
If you are spending less then 10% of the total value then you have nothing to protect, or you are in the hobbyist level, and your threat level is very low.
If you are on a budget then think of the big picture down the road.
If you plan it right, and you plan a good "infrastructure" then you can put in a backbone system, and just a small investment will get you going, and you can add to your system as you need.
I have seen where people spend the least amount of money, but later when they up the performance level of the system they actually have to replace the everything, and start all over again! Not a good investment to begin with!
Think smart, and plan everything out. Make a silly wish list, and dream of what you may want it to do. Now get into a system that will allow you to be flexible.
If you buy the cheapest alarm panel, and later you need to add more devices then it would be great to add wireless motion detectors, and window contacts, but if the panel was so cheap that it did not have the wireless communication as part of the system then you saved money, but then again you wasted it. You may as well buy a panel that has mutli zone add on, wireless communication, and X10 (or related technology), and other options. You can wire a front door, and a back door, and have only one motion detector, but when you go to upgrade you are good to go, and you can create the perfect system.
All I am trying to say is "do not box yourself in" based on a small budget. You may spend a small amount more then you would prefer, but then you save more money down the road!
What do you think?
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My favorite youtube channel!
Hey Scruit! Did you flick this guy off?
http://www.youtube.com/user/Scruit#p/u/21/3PvDUYgE13Q
A bad day!
http://www.youtube.com/user/Scruit#p/u/7/P36tqUMxMic
Mr cool as ice!
http://www.youtube.com/user/Scruit#p/u/107/ZwcKZ2yLllc
The video that started it all!!!!!!!
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It is hardware based. Both local, and remote are going through the same chip.
There are models with remote view options where they do not interfer with each other.
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PS.
Put some dust bunnies on that power supply! It is too clean, and it stands out!
LOL!
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I had forgotten about the setup that you have.
I sure hope the pics
of the crew were of opposite sex!
You might want to wipe off your table top before you start work!
Have you ever caught anyone peeing in your office potted plant?
The office mailboys had better be on red alert!
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What are the cameras mounted to? Is this a metal warehouse style building?
Are you running between two different buildings, such as the DVR in one building, and the camera in another building?