First Setup, Babies room setup and Mudulator & ip video

[smmcconn 0]

Just looking for a little direction for my home.

 

1. (Just Looking for the best of both worlds! Ip/recording and looking at it on my TV in any room in the house) Can I split the signal right after the camera and send one to my 3 Channel AV Modulator that pumps into my catv circuit and pump the other one into a 4 port IP network video server for CCTV then send it to my home server?

 

2. For the Babies Room, I had bought a 1/3 sony 12 IR 30' Color/BW but the Leds would glow red! OMG poor kid will be scared to death! Not all do this right? Oh and it would be too bright when the lights where off! I got this one on ebay, but I am not happy, any recomendations. (looking for one under $100)

 

Please and Thanks!

Shawn

[Thomas 0]

Why feed it into an encoder? All you're doing is adding cost. Just feed it in a capture card and software and store it on the file server. The cost of an ok encoder and ok software is more then the cost of the capture card and software.

[smmcconn 0]

We want to be able to turn the tv station in any room and see baby!

[rory 0]

1. (Just Looking for the best of both worlds! Ip/recording and looking at it on my TV in any room in the house) Can I split the signal right after the camera and send one to my 3 Channel AV Modulator that pumps into my catv circuit and pump the other one into a 4 port IP network video server for CCTV then send it to my home server?

 

A decent IP Server isnt cheap. Id just set up a PC for this and a card, and run the cables back to that, then there you goto the RF Modulator .. run a cable to where the Cable TV Signal comes into the home, and split it there. Best quality however would be a seperate video cable to each TV instead of a RF mod.

 

With the PC DVR, you will get higher quality and (depending on the card) faster recording and live view. You can still watch this on your network (or remotely) while not comprimising quality of the recording.

 

2. For the Babies Room, I had bought a 1/3 sony 12 IR 30' Color/BW but the Leds would glow red! OMG poor kid will be scared to death! Not all do this right? Oh and it would be too bright when the lights where off! I got this one on ebay, but I am not happy, any recomendations. (looking for one under $100)

 

First thats not a Sony Camera, they are OEM and they use Sony Chips is all

 

You will see a slight glow as the OEM cameras do not generaly see anything above 840nm .. 950nm for example, is invisible Infrared.

 

There are 3 types: 730/750nm, 830/850nm, 930/950nm (nano metres) - brightest to invisible.

 

The more invisible the IR the less IR is produced. The invisible type also require IR optimized cameras which are typically not found with OEM cameras. Brands such as Extreme CCTV make cameras specifically for this purpose, and are also optimized for Infrared Lighting, but they are very expensive. You can also find cameras from brands such as GE and Sanyo which will work up to 1100nm (with invisible IR), typically found in their Box or Dome models, and still require IR as an add on from another brand like Extreme.

 

So to end, basically if its a Bullet camera such as what you have, there will always be a slight glow, unless you buy a specific 900+nm Camera. Some big brands actually give the Spectrul Response (works with which nano metres) in their specs, but it is rare.

 

Rory

[smmcconn 0]

Thanks for the Good Info Rory! I have one question though are you spliting right before the DVR card?

 

Oh and as for the modulated signal not looking good, I'm using the following and it looks great!! (however I haven't split the signal yet for the pc/IP signal or maybe to the DVR card)

1. Channel Plus Notch filter Model# NF-469

2. Channel Plus Model 5435, 3 Channel AV Modulator

3. Channel Plus 2512 DC and IR Passing Splitter / Combiners

4. Channel Vision C-0332 1 In / 16 Out Amplified RF Splitter

5. X10 B&W Low light with ninja (for playing with)

 

thanks!

Shawn

 

[jisaac 0]

man you are doing alot of work to achieve something that in about 3 months you will probably think back and wonder why you did it this way.

Also you are doing alot of work to only on want to spend $100 off of ebay. And you got it off of ebay and your not happy?.?.?.?.?.? well that is going to happen. If you want something you are going to happy with then spend the money on something of quality from one of the many professionals who do sell surveillance equipment. There are many on this forum. You go with ebay and your buying from blo jo.

My suggestion is to keep it simple stay with a dvr and use the remote viewing from the dvr instead of the server.

And do not buy surveillance equipment from ebay and spend more than 100 in the baby room. If you have a night light in the room then just get a quality low light camera and you will enjoy the picture much more plus no red glow. ( i did the same thing about 2 years ago. My little girl was about 7 months and she would just stair at the red glow with a curious look. I eventually replaced it with a panasonic sdIII vp dome

WV-CW474AFTP ).

 

good luck

[smmcconn 0]

Thanks for the Eye Opener!! ahhhh the magic words "remote viewing from the dvr instead" I didn't know!!! When I see these cards I only see BNC inputs!! Tell me more about it, what is the output can I pump into my Modulator so I only have to switch channels on the TV (this is what I'm aiming for)?

 

All New questions if I can get it into my Modulator

1. DVR card and FPS?(cheap but good)

Note: My Server = AMD XP 3200 (2.2 GHZ) and 512 MB of Ram

2. Software?

3. I heard I can run everything over Cat5/Cat6 even power?

 

Thanks!

Shawn

[jisaac 0]

ok try this.

camera going into a 1 in 2 out video distributor/amplifier then have one of the 2 outputs from the dist/amp going into the dvr card. Then the second output from the dist/amp going to the video modulator. The reason that you need the dist/amp instead of a "T" splitter is not only is that normal not recommended. But on top of that you would going to have it run through the rg-6 cable which is aluminum shielded isntead of copper shielded. So those two things together would be a gamble at best.

Now yes you can run everything over cat 5/cat6. But let me clarify on that. There is two ways that you could be talking about.

#1 Poe (power over ethernet)

a feature of ip cameras where you can have power go through your switch/hub and power the camera.

#2 sending power over a pair of copper and having video sent back over a pair by way of video baluns. Yes you can do it. Dont send power and video on the same cable. You will be suseptible to ground loops or cross talk. Bellieve me from personal experience. Use two different cables. One power and one video.

[smmcconn 0]

I'd hate to say this but after all that you go me thinking about that 4 port RCA to IP server for 100 bucks again! But I would still need to split it to send to the encoder! Heck I Have a gigabit backbone in the house, and I just put in a computer next to the TV with Windows Media Center on it!

 

Good to know about the rj45!!

 

Thanks Jisaac!

Shawn

[CollinR 0]

I have a used 9 channel DVR that has looping outputs and a multiplexed output, It's also networkable. That would allow you to record and modulate without having to split the signals off. If you want it PM me, it's a KTL 80GB ~ 30fps definately not a show stopper but if you just want to view a multiplex have some recording and basic remote access it will do it.

 

 

 

If you plan on having media center PCs all over your home you caqn use the remote managment features of about any DVR. With a PC in each room you can start getting really crazy. Do you also use SageTV or BeyondTV? I asked because you bought some good modulators better then what CCTV needs anyway.