Best DVR Help me Please

[jetspeedz 0]

Here are my requirements:

 

4 channels

30fps at least on highest D1 resolution 700x all at one

Have a Blackberry App for remote viewing (not a browser url link)

email notifications

motion detection

(have my own HDD)

 

I have looked at about a million different brands and I just don't know which to buy. Monoprice has a great little unit but does not have blackberry support.

 

Please recommend some units which will last a Long time and will not break down.

[tomcctv 187]

4 channels

30fps at least on highest D1 resolution

 

 

15fps is all you need you cant see the differance 15 or 30.

 

 

 

the mono. you have listed is not as good as you think it is. 30fps is ALL 4 so 7.5 fps is your max per camera

 

Recording speed: 30fps @ 720x480, 60fps @ 720x240, 120fps @ 360x240

 

 

the little aver will do everything you need http://www.averusa.com/surveillance/products/hybrid-dvrs/eh1004h.asp

 

 

software and demo for you to try. http://www.averdigi.com/Support/DownloadDetail.aspx?id=270

[rory 0]

dahua (qvis) ...

[jetspeedz 0]

Thanks for the response guys that is why i came on here. Don't know a whole lot but just enough to get buy on this stuff i guess.

 

I'll look into both systems now

[jetspeedz 0]

4 channels

30fps at least on highest D1 resolution

 

 

15fps is all you need you cant see the differance 15 or 30.

 

 

 

the mono. you have listed is not as good as you think it is. 30fps is ALL 4 so 7.5 fps is your max per camera

 

Recording speed: 30fps @ 720x480, 60fps @ 720x240, 120fps @ 360x240

 

 

the little aver will do everything you need http://www.averusa.com/surveillance/products/hybrid-dvrs/eh1004h.asp

 

 

software and demo for you to try. http://www.averdigi.com/Support/DownloadDetail.aspx?id=270

 

So I contacted Aver and what a great system with the exception of a few critical key items even the tech agreed with me.

 

1. You can not remotely administer the system. You will still need to have a monitor hooked up to the DVR for camera settings, network administration and user accounts.

 

2. The BB software is only for the Storm (This is not a deal breaker the first one is though)

 

I really like this system and even the tech who was very knowledgeable (Mark) agreed with me the software limitation is inconvenient and they are going to change it but no ETA. I can not have a DVR which requires a monitor on it all the time. Initial config is not a problem but after that i need to be able to use the PC software to change settings.

 

Any other suggestions is appreciated.

[jetspeedz 0]

dahua (qvis) ...

 

Started looking at the Qvis Appollo HD Pro 4 and it is basically the same thing as the monoprice unit with only

 

7fps per channel per the specs or am i missing something?

 

http://www.nellyssurplus.com/servlet/the-1559/Qvis-Apollo-HD-4/Detail

[tomcctv 187]

I can not have a DVR which requires a monitor on it all the time. Initial config is not a problem but after that i need to be able to use the PC software to change settings.

 

 

 

call mark back and ask him to put someone else on who has been there longer. you dont need the monitor on or connected all the time. and yes you can control the dvr remote. via remote viewer or CM3000 or remote admin software.

 

 

did you try the BB demo ?

[jetspeedz 0]

I have not tried the software but will when i get out of work later today.

 

Mark never mentioned the monitor has to be on it all the time. My fault i should be more clear. The monitor needs to be on it according to him when you want to make : Network changes, user account changes, or camera settings.

 

The remote software will allow you to playback and view the cameras but not do much of the back door administrative stuff.

 

Can you please confirm.

[tomcctv 187]

The remote software will allow you to playback and view the cameras but not do much of the back door administrative stuff.

 

 

 

 

hi. you have the same screen when viewing remote as you do on the system its self. you can do everything you can as if at the dvr or airport the other side of the world you just need the internet. i will PM you the manual.

[jetspeedz 0]

I just asked mark to look at this conversation

[jetspeedz 0]

I can't post a screen shot online b/c all the websites which host them are blocked but mark just sent me multiple screen shots which are from the remote software and there are boxes which are grayed out. Maybe these links might work

 

http://cw8i.providesupport.com/file-transfer/download/9OoHqjVUcj3GilfP/QWqDF607ccJFPyG8BN32z80hDIlDiW1J/323031312D31322D30375F31332D35362D32312E6A7067/2011-12-07_13-56-21.jpg

 

 

http://cw8i.providesupport.com/file-transfer/download/9OoHqjVUcj3GilfP/hqbEYQYb703ux9uFGFqWDp1WxVF0HVfU/323031312D31322D30375F31332D35362D35382E6A7067/2011-12-07_13-56-58.jpg

 

http://cw8i.providesupport.com/file-transfer/download/9OoHqjVUcj3GilfP/lTUJ3a9whyWl9zy582aN5WC01LR0BcBX/323031312D31322D30375F31332D35372D31322E6A7067/2011-12-07_13-57-12.jpg

 

 

Can you confirm you are seeing the same thing?

[tomcctv 187]

I can't post a screen shot online b/c all the websites which host them are blocked but mark just sent me multiple screen shots which are from the remote software and there are boxes which are grayed out. Maybe these links might work

 

http://cw8i.providesupport.com/file-transfer/download/9OoHqjVUcj3GilfP/QWqDF607ccJFPyG8BN32z80hDIlDiW1J/323031312D31322D30375F31332D35362D32312E6A7067/2011-12-07_13-56-21.jpg

 

 

http://cw8i.providesupport.com/file-transfer/download/9OoHqjVUcj3GilfP/hqbEYQYb703ux9uFGFqWDp1WxVF0HVfU/323031312D31322D30375F31332D35362D35382E6A7067/2011-12-07_13-56-58.jpg

 

http://cw8i.providesupport.com/file-transfer/download/9OoHqjVUcj3GilfP/lTUJ3a9whyWl9zy582aN5WC01LR0BcBX/323031312D31322D30375F31332D35372D31322E6A7067/2011-12-07_13-57-12.jpg

 

 

Can you confirm you are seeing the same thing?

 

 

 

hi. they are webviwer snaps and not remote viwer software. all avers have the same screen on the system or away from the system looks like this

 

 

[jetspeedz 0]

Interesting, so is the remote admin part of the DVR bundle or does it cost additional for the software?

 

Thanks

[rory 0]

dahua (qvis) ...

 

Started looking at the Qvis Appollo HD Pro 4 and it is basically the same thing as the monoprice unit with only

 

7fps per channel per the specs or am i missing something?

 

http://www.nellyssurplus.com/servlet/the-1559/Qvis-Apollo-HD-4/Detail

 

You can buy their DVRs in any configuration, 4-16 channels with options of 7fps D1 (704x480) record each channel or 30fps D1 (704x480) record each channel, 32 channel at 7fps D1 record all channels - all the DVRs have real time display. 7fps is fine for most applications. They have units that hold up to 8 internal Drives for 16TB, and some with eSata for 12TB external.

[tomcctv 187]

Interesting, so is the remote admin part of the DVR bundle or does it cost additional for the software?

 

Thanks

 

 

all 4 types of software are free ...... you dont need to carry any disks around as everything is downloaded from the dvr

 

 

even internet setup is easy just click on link select DVR follow settings make password and your done free ddns

http://ddns.avers.com.tw/

[jetspeedz 0]

fantastic thanks a lot.

 

Now waiting to see results of blackberry

[SEANHAWG 1]

Hi,

 

Qvis does have a full D1 unit as a 4 channel, however we do not carry it because for a couple hundred bucks more you can get the 16 channel unit. However, we can get it for you if you need it.

 

One question though is, do you really need full D1 for a 4 channel DVR? Most of the time 7 FPS will be just fine. Unless you have the specific need for full D1, you can go with the regular Apollo HD and save hundreds of dollars and still get the same video quality, just at a lesser frame rate.

 

As far as comparing to monoprices, I have never used their DVR's so I cant attest to how they are, but just because two DVR's have the same exact specs does not mean they have the same quality. Things you have to look for are features, quality of the GUI, and video recording compression.

 

As far as the Aver's go, we carry them as well but just arent listed on our website. They are great little boogers if you plan on upgrading to IP someday. But if you are just sticking to analog, I would choose the Qvis.

[jetspeedz 0]

Hi,

 

Qvis does have a full D1 unit as a 4 channel, however we do not carry it because for a couple hundred bucks more you can get the 16 channel unit. However, we can get it for you if you need it.

 

One question though is, do you really need full D1 for a 4 channel DVR? Most of the time 7 FPS will be just fine. Unless you have the specific need for full D1, you can go with the regular Apollo HD and save hundreds of dollars and still get the same video quality, just at a lesser frame rate.

 

As far as comparing to monoprices, I have never used their DVR's so I cant attest to how they are, but just because two DVR's have the same exact specs does not mean they have the same quality. Things you have to look for are features, quality of the GUI, and video recording compression.

 

As far as the Aver's go, we carry them as well but just arent listed on our website. They are great little boogers if you plan on upgrading to IP someday. But if you are just sticking to analog, I would choose the Qvis.

 

 

Thanks for the response, I would like quality recording and basing it off some older cameras i had see i want more then 7fps. 15fps I dont mind at each channel. What is the price of the unit that will do the higher fps for a 4 channel and what Blackberry support is offered if any?

[jetspeedz 0]

interesting. So what is the price of a comparable model to the Aver EH1004H ?

[SEANHAWG 1]

The Aver is a hybrid, the Qvis is an analog only. 2 different animals.

[jetspeedz 0]

Understood but I was planning on only using Analog cameras anyway. I'm more interested in the specs and features.

[jetspeedz 0]

I can't post a screen shot online b/c all the websites which host them are blocked but mark just sent me multiple screen shots which are from the remote software and there are boxes which are grayed out. Maybe these links might work

 

http://cw8i.providesupport.com/file-transfer/download/9OoHqjVUcj3GilfP/QWqDF607ccJFPyG8BN32z80hDIlDiW1J/323031312D31322D30375F31332D35362D32312E6A7067/2011-12-07_13-56-21.jpg

 

 

http://cw8i.providesupport.com/file-transfer/download/9OoHqjVUcj3GilfP/hqbEYQYb703ux9uFGFqWDp1WxVF0HVfU/323031312D31322D30375F31332D35362D35382E6A7067/2011-12-07_13-56-58.jpg

 

http://cw8i.providesupport.com/file-transfer/download/9OoHqjVUcj3GilfP/lTUJ3a9whyWl9zy582aN5WC01LR0BcBX/323031312D31322D30375F31332D35372D31322E6A7067/2011-12-07_13-57-12.jpg

 

 

Can you confirm you are seeing the same thing?

 

 

 

hi. they are webviwer snaps and not remote viwer software. all avers have the same screen on the system or away from the system looks like this

 

 

 

 

Ok i contacted Mark and he actually was nice enough to let me view his desktop live over the net and show me what he basically told me from the start that Not all of the features are availalbe to change unless you are connected locally to the DVR via keyboard/mouse/monitor.

 

Can you please confirm as you see there are grayed out options in this screen and others but this is the only screen shot i had him take to clear up any confusion on my end.

 

http://cw10b.providesupport.com/file-transfer/download/GuBda75WQuTYVFE8/c1bNvZyA701Q2XTAsn9d6Rk5NiCNWkpp/323031312D31322D30375F31362D30362D35322E6A7067/2011-12-07_16-06-52.jpg

[rory 0]

Can you please confirm as you see there are grayed out options in this screen and others but this is the only screen shot i had him take to clear up any confusion on my end.

 

http://cw10b.providesupport.com/file-transfer/download/GuBda75WQuTYVFE8/c1bNvZyA701Q2XTAsn9d6Rk5NiCNWkpp/323031312D31322D30375F31362D30362D35322E6A7067/2011-12-07_16-06-52.jpg

 

I dont know that software but from the looks of it when you click Update it likely enables the options that are disabled so you can edit them, then probably click save to update it.

[jetspeedz 0]

No update actually updates the change you do make with the options which are not grayed out. He showed me that live

[rory 0]

Ok whoops my bad then