3RDIGLBL 0 Posted April 21, 2009 I've dealt with Extreme CCTV cams, Panasonic, Arm and various unmarked cams. I'm not trying to find alternatives to an all Pelco solution that a customer has received a quote on from someone else. I know there are very good alternatives out there but not with a few caviats that make me shy away. I've looked at Nuvico, Panasonic and even Ganz. The cameras I'm looking to find alternatives to are the IS90-CHV9 and the IS111-DNV9 as well as a DVR DVR5108DVD-500. I'm concerned with the cameras. These cameras appear to have WDR functions as well as high res and Day/Night functions. Prices are OK for them but I am not a Pelco fan. I looked at Panasonic and the prices are higher although I do love those SDIII cams! The problem I found is difference in the dome appearance from a 484 dome to a 284 dome. I don't want the different domes outside appearance to be so obvious. SO.....I looked at Nuvico and honestly could not really find what I wanted there. I then looked at Ganz which bang for the buck appears to be a decent camera but I could not find a good Day/Night camera that also has WDR plus I'm not sure about there WDR performance. I'm back at the drawing board. I guess I could look into Sony, Samsung or even Toshiba but I've had bad experience with Toshiba cams in the past. Basically....sum it up. Looking for a MFG that has different model domes which look the same on the exterior. It's for a health center and some locations are bright due to windows and some have no natural light at all. This potential project has 5 locations so they want all remote connectivity. Pelco not the only cat in town and I know there are lower cost alternatives with probably better quality. Thoughts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RickA 0 Posted April 21, 2009 Have you looked at ours? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3RDIGLBL 0 Posted April 21, 2009 RickA. Ya I took a look at what you had to offer. I don't see what I am looking for on this install. Thanks for your suggestion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
survtech 0 Posted April 21, 2009 Ganz makes pretty good cameras. We use them in some applications. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3RDIGLBL 0 Posted April 21, 2009 Ganz makes pretty good cameras. We use them in some applications. survtech, great maybe you can give me some idea of how good they are. Have you used there 5000 series domes? Wondering how good the WDR is. How about a camera that is true D/N and WDR? I did not see one on there site. Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zmxtech 0 Posted April 22, 2009 I second GANZ, but then I would be installing IP cameras not analog ! z Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
survtech 0 Posted April 22, 2009 We use the 5000 series domes in many areas of the casino for overviews and other non-critical and semi-critical applications. We do like the fact that they use CS mount lenses so we can swap them out if the lens doesn't cover the area of interest. And they use Computar lenses - one of the best. We often just substitute a manual iris lens for the included auto iris one because our lighting doesn't vary over time. Unfortunately, the lack of a defeatable AGC makes them unacceptable for critical applications like table games and slot machine reels. We seldom care about day/night because that is not a problem inside the casino. The 5000 series is not WDR - that is the 4000 series. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3RDIGLBL 0 Posted April 22, 2009 Thanks Guys. Have you tried the 4000 series WDR cameras? How do they compare to the, IMO, number one Panasonic SDIII CP484? This customer wants to have a camera in the waiting room that has windows nearby and by a loading dock with a large garage door. I'm pretty sure I could beat Pelco priced equipment with a Ganz solution but I have not really used the Ganz so this is sort of an experiment at the same time. Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
survtech 0 Posted April 22, 2009 Sorry, haven't used them. We don't have a lot of need for WDR. Still, we did an experiment a few years ago with a few WDR cameras; trying to ID faces in an extreme backlight situation. Unfortunately, none of them provided acceptable results. The best images were from a Dallmeier DF3000AS-DN Ultra Wide Dynamic Range camera, but they are very expensive and we still had trouble with dark-skinned individuals. Second best was the Panasonic WV-CP484. The rest were totally useless. We did not try a Ganz because they didn't make a WDR box camera at the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dopalgangr 0 Posted April 22, 2009 Have you checked the classifieds on here? I have bought several cameras from Jack and have had no issues. I dont know if he has any that will suit your needs but its worth a look. http://www.cctvforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=14366 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hardwired 0 Posted April 29, 2009 Had pretty good luck with DeView cameras, they use the Pixim chipset on their WDR cam, 3 axis gimbal, test monitor output, and the different cam modules all interchange into the same housing. BTW, I'd be concerned about the choice of DVR, too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LEARNINGCCTV 0 Posted May 1, 2009 I have used a number of Ganz Cameras and they are very solid. I also think they have great support and I have actually been up to thier facility a few times and went through some training. YOu should call them and tell them about your application. I am sure they would invite you over to thier office and show you the WDR cameras up close! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kazukiman 0 Posted May 5, 2009 Sony makes pretty good cameras. We use them in some applications. Trouble is price Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
