Forced to change from wired system by landlord

[quartz 0]

Hi peeps, I am UK based and being forced by my landlord to change from my wired cctv through a 2TB DVR with monitor that I keep on in the background and 7 cameras to a wireless system as he wants to do things to the property and my wires "are in the way" outisde, even though routed through the nearest vents to reduce damage to soffits. So I have been researching and looking for a wireless system and have seen many PTZ cameras that are solar powered, but not been able to find any that say they can connect with an NVR so my base unit is similair to what I already have and it is just the cameras in essence that are being changed.

I have obviously found partial wireless cameras, still need power going to them, but there must be a way of using one of the many ptz wireless solar powered cameras with an NVR. I can reduce the number of cameras using 2 PTZ cameras and 2 (or maybe 3) fixed, but all must be solar powered and wifi/IP enabled to connect directly to the NVR through my router I presume, can anyone advise who has done this as I have tried Hikivision, they can't help, Reolink, they can't help and have a couple of other companies I sent emails to and not heard back yet, iGeek was one I think. I do not want control through any of the Alexa or whatever devices, I just want a system I can use like before, with an app alerting me when out so i can monitor through my phone, and able to glance at the monitor and see all the cameras at once when at home and the system records 24/7 on an ssd in a stand alone device.

Thanks..

[tomcctv 187]

Hi there is no such thing as a good wireless solar ptz camera. 
yes you see 100s on Amazon and eBay and most are P2P China server run and most don’t allow connection to a nvr

what type of system are you using now analog or IP

[quartz 0]

3 hours ago, tomcctv said:

Hi there is no such thing as a good wireless solar ptz camera. 
yes you see 100s on Amazon and eBay and most are P2P China server run and most don’t allow connection to a nvr

what type of system are you using now analog or IP

Thanks for replying, this sucks then as I am between a rock and a hard place, I am using an analog wired system, I need to change to completely wireless and there must be a company that does them, or a way to get cameras to work with an nvr? I have to get another system up as someone tried to poison my dog and I don't want them trying again.

[tomcctv 187]

There are other ways 

but you have a cost of changing from dvr to nvr 

is there other places around your home to get power we’re it’s not in the way of building work

also 7 cameras with coax is a lot of cable …. Staying with analog (dvr) you can change cable to cat5 and run 3 cameras off 1 cable 

 

going nvr ….. you can use Ethernet over existing power adapters which does away with most cables 

but everything depends on your budget

[quartz 0]

22 hours ago, tomcctv said:

There are other ways 

but you have a cost of changing from dvr to nvr 

is there other places around your home to get power we’re it’s not in the way of building work

also 7 cameras with coax is a lot of cable …. Staying with analog (dvr) you can change cable to cat5 and run 3 cameras off 1 cable 

 

going nvr ….. you can use Ethernet over existing power adapters which does away with most cables 

but everything depends on your budget

It needs to be compltely wireless, after spending over £7k on vet bills the last 3 years, the cost is irrelevant, it has to be done, I cannot have any wires around the property, for data signal or power, I understand the security and stability of wired in one way or another, which is why I have the system I do, but sadly it has to go.

[tomcctv 187]

Ethernet over power is wireless 

 

it’s also everyone’s mistake that cameras have to be fitted to the house only… which is not the case

[quartz 0]

10 hours ago, tomcctv said:

Ethernet over power is wireless 

 

it’s also everyone’s mistake that cameras have to be fitted to the house only… which is not the case

I understand casmeras can be mounted on poles, in trees or wherever, but if it has a cable running to it for power, you need a source, what do you mean ethernet over power is wireless? Does it still have a power source connected to the power ring the nvr is connectyed to?

 

[tomcctv 187]

Ok with not knowing if you have power outside or knowing your budget you might be best just installing the reolink solar ptz with SDI card it’s around £150 each camera

 

 

[quartz 0]

11 hours ago, tomcctv said:

Ok with not knowing if you have power outside or knowing your budget you might be best just installing the reolink solar ptz with SDI card it’s around £150 each camera

 

 

Budget is irrelevant, I have one dog left and she is more important than worrying about a couple of grand on something I need to change to because of the idiot landlord who is not willing to budge on his stupid decision, especially when they aren't really in the way of what he wants to do and it is just an excuse from him for one thing or another. As for power outside, no there are no power outlets outside, if there were, any decent electrician would create a separate ring for them to isolate them from the house and would be useless to send data to anything on one of the rings in the house, which is why I asked you to explain why you suggested a cable hook up still with a wire to the camera, when I have already made clear it needs to be completely wireless. I appreciate you taking the time to post and chat about my issue, and apologise for sounding blunt, but I explained what I needed to do and why, I get that the chinese ones won't connect to an nvr, so I go back to my original question to a point, is there a system with completely wireless ptz cameras that can charge by solar, similair to the ones on amazon or ebay, as I have no storage for a car battery or the wires needed to run a system like that, something isolated would be ideal.

[tomcctv 187]

1 hour ago, quartz said:

if there were, any decent electrician would create a separate ring for them to isolate them from the house and would be useless to send data to anything on one of the rings in the house,

Why would you think seperate rings can’t communicate?  So long as all rings or spurs are on the same mains power there is no problem at all

 

ok I’ll try and explain ptz with solar and network

in the uk your not going to get enough solar power to run a ptz and charge up a leisure battery unless you think big 

your going to be better with fixed cameras as ptz will drain battery very quick …. As it’s always getting moved … and also run the network side at the same time

can you not get just one cat5 to outside of building ?

 

[quartz 0]

13 hours ago, tomcctv said:

Why would you think seperate rings can’t communicate?  So long as all rings or spurs are on the same mains power there is no problem at all

 

ok I’ll try and explain ptz with solar and network

in the uk your not going to get enough solar power to run a ptz and charge up a leisure battery unless you think big 

your going to be better with fixed cameras as ptz will drain battery very quick …. As it’s always getting moved … and also run the network side at the same time

can you not get just one cat5 to outside of building ?

 

I realise I have it the wrong way, but had difficulties getting a ring network to work on someone's house once, not done one since but was a relatively new house, about 5 years old and it was because they were isolated from each other and the outside circuit that had power to the garage, pool and garden, as this is over ethernet it is the wrong way round as I said. with pressure from landlord to get this sorted asap, a deaf dog and life, I got it mixed up. No he wants no wires outside. I also realised from the things I read on these chinese ones, that they sense all the time and don't record till they are activated, then only record a few seconds, so I get that the power isn't there to run a ptz from the small solar systems they use.

If I stick to a 7 fixed camera set up, can these do what I want and is there a company that do them? Or do they only record when sensing motion with the power drain they would have to still broadcast video to the nvr?

[tomcctv 187]

Hi you could run a fisheye outdoor camera which will make a solar power unit last longer 

 

but a budget is needed otherwise I would have to send you a list of all uk supplies who sell this type of equipment 

What part of uk are you from

[quartz 0]

22 hours ago, tomcctv said:

Hi you could run a fisheye outdoor camera which will make a solar power unit last longer 

 

but a budget is needed otherwise I would have to send you a list of all uk supplies who sell this type of equipment 

What part of uk are you from

Budget isn't important to me as this is about the protection of my dog, fair enough I don't want to pay £1,000 a camera when there is one that will do it for £250-350 or less, I am probably not happy to spend over £1,500 for a good system, but that would have been with ptz cameras that can do what i need them to with no wires, yet when I set up my first wired system it only cost me about £250 and while good in the daytime, wasn't impressed at night, my last system cost me around £850, but there are things I don't need, like a 2TB drive for the nvr, a HD monitor to plug into it separately to watch live, as cheap as they are, a mouse.
 

Where I am in the UK isn't important as such, but it is mainland UK, not one of the postal oddities that cost more.

[tomcctv 187]

27 minutes ago, quartz said:

Where I am in the UK isn't important as such, but it is mainland UK, not one of the postal oddities that cost more.

WOW     You just don’t want any help do you

 

There is a very good reason asking what part of uk. 
as there is nothing better than seeing equipment working …… which is something you don’t get to do with amazon or eBay and helps not wasting money. 
 

 

[quartz 0]

2 hours ago, tomcctv said:

WOW     You just don’t want any help do you

 

There is a very good reason asking what part of uk. 
as there is nothing better than seeing equipment working …… which is something you don’t get to do with amazon or eBay and helps not wasting money. 
 

 

I am just wary with the issues surrounding my dogs over ther last few years since one was poisoned before we had to have him put down to a sudden and fast illness where his organs were failing, probably kidney related but not related to being poisoned a few years before. Sometimes things are a lot more complex than people realise and I'm not going to paste a rough area all over the internet. I appreciate the tip, and you are right, seeing something working would help a lot but let's take it to pm which personally I would have suggested before but had a lot on, I am running out of time though.