buellwinkle 0 Posted April 5, 2013 Costco is getting deeper into the network camera game. They have a pair of Swann 1080P bullets for $349. Has anyone tried them yet? It says "State-of-the-art ‘bank quality’ security camera with video quality that has to be seen to be believed", how can you go wrong http://www.costco.com/Swann-1080p-2-Pack-NVR-IP-Bullet-Cameras.product.100039914.html Some believe this to be a Hikvision DS-2CD2032-I, which is not only 1080P, but also 3MP. I came across this spec sheet - http://www.bkgrupe.lt/uploads/docs/_darbinis3/DS-2CD2032-I%20(1).pdf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blakem 0 Posted April 5, 2013 1lux@F1.2 with 1/25 shutter is not very light sensitive right? But then I guess they never told you 30 IRE so who knows what level they were exposing for really anyways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hasinarshad 0 Posted April 5, 2013 shame we cant get that on the uk website, excellent price Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tomcctv 190 Posted April 5, 2013 shame we cant get that on the uk website, excellent price you can its a hikvision/dahua Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buellwinkle 0 Posted April 5, 2013 There's a Hikvision office near Los Angeles, just not aware if they sell their products here under their brand name. They have a booth at ISC West diagonally across from Axis and Mobotix, so I can ask them next week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MaxIcon 0 Posted April 5, 2013 6mm lens is a bit long for me, and it doesn't appear to have WDR. I'm tempted to pick up a pair, but the lack of WDR really limits them for the spots I need. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buellwinkle 0 Posted April 5, 2013 That's the Hikvision spec for a standard camera but comes with different lenses, but actually the Coscto Swann version has a wider lens as it shows a 75 degree viewing angle which according to a lens calculator, that's a 2.8mm lens. Also, the specs show it has WDR. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shockwave199 0 Posted April 5, 2013 Costco specs put it at a 4mm lens. It's good to see the cameras available separately now. The only thing they need to do now is add a choice for a dome camera without IR- but make it IR sensitive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flynreelow 0 Posted April 5, 2013 So are these the exact same cameras that come with the 8 Port NVR and 4 camera package from Costco? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EarlT 0 Posted April 5, 2013 Maybe I have not been paying attention but on the sidebar of the Swan 1080P camera I saw this.. http://www.costco.com/.product.100039927.html?cm_sp=RichRelevance-_-itempageVerticalRight-_-CategorySiloedViewCP&cm_vc=itempageVerticalRight|CategorySiloedViewCP A pair of Q-See 1080P's for $299 EDIT OOPS, now I see those are SDI.. Nothing to compare Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buellwinkle 0 Posted April 6, 2013 They do have the q-see 1080p mini dome but it's not day/night and no built in IR illuminators. I believe they are $199 each. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Biofarmer 0 Posted April 6, 2013 Someone needs to give these a try. I picked up the 2 QSEEs from Costco($300) and have returned them due to poor night vision and other firmware stuff I did not like compared to the(identical?) Dahua 2100. These Swanns come with the Costco Concierge Services which is very good customer service. The QSEEs did NOT come with the extra Concierge service. Of course the beauty of trying a camera from Costco is the 90 day full price refund for any reason, no questions asked. I tried giving a reason for returning the QSEEs and they did not want to hear it.............."oh, these have night vision too???!!!, how neat!" Sure would be nice to see a review. Am I missing something or is the HIKVISION 2CD 2032-1 not available in the US? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbp30 0 Posted April 11, 2013 Hey All, New to the forum, just getting into the network camera game...does anyone know if these work without the NVR? I am looking for something in this price range for monitoring more than recording, and am curious to try these out. I know the costco website says they do require the NVR...but curious if maybe they could be used with out it. Thanks for any information you can give, and thanks for all the info I've learned so far on this board! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firefighter 0 Posted April 12, 2013 I would Love to see these in a few different situations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buellwinkle 0 Posted April 12, 2013 Don't know who asked me, but I confirmed at ISC that the Swann cameras are manufactured by Hikvision but Hikvision is making a push to distribute cameras branded as Hikvision in the U.S.. The image quality of the cameras at the show was quite good but it's a well lit building so can't say how well they perform in low light. They are 3MP cameras but the NVR limits them to 1080P so if you use them without the NVR, you can get 3MP out of them. They claim, side by side, they have better image quality and low light performance than the Dahua bullets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flynreelow 0 Posted April 13, 2013 Don't know who asked me, but I confirmed at ISC that the Swann cameras are manufactured by Hikvision but Hikvision is making a push to distribute cameras branded as Hikvision in the U.S.. The image quality of the cameras at the show was quite good but it's a well lit building so can't say how well they perform in low light. They are 3MP cameras but the NVR limits them to 1080P so if you use them without the NVR, you can get 3MP out of them. They claim, side by side, they have better image quality and low light performance than the Dahua bullets. If we dont go the NVR route, which software out there can actually accommodate a 3mp feed. I know vitamin D for the mac cant, and i dont think blue iris can either. Any program you would recommend? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EarlT 0 Posted April 13, 2013 Don't know who asked me, but I confirmed at ISC that the Swann cameras are manufactured by Hikvision but Hikvision is making a push to distribute cameras branded as Hikvision in the U.S.. The image quality of the cameras at the show was quite good but it's a well lit building so can't say how well they perform in low light. They are 3MP cameras but the NVR limits them to 1080P so if you use them without the NVR, you can get 3MP out of them. They claim, side by side, they have better image quality and low light performance than the Dahua bullets. It would be interesting to know what version ONVIF they run. Is it 2.0 like so many low cost often re-branded offerings? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buellwinkle 0 Posted April 13, 2013 I use BI with a 3MP Dahua camera, works OK, not perfect because of stuttering issues but records in 3MP. ACTi NVR records fine with the 3 and 5MP cameras. If I remember correctly, the Hikvision rep said their higher end NVR's can do higher resolution when I asked him why 1080P when the bullets are 3MP. Didn't think about asking him about ONVIF. I only asked this of the Cricket camera folks from Canada, they said ONVIF 2.1 which has the motion detection. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EarlT 0 Posted April 13, 2013 If they are in fact Hikvision cameras there's hope it's got some support behind it. When I searched Hikvision ONVIF this link came back which surprised me. http://www.hikvision.com/en/Press-Release-details.asp?id=2205 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Q2U 0 Posted April 14, 2013 I pulled the trigger on these cameras. What the heck, it's Costco. I can return them because "I'm not satisfied with...the focal length." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
habsfan 0 Posted April 15, 2013 Has anyone confirmed if these cameras work with Blue Iris? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Q2U 0 Posted April 15, 2013 Has anyone confirmed if these cameras work with Blue Iris? I would imagine it will work with the Blue Iris "HIKVision RTSP" or the Generic RTSP H.264 option. I run Blue Iris and I'll let you know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbp30 0 Posted April 16, 2013 Just got mine today...haven't tried it with blue iris, but the generic rstp stream does indeed work, at least through VLC on my PC and ipcamviewer on my mobile. Quality seems very good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Q2U 0 Posted April 16, 2013 Just got mine today...haven't tried it with blue iris, but the generic rstp stream does indeed work, at least through VLC on my PC and ipcamviewer on my mobile. Quality seems very good. Are you getting 3MP out of the cameras? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbp30 0 Posted April 16, 2013 Just got mine today...haven't tried it with blue iris, but the generic rstp stream does indeed work, at least through VLC on my PC and ipcamviewer on my mobile. Quality seems very good. Are you getting 3MP out of the cameras? I guess I'm not really sure how to tell (sorry kind of new to this like I said earlier). VLC says RSTP is at 1920x1080 @ 4000-6000kbps. There does appear to be WDR as well that you can activate through the iVMS software from Hikvisionusa website - this is how initially configured the cameras since I don't plan on buying a DVR system. LMK how to see if its 3MP and I'd be happy to do so! PS the device ID type = MEGA_IPCAM if that means anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites