funkadelic 0 Posted July 29, 2013 I do not think it is possible, you could possibly only get into the cameras directly if you connected it directly to a poe switch.not sure if ivms was setup to recognize nvr recorders. After some more messing around, apparently you can I fiddled some more and I ended up creating an "encoding channel" group and added the cams attached to the NVR to that group. I only have 2 cams connected to the NVR to test out, and both appeared in iVMS. I was planning on mounting the NVR in my garage rack where I have my network switches/punchdown/etc. & just remotely stream/control the NVR, and it looks like I'll be able to do that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rayt 0 Posted July 29, 2013 I do not think it is possible, you could possibly only get into the cameras directly if you connected it directly to a poe switch.not sure if ivms was setup to recognize nvr recorders. After some more messing around, apparently you can I fiddled some more and I ended up creating an "encoding channel" group and added the cams attached to the NVR to that group. I only have 2 cams connected to the NVR to test out, and both appeared in iVMS. I was planning on mounting the NVR in my garage rack where I have my network switches/punchdown/etc. & just remotely stream/control the NVR, and it looks like I'll be able to do that good news galore! hah, can't wait to get my 2 lorex sets, and return my 6 swann cameras i bought 2 weeks ago. hope the dome works well, they have that black foam ring which generally works to limit the haloing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buellwinkle 0 Posted July 29, 2013 The Lorex's dome camera Good luck with those domes, I had serious IR LED light bleed issues until Hikvision changed their manufacturing on these. The new ones work great but may have caused manufacturing delays. Here's the differences between new vs. old. See how the old one covered half the LEDs and the large shape made it hard to conform to the dome's curves. Hikvision was very responsive in getting this resolved once I reported this. One reason my distributor can't get the new ones for about another week or two. They also made changes to the bullet. Also, the old design was a floating ring and the new one is fixed in place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rayt 0 Posted July 29, 2013 The Lorex's dome camera Good luck with those domes, I had serious IR LED light bleed issues until Hikvision changed their manufacturing on these. The new ones work great but may have caused manufacturing delays. Here's the differences between new vs. old. See how the old one covered half the LEDs and the large shape made it hard to conform to the dome's curves. Hikvision was very responsive in getting this resolved once I reported this. One reason my distributor can't get the new ones for about another week or two. They also made changes to the bullet. Also, the old design was a floating ring and the new one is fixed in place. wow thanks for letting us know! any pics to compare the new and old bullets? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shockwave199 0 Posted July 29, 2013 I'm actually surprised that QC could look at the one on the right with many IR covered and say yeah, that passes! The other thing to look for a ease of positioning. You get the perfect fov, put the dome back on, foam pushes against dome and it moves the camera- a vicious cycle ending up with a compramise. Not a huge deal, but a pia. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buellwinkle 0 Posted July 29, 2013 Here's the happy couple, the new bullet and dome together. Notice the bullet now has a ring on the outside of the glass, before it was just plain glass. Again, to control IR light bleed. So to those that want the latest and greatest, wait a little longer for the proverbial slow boat from China to arrive. These I got directly from Hikvision HQ. What's also cool but not readily apparent is the new domes & bullets have a round waterproof rj45 jack on the pigtail that is much smaller than the original square one. So smaller hole needs to be made and it's waterproof where the square ones were not. BTW, this is the reason I haven't done a review yet, I was waiting for them to resolve this issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeyJoey 0 Posted July 30, 2013 This how both the Lorex cameras look. buellwinkle, did you get the different sized lens on that bullet camera, greater than 4mm? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rayt 0 Posted July 30, 2013 Here's the happy couple, the new bullet and dome together. Notice the bullet now has a ring on the outside of the glass, before it was just plain glass. Again, to control IR light bleed. So to those that want the latest and greatest, wait a little longer for the proverbial slow boat from China to arrive. These I got directly from Hikvision HQ. What's also cool but not readily apparent is the new domes & bullets have a round waterproof rj45 jack on the pigtail that is much smaller than the original square one. So smaller hole needs to be made and it's waterproof where the square ones were not. BTW, this is the reason I haven't done a review yet, I was waiting for them to resolve this issue. Thanks, it appears my swann cameras all have that black ring already, hoping my lorex ones have the ring too. I ordered 2 lorex systems, one on 7/23 and one today 7/29, both are still processing, i am praying this delay is to update the domes with the new version. My swann varifocal bullets ordered today 7/29 have shipped already. Swann seems very fast with shipping! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buellwinkle 0 Posted July 30, 2013 Both are 12mm but the changes were made for all lenses. I just happened to have a need for 12mm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SB_Jim 1 Posted July 30, 2013 Buellwinkle, Thx for the great pics. I just checked two of my six bullets & they have the plastic ring on the outside of the glass - but with the older square rj45 connector. Guessing that the other 4 do as well. Maybe I happened to buy mine mid-stream in the upgrades. I believe I ordered my NVR & 4 cams around March. Still very pleased with the 2 MP daytime images, but accepting the less than stellar night time IR images. Eventually I'm looking to buy two more, one for a spare, and one for an exposed location where the better connection will be appreciated. The Vari-Focus says 30 - 90 degrees. If my existing bullets are about 4mm, what does the v-f cam spec out at in mm? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MaxIcon 0 Posted July 30, 2013 The Vari-Focus says 30 - 90 degrees. If my existing bullets are about 4mm, what does the v-f cam spec out at in mm? The Swann appears to be this camera: http://www.hikvision.com/en/us/Products_show.asp?id=7673 2.7 ~ 9mm @F1.6, angle of view 101° ~ 30.4°. They don't match the spec you mention, but this isn't uncommon. This also shows up as a 12W max camera, which is a good bit higher than many recent models. It's possible this is the max load when the motorized focus is moving, but would require testing to know for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buellwinkle 0 Posted July 30, 2013 Maxicon, don't know about that, the cameras do not look anything alike. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MaxIcon 0 Posted July 30, 2013 You're right, the Costco version looks like a mini version of the Hik linked. I don't see the smaller version on the Hik pages, but they're pretty clearly related. The Hik's got a junction box and is a bit longer. The Costco spec shows 2.8 – 12 mm, but no power consumption that I can see. Here's the Costco vari-focal: and the Hik vari-focal: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buellwinkle 0 Posted July 30, 2013 I've searched and searched and I can find nothing. Was easier last time mostly because I was at their booth at ISC West to see for myself. It may be dumbed down version of what you noted that doesn't include the extra frills like motorized zoom/focus. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rayt 0 Posted July 30, 2013 (edited) I've searched and searched and I can find nothing. Was easier last time mostly because I was at their booth at ISC West to see for myself. It may be dumbed down version of what you noted that doesn't include the extra frills like motorized zoom/focus. http://www.ezcctv.com/product/DS-2CD2632F-IS-1150.htm DS-2CD2632F-IS Edited July 30, 2013 by Guest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buellwinkle 0 Posted July 30, 2013 Good find. Doesn't even show up on Hikvision's website. At least you know it has the potential of being 3MP, alarm I/o and sd card slot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SB_Jim 1 Posted July 30, 2013 I've searched and searched and I can find nothing. Was easier last time mostly because I was at their booth at ISC West to see for myself. It may be dumbed down version of what you noted that doesn't include the extra frills like motorized zoom/focus. http://www.ezcctv.com/product/DS-2CD2632F-IS-1150.htm DS-2CD2632F-IS Looks like a nice camera & nice features. Interesting to watch these evolve in a relatively short period of time. Wish my NVR didn't "dumb-down" to 2.1 MP - but for my use it still fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shockwave199 0 Posted July 30, 2013 The deep mounting box makes the hik more attractive to me, from an install point of view. Unless that's an extra add on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buellwinkle 0 Posted July 30, 2013 If it uses the Raptor firmware, the one that's going around for the mini bullet should work as they don't distinguish by camera model, only by platform. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeyJoey 0 Posted July 30, 2013 The firmware version 5.0 manual does mention that camera model. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rayt 0 Posted August 2, 2013 Got my 6 camera lorex bundle in. BAD NEWS!! the cameras are exactly as pictured!! They do not come with the 2nd half of the water proof connectors to make the rj45 watertight!! Sunshade is plastic, the black piece up front is possibly plastic as well! (never mind this is still metal) These have the round waterproof rj45 connectors. but not the 2nd half to make them waterproof The domes are the bad ones that buellwinkle posted about! also with round rj45 connectors need to test to see if these cameras are even hikvision. On the side note, i got my swann varifocal bullet in as well, just a round rj45 connector and power, no alarm, these have non of the nice things you get in more expensive cameras like alarm etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeyJoey 0 Posted August 2, 2013 On the side note, i got my swann varifocal bullet in as well, just a round rj45 connector and power, no alarm, these have non of the nice things you get in more expensive cameras like alarm etc. Does it have a microSD card slot? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zikronix 0 Posted August 2, 2013 Got my 6 camera lorex bundle in. The domes are the bad ones that buellwinkle posted about! also with round rj45 connectors What do you mean. As in they are the old style with the old foam ring Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rayt 0 Posted August 3, 2013 On the side note, i got my swann varifocal bullet in as well, just a round rj45 connector and power, no alarm, these have non of the nice things you get in more expensive cameras like alarm etc. Does it have a microSD card slot? i can confirm a microSD slot, its there when i unscrewed the front piece to access focus / zoom Got my 6 camera lorex bundle in. The domes are the bad ones that buellwinkle posted about! also with round rj45 connectors What do you mean. As in they are the old style with the old foam ring yes old style Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zikronix 0 Posted August 3, 2013 On the side note, i got my swann varifocal bullet in as well, just a round rj45 connector and power, no alarm, these have non of the nice things you get in more expensive cameras like alarm etc. Does it have a microSD card slot? i can confirm a microSD slot, its there when i unscrewed the front piece to access focus / zoom Got my 6 camera lorex bundle in. The domes are the bad ones that buellwinkle posted about! also with round rj45 connectors What do you mean. As in they are the old style with the old foam ring yes old style I also just opened mine. I got the cameras with the black plastic...I thought some one said they wernt like that? Looks like its going back! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
