CCTV cameras are fun on halloween too!

[shockwave199 0]

Who says cctv has to be serious and no fun? This is my first halloween with my system in place and my cameras were a nice addition to the fun! Enjoy this short vid of some scares caught on my cameras.

 

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Dan

[rory 0]

The non stop sounds of explosions for days/nights leading up to Halloween were really annoying. Here the punks just would not give it a rest. thing is never know if its a gun or fireworks and although its in the distance its still like it is right next door. Now its finally quietened down. Trick or treat kind of doesn't exist here, unless you count the ghetto parents driving their kids into the near decent areas to go around knocking on peoples doors for free candy .. luckily I live in an area where people cant just park and walk around .. plus I got my welcome mat out and its called a machete! In other words the trick is how does one make it into my yard and out in one piece

[rory 0]

oh yeah .. what that in the can that keeps popping up??

i need one of them year round, could use the guy in the mask also maybe have him hide out in the jungle

[ljarrald 0]

is it legal to show those kids faces on youtube?

and what mic are you using?

[shockwave199 0]

The popup in the can is an animated prop- one of my favorites. The mic is a cheap cctv mic from ebay- under ten bucks. Believe it or not, the mic is in a second floor back bedroom and it picks up all that from down the hall, down stairs, all the way to the front door and beyond. Truly an amazing mic.

[ljarrald 0]

The popup in the can is an animated prop- one of my favorites. The mic is a cheap cctv mic from ebay- under ten bucks. Believe it or not, the mic is in a second floor back bedroom and it picks up all that from down the hall, down stairs, all the way to the front door and beyond. Truly an amazing mic.

 

is it a mic like this by any chance? (top right)

 

and what about the legality of putting those kids on YT?

[ljarrald 0]

and what about the legality of putting those kids on YT?

If they are in public, whats the question?

 

so if i go out to town and take 20 pictures of different children and put them on the internet and they get seen by paedophiles and end up on a child porn website, and then they get traced back to me. i will face no legal action?

[ljarrald 0]

oh, hrmm :/

i thought it was illegal, maybe the laws are different on the sun than they are in the UK

[ljarrald 0]

oh, hrmm :/

i thought it was illegal, maybe the laws are different on the sun than they are in the UK

Doubtful, unless you live in North Korea.

Taking photos in public is not against the law in free societies.

Don't want your photo taken - stay home.Simple as that.

I have no expectation of privacy as soon as I walk out my door.

Neither should anyone else.

 

i disagree. of course we should expect a level of privacy outside of our homes.

i'm sorry but if i am going about my daily buisness and someone shoves a camera in my face, takes a picture (without my consent) and does not delete it when asked, i will take the camera off him and delete it. if i cant do that i will ask the police to do it. however if i am on a protest and a journalist takes a wide shot of everyone, that is different. just like if someone takes a picture of their girlfriend or child and i happen to be in the background.

[Sawbones 0]

Hah! That's good stuff!

[bike_rider 0]

oh, hrmm :/

i thought it was illegal, maybe the laws are different on the sun than they are in the UK

Doubtful, unless you live in North Korea.

Taking photos in public is not against the law in free societies.

Don't want your photo taken - stay home.Simple as that.

I have no expectation of privacy as soon as I walk out my door.

Neither should anyone else.

 

i disagree. of course we should expect a level of privacy outside of our homes.

i'm sorry but if i am going about my daily buisness and someone shoves a camera in my face, takes a picture (without my consent) and does not delete it when asked, i will take the camera off him and delete it. if i cant do that i will ask the police to do it. however if i am on a protest and a journalist takes a wide shot of everyone, that is different. just like if someone takes a picture of their girlfriend or child and i happen to be in the background.

 

You may expect privacy, but the law disagrees with you. If you are in public, a person can take your photo and use it for non-commercial purposes. Your consent is not needed. If you take the camera from somebody, that's theft and possibly assault.

[ljarrald 0]

 

You may expect privacy, but the law disagrees with you. If you are in public, a person can take your photo and use it for non-commercial purposes. Your consent is not needed. If you take the camera from somebody, that's theft and possibly assault.

 

well people should be polite and ask first if they are going to take a picture OF me. there must be a law that says if a picture has been taken OF me and i ask for it to be erased, it has to be.

[shockwave199 0]

I think you're being uptight and over the top dude. It's a fun holiday for the kids, where I gave them tons of treats and a few scares. I also mentioned to many of them to look for the YT vid and enjoy it, to which they were thrilled to hear. You're a teenager if I remember correctly- you should dial back the paranoia. You have a LOT of years to get your arse kicked into paranoia. Enjoy life while you're young instead of filling it with cameras at every corner. And from looking at your setup a bit, you have some public surveillance issues. You're doing the very thing you're against. But really, this was just a fun vid and a fun way of enjoying all the hard work setting up a system.

 

Dan

[bike_rider 0]

 

You may expect privacy, but the law disagrees with you. If you are in public, a person can take your photo and use it for non-commercial purposes. Your consent is not needed. If you take the camera from somebody, that's theft and possibly assault.

 

well people should be polite and ask first if they are going to take a picture OF me. there must be a law that says if a picture has been taken OF me and i ask for it to be erased, it has to be.

 

I absolutely agree with you that there is a question of being polite and decent. However, there is no law that says that they have to comply.

[ljarrald 0]

I think you're being uptight and over the top dude. It's a fun holiday for the kids, where I gave them tons of treats and a few scares. I also mentioned to many of them to look for the YT vid and enjoy it, to which they were thrilled to hear. You're a teenager if I remember correctly- you should dial back the paranoia. You have a LOT of years to get your arse kicked into paranoia. Enjoy life while you're young instead of filling it with cameras at every corner. And from looking at your setup a bit, you have some public surveillance issues. You're doing the very thing you're against. But really, this was just a fun vid and a fun way of enjoying all the hard work setting up a system.

 

Dan

 

i have every right to be paranoid actually. i was just asking a question. if you tell them what you are going to do with the footage and they agree it is fine, and i am sure if you told them and they said we do not want to be on youtube, you would not of put them on youtube. i was also curious about the legality of minors as i

would of thought there would be different privacy laws.

 

i am not saying there was anything wrong with your video/system. i was just questioning it out of intrest.

 

i am enjoying my young life. cctv, intruder, fire etc systems are a hobby and something i enjoy doing. as is going out with my friends. if by 'enjoy your life while you're young' you mean do what everyone else does which is go out on the street, drug myself up with anything and everything available and cause a nusense then no, or maybe you mean go out and mug people and break into houses, and kick the sh*t out of innocent people and steal their phone... nope, i'd rather not do that either.

i am happy with my life, i go out at the weekends and have a good time, go to parties and other things which i probably shouldn't say every now and again and i have good friends.

 

what do you mean by "you have some public surveillance issues"? i have no problem with cctv, or cctv on a lamp post run by a local resident. if i was old enough i would setup a neighbourhood watch, ask anyone if they want cctv and install it for the people who do charging them ONLY device cost. idea being that everyone has the same make of DVR/NVR so each house can be on the same remote viewing software, and each home owner can log into anyones cctv (with permission and prior notice of course) and watch to make sure there are no crimes being committed on the street. it is when i have no idea who is at the other end of the cameras but i know it is someone who has access to hundreds of cameras and can track me if he/she wishes or who can abuse their power...

 

i have good reasons for installing cctv.

 

i appreciate the video was a fun way of enjoying all the hard work setting up the system which is why i never said i disliked the video. i actually quite enjoyed it, it put a smile on my face bringing back memories of when i used to go trick or treating.

[tomcctv 189]

i can see two of my customers in that picture Deans gate manchester ??

[ljarrald 0]

what do you mean by "you have some public surveillance issues"?

You are being Hypocritical while doing the same thing you are saying you dont want done to you.

 

oh yeah sorry, i forgot i work for the government.

[ljarrald 0]

 

i disagree. of course we should expect a level of privacy outside of our homes.

i'm sorry but if i am going about my daily buisness and someone shoves a camera in my face, takes a picture (without my consent) and does not delete it when asked, i will take the camera off him and delete it. if i cant do that i will ask the police to do it. however if i am on a protest and a journalist takes a wide shot of everyone, that is different. just like if someone takes a picture of their girlfriend or child and i happen to be in the background.

There isnt a dam thing you can do about it, and the cops cant do anything either, it is NOT against the law.

 

YOU ARE OUTSIDE IN PUBLIC, you have no privacy out there.

 

right, so if i don't want to take the risk of someone shoving a camera in my face and putting it all around the world, i must not go outside?

 

yes... iknow that is extremely unlikely to happen, i am just using it as an example.

[jdowning 0]

 

You may expect privacy, but the law disagrees with you. If you are in public, a person can take your photo and use it for non-commercial purposes. Your consent is not needed. If you take the camera from somebody, that's theft and possibly assault.

 

well people should be polite and ask first if they are going to take a picture OF me. there must be a law that says if a picture has been taken OF me and i ask for it to be erased, it has to be.

 

You need to stop being so paranoid. He posted a thread up about a video that he created scaring children whilst using CCTV. He didn't ask for any questions to be posted on the legality of the footage taken nor should you be interested in that, that's his decision.

 

I highly doubt that a paedophile will choose a CCTV forum to choose their next victims and can highly doubt these individuals can be traced back.

 

It seems to me that the new people in the world are all interested in privacy & laws - take a step back and just enjoy something without getting knit-picky over the regulations and what's in the book. Society was laid back 20+ years ago but now we're being bombarded with 'data protection' and all this crap.

 

Thanks for the video by the way!

[ljarrald 0]

 

You may expect privacy, but the law disagrees with you. If you are in public, a person can take your photo and use it for non-commercial purposes. Your consent is not needed. If you take the camera from somebody, that's theft and possibly assault.

 

well people should be polite and ask first if they are going to take a picture OF me. there must be a law that says if a picture has been taken OF me and i ask for it to be erased, it has to be.

 

You need to stop being so paranoid. He posted a thread up about a video that he created scaring children whilst using CCTV. He didn't ask for any questions to be posted on the legality of the footage taken nor should you be interested in that, that's his decision.

 

I highly doubt that a paedophile will choose a CCTV forum to choose their next victims and can highly doubt these individuals can be traced back.

 

It seems to me that the new people in the world are all interested in privacy & laws - take a step back and just enjoy something without getting knit-picky over the regulations and what's in the book. Society was laid back 20+ years ago but now we're being bombarded with 'data protection' and all this crap.

 

Thanks for the video by the way!

 

have a go at re reading all of my posts in this thread...

[Numb-nuts 1]

So far as I am aware, there is no law in the UK against recording in public with or without permission. You may not film on private property without permission very often.

If that statement is wrong please tell me under which legislation.

 

 

If what you said was right, then YouTube would have to ask you for the written permission of everyone in the video before they could allow you to post it. That just wouldn't work.

 

However, you cannot post something that invades someone's privacy by filming on private property or in a place where there is a reasonable expectation of privacy such as a public toilet or a private shop changing room.

[ljarrald 0]

So far as I am aware, there is no law in the UK against recording in public with or without permission. You may not film on private property without permission very often.

If that statement is wrong please tell me under which legislation.

 

 

If what you said was right, then YouTube would have to ask you for the written permission of everyone in the video before they could allow you to post it. That just wouldn't work.

 

However, you cannot post something that invades someone's privacy by filming on private property or in a place where there is a reasonable expectation of privacy such as a public toilet or a private shop changing room.

 

no, i can't bare to watch that. i tried but i cant. however i have seen videos by the same guys (the love police) so know what the video is about. i understand why these laws exist i just think that if someone shoves a camera in your face and takes a picture *OF* me they should need my permission. my face is private property, no?

however if i am walking behind someone who is having their picture taken and get in shot, or i am protesting and a picture is taken of the protesters and it gets my face in, that is completely different and i am fine with that.

 

i am not asking for any laws to be changed. just voicing my opinion. i actually think these love police guys are doing a good thing (in general, some of the stuff they do is immature, rude, offensive and down right stupid)

[Numb-nuts 1]

There are just too many possibilities for legislation to cover all contingencies, therefore unless you place a complete ban on all camcorders and cameras you cannot stop recording of images.

 

While it remains legal to record video in public, you cannot use it to harass someone by following them about with a CCTV as that would be a breach of their civil rights (In a public place) and would be covered under harassment legislation. Unless you could show you had a reasonable suspicion.

 

So while it remains legal to record anywhere there are other legislations that might affect the way you record and where you can record, in other words the way you use the recording device.

 

I think that the SIA license for CCTV operators deals with scheme objectives and that operatives must consider the scheme objectives when operating the equipment. So it would be a breach of the scheme objectives to say follow only women in mini skirts walking when the objective is to observe suspicious activity within a retail shop.

I would imagine that would be seen as a breach and considered as misconduct.

 

There are SIA licenced peopleon the forum that may be able to shed more light on this subject which I haven't any formal knowledge of.

 

PS If you took someone's camera away from them to remove an image of you, you could be getting into the ralms of assault and criminal damage. Not a good idea.

[Birdman Adam 0]

There is a reason it is called "public". You have little right to privacy in public!

 

Where did you get those little ghosts that move about at the front of your house?? I need some for next year!!

 

Your whole setup is so neat!

[shockwave199 0]

Thanks! This is what the place looks like from a good digi camera, not cctv! The ghosts are widely available and are called hovering ghost- a favorite of mine too.